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Looking to change from He-400i to HD650 - Wise move?
« on: February 18, 2017, 05:12:09 PM »
Hi all,

So I'm working my way up to 50 posts with the aim to put these up for a trade/sale.

I'm wanting to move to something more like the HD650 and what sort of change should I expect? Would this be considered a good move or what? I prefer a slightly warmer signature that the He400i's are obviously not designed for. Perhaps even something closed.

What sort of headphones would you suggest that I trade/save for here in SA?

Thanks all!

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Re: Looking to change from He-400i to HD650 - Wise move?
« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2017, 05:11:16 PM »
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Re: Looking to change from He-400i to HD650 - Wise move?
« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2017, 07:20:54 PM »
HE-400i is a decent pair. While HD650 is a superior headphone in my book we need some more info ... what music do you listen to? What are you driving or intend driving your cans with? What do you like and dislike about the Hifiman's? What do you want to accomplish with the change of cans?
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Re: Looking to change from He-400i to HD650 - Wise move?
« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2017, 09:00:57 PM »
Yes I guess you need to be a bit more clear on the music you listen for the forum to make suggestions.

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Re: Looking to change from He-400i to HD650 - Wise move?
« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2017, 04:52:23 PM »
Thanks for the replies everyone, I listen to mostly indie acoustic/rock, rock and psych rock. Every now and then I get into some more commercial stuff. I like my Tame Impala, Vampire Weekend, Weezer, Elliot Smith, Iron & Wine, Band of Skulls, Cage the Elephant, The Shins, Beirut etc.

Does that help at all?

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Re: Looking to change from He-400i to HD650 - Wise move?
« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2017, 05:49:03 PM »
I like my Tame Impala, Vampire Weekend, Weezer, Elliot Smith, Iron & Wine, Band of Skulls, Cage the Elephant, The Shins, Beirut etc.

Sorry .. can't help ... don't recognise even one of these :)

Whereabouts are you?  There are several HD650's around ... maybe you can set up an audition with a member nearby?
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Re: Looking to change from He-400i to HD650 - Wise move?
« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2017, 05:55:23 PM »
Try Grado's. You will be surprised.

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Re: Looking to change from He-400i to HD650 - Wise move?
« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2017, 06:09:42 AM »
Sorry .. can't help ... don't recognise even one of these :)

Whereabouts are you?  There are several HD650's around ... maybe you can set up an audition with a member nearby?
I'm in PE, and if anyone would like to give my He-400i a spin or my Chord Mojo they're welcome to :)

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Re: Looking to change from He-400i to HD650 - Wise move?
« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2017, 06:11:17 AM »
Try Grado's. You will be surprised.
I actually bought my gf a pair of the 80e and they were amazing! Unfortunately she needs some cash at one point and asked me to sell them. Made sense since I was using them more than her!

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Re: Looking to change from He-400i to HD650 - Wise move?
« Reply #9 on: February 22, 2017, 09:43:02 AM »
Nothing can beat the Grado's for the type of music that you listen  :thumbs:. Except may be Stax, electrostatic head speakers. However again, this is a matter of taste and preference I guess.

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Re: Looking to change from He-400i to HD650 - Wise move?
« Reply #10 on: February 22, 2017, 11:43:35 AM »
If you are coming from Hifiman the Grado sound signature is just too coloured. I never enjoyed the RS1i again after getting the HE-500. And it's definitely not as warm as most Sennheiser headphones. Even Philips would be a much better suggestion. The Fidelio L1 I had was had a warm sound signature, the 2nd revisions ones are claimed to have more pronounced treble so it might be a better alternative to look into.

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Re: Looking to change from He-400i to HD650 - Wise move?
« Reply #11 on: February 22, 2017, 01:12:15 PM »
Well it is subjective. I prefer the PS1000e to the HD800 and T1 listening to rock and jazz. Classical, I prefer the HD800.

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Re: Looking to change from He-400i to HD650 - Wise move?
« Reply #12 on: February 22, 2017, 05:12:24 PM »
Well it is subjective. I prefer the PS1000e to the HD800 and T1 listening to rock and jazz. Classical, I prefer the HD800.

The original PS1000 was one of the weirdest headphones I've had a chance to listen to and it had a very untypical Grado sound signature compared to something like the SR325is and RS1i which has the more typical in your face Grado mids. Never mind that they were insanely heavy, but yeah, this hobby is very subjective, but I don't like headphones that veer too far north of neutral. A sepia tinted headphone makes it more like a dessert to be indulged with certain types of music. The PS500 is probably more what would fit in the budget in this case, but Grado's build quality is :cr@p: and aren't worth the money you pay for them here.
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