Newish to Headphones this is my Journey

Frank007301

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Hi all

I am newish to headphones. I have had a few headphones over the years but that was all as a means to an end. Using them on a plane when you could still travel safely, using them for gaming etc.

I started off a few years ago with some on ear B&W P3?s. That was my introduction to headphones. I was very happy with them, I actually met the CEO of Bowers & Wilkins Joe Atkins while wearing them. He came up to me at the BA first class lounge in Heathrow. He came up to me and told me it was his company. I was skeptical until he gave me his business card. He is a very nice guy.

Anyway, after that, I thought the P3?s were great so get something new and for travel I got B&W PX. It was great for air travel but did not sound great.

So I upgraded sooner than what I would have liked. I decided to get a pair of Beyerdynamics DT880 Pro 250ohm. I then found out that headphone amps are a thing because I have this new toy and it is not loud enough. Sooo down another rabbit hole I go.

So after speaking to a friend once again he recommended something that I should look at and ended up getting a Fiio K5 Pro. All of a sudden I was like where did I miss this before. Oh no? where could this go and how much is this going to cost me? While I was looking at the Beyerdynamics I also got recommendations for some Sennheiser HD560?s. Never got around to actually going for a listen. I used these DT880?s mostly for gaming and then listening to some music. For gaming they are awesome. Heavier bass than what I was used to on the P3?s but not too much. A year  has moved on and it was upgrade time again.

This time I was looking at DT1990 and HD660S. It was so difficult to find to find a pair of DT1990?s to listen too. The HD660S were almost on my doorstep at E-piphany. Wow. It was really really good. I don?t know if it was just their song choices but I was sold. Bought the demo pair right way as they did not have another pair in stock. Taking it home and connecting it to my system and more or less the same results as in the shop. Maybe slightly better than the shops but it is probably just because I was in my spot. Only one small issue. I heard a crackle sound in the right ear after a while of listening. Thought that it was maybe the cable or the connection between the cup and the cable. It wasn?t that. Called the guys at the shop and Brent said no problem bring them in let?s test them I have ordered a new pair for you just in case. 10min later I was there and Andre testes them and came to the same conclusion. Time to send it back to Sennheiser. Very sad that I paid all those bucks and I don?t have anything but no need to worry says Brent, here take mine until yours arrive. It being Friday I was very happy I could actually get to play with the cans over the weekend.

So all the testing started between the DT880?s and the HD660s. I thought that there would be a difference but the difference in detail was almost as if there was a piece of cotton wool in my ears with the DT880?s. After hearing that there was such a big difference it made me change my mind about listening to more expensive headphones. I don?t know if I want to hear that difference and not being able to listen to these HD660s the same way again.

So, that is the story up until this point. I would like to tweak my listening a bit more. Maybe better cables, new amp, new DAC, etc. what is my next move here?


P.S. I have added some sound panels around my listening position in front of my PC to get some absorbing in the room for streaming. Don?t know if that has any impact on the headphones though. Just putting as much information as possible on the thread.


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"...I thought that there would be a difference but the difference in detail was almost as if there was a piece of cotton wool in my ears with the DT880?s."

Welcome to critical listening ...  :point:

Did you mention what you using to drive your headphones and your current source  ?
 

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muddda said:
"...I thought that there would be a difference but the difference in detail was almost as if there was a piece of cotton wool in my ears with the DT880?s."

Welcome to critical listening ...  :point:

Did you mention what you using to drive your headphones and your current source  ?
I am still using the Fiio K5 Pro from a PC using Tidal.


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That filo looks pretty impressive ...

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If you want to experience something different try tubes ... you can still use the k5 as a dac ...

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https://www.schiit.com/products/valhalla-1

or

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https://www.schiit.com/products/vali-3

ps once you go to tubes ... hard to go back ...

https://www.gearpatrol.com/tech/audio/a37050346/tube-amp-headphones-why-to-buy/

https://www.wearableinear.com/tube-amps-vs-solid-state-headphone-amplifiers/






 

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Welcome to the rabbit hole. I'd say sorry for your wallet, but it seems you're keeping it on quite a tight leash already and not going overboard with your choices. The Senns are a great introduction to higher end head-fi and will serve you well for years to come. Just be warned this rabbit hole runs very, very deep, and if you're not careful, you'll soon be buying cables more expensive than your headphones. If you love the sound of the 660s, next step is probably a good amp/DAC. That all depends on your budget, so let us know what you're willing to spend and we can suggest some viable options.

Most of all, enjoy the journey and the music. And if you're not thinking of spending big money on this project, my advice is simple: enjoy what you have and don't listen to gear you can't afford to buy. Because it's better not to know what you don't know.
 

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My first thought is a better amp.

I have the HD650's running from an STX soundcard into a Topping A90 and all I can say is wow! Other than that you have quite a few options: the Bottlehead Crack, the Schitts, Woo Audio and Little Dot. My advice is to try as many different combinations, find one you like and lurk the forums here or carbonite to get one used.

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Bring the Sennheisers over and come and listen to them on the iFi Zen DAC.
You can also demo the Audeze LCD2Fazors and LCD2Classic Closed Backs. I also have a set of LCD5 on their way.
 

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Drifter said:
Bring the Sennheisers over and come and listen to them on the iFi Zen DAC.
You can also demo the Audeze LCD2Fazors and LCD2Classic Closed Backs. I also have a set of LCD5 on their way.

[member=14069]Frank007301[/member] Don't go, don't go! You are going to go away very, very disappointed! :angel: :giggle:

Why? The RABBIT HOLE - there's no escaping it after that listening experience, Forgetaboutit!

Sorry Heine  :cleansound: :giggle:[member=13448]Drifter[/member]
 

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Gnarls said:
My first thought is a better amp.

That Fiio is actually a pretty decent amp, the internal DAC really lets it down IME; take it to Drifters and feed the Zen into it.
 

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Doge said:
That Fiio is actually a pretty decent amp, the internal DAC really lets it down IME; take it to Drifters and feed the Zen into it.
And DO NOT listen to the other headphones, especially not the LCD-5.
 

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gLer said:
And DO NOT listen to the other headphones, especially not the LCD-5.
This is all too scary. That is what I told Drifter too. So I have ordered an ifi Zen DAC V2 from Francois at Audio Exchange. I should receive it before the weekend. I will give feedback soon.


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Just a quick question. I think I want to sell my B&W PX. What do you think I can ask for them? I have new ear pads for them too.
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Frank007301 said:
Just a quick question. I think I want to sell my B&W PX. What do you think I can ask for them? I have new ear pads for them too.
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If anyone is interested in them please let me know.


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