Oppo: any good?

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Oppo Blu-ray players seem to be very highly regarded in audio-video forums in the USA. I scanned through my old AVSA magazines and found a glowing review of the Oppo 83. How does Oppo BD players compare to the more well-known brands such as Sony, Marantz, Cambridge Audio, NAD, etc.? Does anyone on the forum own an Oppo?
 

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There's at least one example of an esoteric brand that re-badged that Oppo. There are a few members here that have one, but you may be better off importing one than trying to get it locally.
 

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They are very very good, as far as I know Denon uses a re-badged oppo Blu-ray themselves.

I'd kill for their region free Blu-ray player!
 

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Got the BDP-80. Very nice and stable. Nothing to complain about. Would have loved the BDP-83 but was just to expensive at that stage.
 

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I emailed them yesterday:
Asking them about their warranty if I bougfht direct from their website, here's thier response:

You will receive a the same one year parts and labor warranty, but in the event that the player needs to be repaired, you will be responsible for the shipping of the player back to us at your expense.

Best Regards,

Customer Service
OPPO Digital, Inc.
2629B Terminal Blvd.
Mountain View, CA 94043
[email protected]
Tel: 650-961-1118
Fax: 650-961-1119
 

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ViVoAudio said:
I emailed them yesterday: Asking them about their warranty if I bougfht direct from their website, here's thier response:
You will receive a the same one year parts and labor warranty, but in the event that the player needs to be repaired, you will be responsible for the shipping of the player back to us at your expense.

Thanks, that's very useful information. I am interested in the Oppo BDP-95EU. Audio Tweak, the SA importers, quoted me R15k for this universal player, but it is available in the USA for $999. At an exchange rate of $1=R7, that is about R7k. I am not sure about the postage and other costs, but surely it would be much less than R8K? It seems to make financial sense to import the BDP-95EU rather than source it locally. Moreover, it can switch between 110V and 220V. So, no need for transformers, etc. Any advice from forum members, who have imported hifi equipment, would be greatly appreciated.
 

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Oppo $999 = 7,000
Shippin $200 = 1,400
VAT and Duties = 7,000*0.10 + 7,000*0.14 = 1,680

Total you are looking at will be about R 10k
 

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ara That's sounds about right except that I think the shipping might even cheaper than that.
 

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ara said:
Oppo $999 = 7,000
Shippin $200 = 1,400
VAT and Duties = 7,000*0.10 + 7,000*0.14 = 1,680

Total you are looking at will be about R 10k

Thanks, ara. That means a saving of R5k. In other words, Audio Tweak's mark-up is 50%! Is that not excessive?
 

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ViVoAudio said:
ara That's sounds about right except that I think the shipping might even cheaper than that.

Probably.... just depends on who Oppo use and what shipping they offer (economoy option or only speedy option  ;D).
 

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Audio Bug said:
Thanks, ara. That means a saving of R5k. In other words, Audio Tweak's mark-up is 50%! Is that not excessive?

I would say 30-40% would probably be a more acceptable markup because they have to then honour the warranty, etc. The problem I have is that say their shipping only cost about $100 (must be cheaper) plus they probably get the unit at Oppo for $899 (if not cheaper) so that brings the landed cost probably more down to but their shipping should probably cost them less. They will probably be closer to R 8,500.00 so that is a 75% markup. Now the people that do imports and then support locally will give all sorts of reasons why they can justify these mark-ups. One of the main "selling" points is that they have to have technicians, train them and keep some parts and the labour to fix it. So they sell 5 unit at 6,500 profit for R32,500 profit or do you sell 25 units at R 3,500 profit R 87,500. I guess for me it is a no brainer. Any case that is just my view. I for one will never buy an Oppo locally (unless it is secondhand  ;D). I'll rather take that R 5,000 you are going to save, put it in an unit trust and then buy a new updated version if the first one breaks or pay one of the local geniuses to fix it. Plus with the R 5,000 you can probably send it back to them at least twice and have some change left.
 

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ViVoAudio said:
I emailed them yesterday:
Asking them about their warranty if I bougfht direct from their website, here's thier response:

You will receive a the same one year parts and labor warranty, but in the event that the player needs to be repaired, you will be responsible for the shipping of the player back to us at your expense.

Best Regards,

Customer Service
OPPO Digital, Inc.
2629B Terminal Blvd.
Mountain View, CA 94043
[email protected]
Tel: 650-961-1118
Fax: 650-961-1119

Audio Bug said:
Thanks, ara. That means a saving of R5k. In other words, Audio Tweak's mark-up is 50%! Is that not excessive?

Makes you wonder why Oppo didn't make any mention of the local importer
 

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Audio Bug said:
Audio Tweak's mark-up is 50%! Is that not excessive?

Also remember that the local dealer will not get it at the $999 you are looking at but at a dealer discount.  So the margin is even higher.
 

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The local dealer has been asked about his high markups so often that he's quite defensive, nearly combative about it - even had a disclaimer on his website. Dunno why he has high overheads as he seems to operate from a small flat in the affordable part of CT.
 

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waterhond said:
The local dealer has been asked about his high markups so often that he's quite defensive, nearly combative about it - even had a disclaimer on his website. Dunno why he has high overheads as he seems to operate from a small flat in the affordable part of CT.

Mervin said:
Also remember that the local dealer will not get it at the $999 you are looking at but at a dealer discount.  So the margin is even higher.

There is of course the old story of dealers/importers carrying stock, but how often do you have to wait for a 'new' shipment/stock to arrive? So, the dealer is basically doing what you can do for yourself at a very 'small' fee!
 

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For the record, the OPPO-93EU goes for ?499 in the UK, which includes 20% VAT. if you are able have one shipped from there and save yourself the VAT it would be even cheaper.

Also, from what i understand, the BluRay zone is still not multizone, which would be a problem if you buy one in the US, no?
 

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mickyc said:
Also, from what i understand, the BluRay zone is still not multizone, which would be a problem if you buy one in the US, no?

Good point, mickyc! I should find out about that.
 
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