Author Topic: Green 3TB drives - timeline to debut?  (Read 5599 times)

Offline Rotten Johnny

Green 3TB drives - timeline to debut?
« on: April 15, 2011, 09:17:38 AM »
Folks, any idea when green 3TB drives are likely to make an appearance?  If I rush out now and buy 5x 2TB green it's going to cost me around R4k.  Two things - I'd rather buy 3TB from the getgo & buying 2TB with 3TB around the corner (?) means I'll be paying way too much for the 2TB variety.

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Re: Green 3TB drives - timeline to debut?
« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2011, 09:22:47 AM »
I'd be very hesitant to adopt the latest and greatest when it comes to storage. Our business is based on very storage hungry data and we are very early adopters of the biggest drives available. Without fail, the first drives of a generation always have quirks and issues that is solved 3 months down the line.

So, get the 2TB drives now as you should probably wait a few months for any potential issues on 3TB drives to be sorted.
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Offline PearlJam

Re: Green 3TB drives - timeline to debut?
« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2011, 10:38:16 AM »
I am using 2 of them in my NAS currently....so far no issues.

Offline Andrew

Re: Green 3TB drives - timeline to debut?
« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2011, 10:58:30 AM »
Not to ask a Noob question, but I am seeing reference to 'green' and 'black' drives...what is the difference?
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Offline dotVIBE

Re: Green 3TB drives - timeline to debut?
« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2011, 11:04:57 AM »
Green are mostly used as storage drives. They use less power, but have have slower spin up times and read/write speeds. Black drives have dual processors and good performance. then you get blue drives in the middle.
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Offline Andrew

Re: Green 3TB drives - timeline to debut?
« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2011, 11:09:59 AM »
Green are mostly used as storage drives. They use less power, but have have slower spin up times and read/write speeds. Black drives have dual processors and good performance. then you get blue drives in the middle.

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Offline ara

Re: Green 3TB drives - timeline to debut?
« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2011, 11:24:56 AM »
plus don't use green drives in raid as it causes LLC problems

Offline neilh

Re: Green 3TB drives - timeline to debut?
« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2011, 11:51:05 AM »
LLC problems?

I'm also thinking of the Green route for my NAS project. You say nay?

Offline ara

Re: Green 3TB drives - timeline to debut?
« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2011, 12:25:51 PM »
Not nay. Just disable the head parking as per my FreeNAS guide I'm busy with. What happens is to "make the drives green" the head parks it self after 8 seconds. Then when data is accessed the head "lifts" again then "parks" itself again. Now the life cycle of this is fairly large. Typically use of these drives is single desktop drive that you will access every now and then so no problem at all. Now what happens in a raid scenarios is that irrespective of what you use (even the smallest tiniest of file) will make all of the drives to constantly load and unload, etc. This puts stain on the drive that can cause failures. This also has an indirect impact on TLER (Time-limited error recovery) problems. By disabling this your drive becomes less green but you can also set it to 300 seconds instead of 8 seconds. Seagates have less of a problem but I prefer to use WD green drives because I can actually control it. That way you won't have this problem.

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Re: Green 3TB drives - timeline to debut?
« Reply #10 on: April 15, 2011, 01:45:00 PM »
Dunno how I missed this...

Anyway, at least on the cost issue;
my current cost price on Seagate "Barracuda Green" S2000S6G64
(2Tb - 5900rpm - SATA6g - 64Mb cache - 3yr warranty) drives is R730.

If you need any, shout. I have 2 on order for Monday already, and it usually takes 24hr (business days) from order to delivery.
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Re: Green 3TB drives - timeline to debut?
« Reply #11 on: April 15, 2011, 04:07:15 PM »
Dunno how I missed this...

Anyway, at least on the cost issue;
my current cost price on Seagate "Barracuda Green" S2000S6G64
(2Tb - 5900rpm - SATA6g - 64Mb cache - 3yr warranty) drives is R730.

If you need any, shout. I have 2 on order for Monday already, and it usually takes 24hr (business days) from order to delivery.
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Re: Green 3TB drives - timeline to debut?
« Reply #12 on: April 15, 2011, 04:20:28 PM »
Inc or ex vat?
It's illegal to price anything for retail excl. :) So, yes, inclusive.
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Offline Rotten Johnny

Re: Green 3TB drives - timeline to debut?
« Reply #13 on: April 15, 2011, 05:24:12 PM »
^^^
So long as they're backwards compatible I'll take 5 if you can get them Monday?
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Offline ara

Re: Green 3TB drives - timeline to debut?
« Reply #14 on: April 15, 2011, 06:00:42 PM »
^^^
So long as they're backwards compatible I'll take 5 if you can get them Monday?

Sata6G is backwards compatible.