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Title: Best router for 1gbps internet.
Post by: Frank007301 on July 24, 2019, 10:03:21 AM
Hi all

I was wondering what the best router would be for a 1gbps internet line. I currently have 2x Apple Airport Extreme's. They work well but i am wondering if i can do better. I have used an Asus AC87U before and liked it a lot but i was using that as the router and then the AirPorts for the wifi. I did not like this setup and just used the AirPorts. 
Title: Best router for 1gbps internet.
Post by: tab.deboer on July 24, 2019, 09:42:00 PM
Depends on how much you want to spend.
I'd suggest looking at Ubiquiti, especially their enterprise range, Unifi. Pair it with a "USG" (Unifi Security Gateway) for routing and firewalling. And potentially a Unifi PoE switch, and of course some dual band AP's. I recommende the AC Lite or LR.

Otherwise something like the Ubiquiti Amplifi series. Add Mesh nodes as you encounter deadspots.

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Title: Re: Best router for 1gbps internet.
Post by: MeTsU on July 24, 2019, 11:05:47 PM
I really like Ubiquiti's products.  Our setup at home (for reference on coverage - an old, thick walled, single story, 400m2 house) is:

* USG - Handles the routing & firewalling
* US-8-60W - An 8 port switch with 4 ports that offer POE
* UAP-AC-Lite - 3 of these units provide full coverage at home.

I'm hosting my Unifi Controller in a Google Cloud environment.

Cost wise, I can't recall exactly, but somewhere in the region of R6500. 

We are unfortunately limited to 100Mb fibre (lucky you for having 1Gb), but this setup has served us well in all of our streaming and other needs.
Title: Re: Best router for 1gbps internet.
Post by: Dolby on July 26, 2019, 10:36:17 PM
I read the question as router (ie before WiFi)?

If so, anything with a dedicated 1Gbit dedicated WAN. Maybe the Zyxel VMG3625?

Otherwise, the others answered ...  a mesh is a decent solution :) The standard reply is Ubiquity but there's a product called AirTies which is as good or better.  Unfortunately, it doesn't have the brand name so no one looks at it
Title: Re: Best router for 1gbps internet.
Post by: MeTsU on July 27, 2019, 12:42:57 AM
The Ubiquiti USG is a router.

Before I got the USG, we had a TP Link Archer D7.  As long as your choice of router has a WAN/EWAN port and the switch component of the unit is 1Gb, you're sorted.

I personally am not too fond of the Zyxel units - to each his own though.
Title: Re: Best router for 1gbps internet.
Post by: Juggy on July 27, 2019, 07:58:13 AM
Just remember that if you go for the USG and want IPS enabled along with a 1gbps connection you'll need one of the beefier models

Warning: Enabling IDS/IPS will affect the device maximum throughput. USG: 85 Mbps, USG-Pro: 250 Mbps, USG-XG-8: 1 Gbps.
Title: Re: Best router for 1gbps internet.
Post by: Dolby on July 27, 2019, 04:22:17 PM
I personally am not too fond of the Zyxel units - to each his own though

Yea I recommended because of cost - I think it alone is half the price of the USG, let alone any of the other ad ons. It also works for most people, but your route may be best if you have a larger house and your budget multiples bigger :)
Title: Re: Best router for 1gbps internet.
Post by: scrarfussi on July 29, 2019, 08:17:24 PM
Mikrotik For me  I prefer them to the Ubiquiti  Products
Title: Re: Best router for 1gbps internet.
Post by: Frank007301 on August 06, 2019, 12:36:07 PM
Hi

Thank you for all the advice. After some testing i am happy with the Apple Airport Extremes. I think i am going to wait for 802.11AX or WiFi 6. Asus have some routers out at the moment but they are about R8-10k.

I am seriously looking at the Ubiquiti stuff though. Will wait for the WiFi 6 stuff though. Will upgrade to a 10gbps network at the same time.
Title: Re: Best router for 1gbps internet.
Post by: Frank007301 on August 06, 2019, 12:40:45 PM
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Title: Re: Best router for 1gbps internet.
Post by: GoodEnoughGear on August 06, 2019, 02:34:05 PM
Sweet mercy!
Title: Re: Best router for 1gbps internet.
Post by: Juggy on August 07, 2019, 07:42:33 AM
Cheese and crackers that is a fast connection. You building a datacenter in your garage?
Title: Re: Best router for 1gbps internet.
Post by: WGS on August 07, 2019, 09:14:23 AM
That could be the 1gig lite package that many providers are doing, been out for a while now but with restrictions
if i recall correctly, 1gbs is for local sites, international is limited to 100/100....but it could have changed now
Title: Re: Best router for 1gbps internet.
Post by: Frank007301 on August 07, 2019, 09:47:52 AM
I dont know about the 1gbps lite package. It might be limited but not to 100/100.

(https://www.speedtest.net/result/8480972421.png)
Title: Re: Best router for 1gbps internet.
Post by: WGS on August 07, 2019, 09:57:28 AM
Thats awesome speeds... :2thumbs:

The 1gbps lite package from Cool Ideas below

https://shop.vumatel.co.za/package/4kBywL6wU (https://shop.vumatel.co.za/package/4kBywL6wU)
Title: Re: Best router for 1gbps internet.
Post by: Juggy on August 08, 2019, 12:39:20 PM
Hi

Thank you for all the advice. After some testing i am happy with the Apple Airport Extremes. I think i am going to wait for 802.11AX or WiFi 6. Asus have some routers out at the moment but they are about R8-10k.

I am seriously looking at the Ubiquiti stuff though. Will wait for the WiFi 6 stuff though. Will upgrade to a 10gbps network at the same time.

For ease of use and household coverage the Amplifi stuff by Ubiquiti is very nice
Title: Re: Best router for 1gbps internet.
Post by: Juggy on August 08, 2019, 02:38:24 PM
Hi

Thank you for all the advice. After some testing i am happy with the Apple Airport Extremes. I think i am going to wait for 802.11AX or WiFi 6. Asus have some routers out at the moment but they are about R8-10k.

I am seriously looking at the Ubiquiti stuff though. Will wait for the WiFi 6 stuff though. Will upgrade to a 10gbps network at the same time.

Forgot to mention, if you want Ubiquiti I can assist with trade prices. The offer is open to anyone on this forum
Title: Re: Best router for 1gbps internet.
Post by: Frank007301 on August 08, 2019, 02:41:23 PM
Ah cool. Thanks for the offer.

Can you get these yet?
https://amplifi.com/gamers-edition/ (https://amplifi.com/gamers-edition/)
Title: Re: Best router for 1gbps internet.
Post by: Juggy on August 08, 2019, 02:44:05 PM
Ah cool. Thanks for the offer.

Can you get these yet?
https://amplifi.com/gamers-edition/ (https://amplifi.com/gamers-edition/)

Unfortunately not, I don't think anyone brings those in to SA. I may be wrong though
Title: Re: Best router for 1gbps internet.
Post by: Frank007301 on August 08, 2019, 03:02:29 PM
What is the price of these please? And what would you rather recommend?

https://amplifi.com/explore.html (https://amplifi.com/explore.html)

https://amplifi.com/instant/ (https://amplifi.com/instant/)

Title: Re: Best router for 1gbps internet.
Post by: Juggy on August 08, 2019, 03:17:09 PM
What is the price of these please? And what would you rather recommend?

https://amplifi.com/explore.html (https://amplifi.com/explore.html)

https://amplifi.com/instant/ (https://amplifi.com/instant/)

You can check here, I see they will be getting the Gamers Edition soon. Must be a new addition to their site

https://scoop.co.za/catalogsearch/result/?q=Amplifi

I get the dealer rates, you still need to at VAT
Title: Re: Best router for 1gbps internet.
Post by: RaWKiS_CT on August 10, 2019, 07:37:08 AM
For ease of use and household coverage the Amplifi stuff by Ubiquiti is very nice

Completely agree. I got a amplifi hd a few weeks back and wont look back. Super easy to use, installation was literally minutes and my wifi has never been as stable and consistent. Im not even using the mesh points.
Title: Re: Best router for 1gbps internet.
Post by: Frank007301 on August 23, 2019, 08:34:19 AM
You can check here, I see they will be getting the Gamers Edition soon. Must be a new addition to their site

https://scoop.co.za/catalogsearch/result/?q=Amplifi

I get the dealer rates, you still need to at VAT
Hi Juggy

How do I go about ordering from you?


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Title: Re: Best router for 1gbps internet.
Post by: Frank007301 on September 05, 2019, 07:29:36 PM
Completely agree. I got a amplifi hd a few weeks back and wont look back. Super easy to use, installation was literally minutes and my wifi has never been as stable and consistent. Im not even using the mesh points.

I installed an AMPLIFI for a friend of mine. Works very well. So well in fact that I bought one for myself too. The problem that I have is that it limits me to 800mbps on Ethernet, on my AirPort Extreme I got 950mbps and sometime the full 1000mbps depending on the Speedtest.net server. So if you have a 1gbps line it might hamper it.


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Title: Re: Best router for 1gbps internet.
Post by: tab.deboer on September 06, 2019, 07:34:34 PM
I installed an AMPLIFI for a friend of mine. Works very well. So well in fact that I bought one for myself too. The problem that I have is that it limits me to 800mbps on Ethernet, on my AirPort Extreme I got 950mbps and sometime the full 1000mbps depending on the Speedtest.net server. So if you have a 1gbps line it might hamper it.


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What cable are you using between the fibre termination and Amplifi Router? Cat6?



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Title: Re: Best router for 1gbps internet.
Post by: Frank007301 on September 06, 2019, 07:35:58 PM
Cat6


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Title: Re: Best router for 1gbps internet.
Post by: Frank007301 on September 06, 2019, 09:03:33 PM
I used many different types of ethernet but still the same speed.
Title: Re: Best router for 1gbps internet.
Post by: RaWKiS_CT on September 14, 2019, 03:58:26 AM
I installed an AMPLIFI for a friend of mine. Works very well. So well in fact that I bought one for myself too. The problem that I have is that it limits me to 800mbps on Ethernet, on my AirPort Extreme I got 950mbps and sometime the full 1000mbps depending on the Speedtest.net server. So if you have a 1gbps line it might hamper it.


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Did you get the HD or Instant? I have seen this issue on a few forums with the Instant and the resolution was to turn on hardware NAT in the options to get full throughput
Title: Re: Best router for 1gbps internet.
Post by: Frank007301 on October 01, 2019, 08:07:29 AM
Did you get the HD or Instant? I have seen this issue on a few forums with the Instant and the resolution was to turn on hardware NAT in the options to get full throughput

I got the Amplifi HD now and i get about 930-950mbps internet connection now.
Title: Re: Best router for 1gbps internet.
Post by: Frank007301 on October 01, 2019, 09:42:53 AM
(https://www.speedtest.net/result/d/2e4a4833-52d9-410d-8f03-672cc992e816.png) (https://www.speedtest.net/result/d/2e4a4833-52d9-410d-8f03-672cc992e816)

(https://www.speedtest.net/result/d/482bfb2b-630e-432a-91a5-f5ca5c010f93.png) (https://www.speedtest.net/result/d/482bfb2b-630e-432a-91a5-f5ca5c010f93)
Title: Re: Best router for 1gbps internet.
Post by: Frank007301 on October 03, 2019, 09:06:28 AM
I have been doing a lot of research on the Ubiquiti Unifi products. I will probably be buying the following early next year after testing the HD for 3-4 months.

This is the stuff i plan on getting as a start:

- Ubiquiti UniFi Cloud Key G2+
- Ubiquiti Unifi Security Gateway Router + Firewall
- Ubiquiti 8 Port Gigabit 4x802.3af PoE 60W Switch
- Ubiquiti UniFi Dual Band AC Long Range AP

I love the fact that it is modular and that if you need to upgrade something you dont need to upgrade the whole system.
Title: Re: Best router for 1gbps internet.
Post by: Juggy on October 07, 2019, 02:18:03 PM
I have been doing a lot of research on the Ubiquiti Unifi products. I will probably be buying the following early next year after testing the HD for 3-4 months.

This is the stuff i plan on getting as a start:

- Ubiquiti UniFi Cloud Key G2+
- Ubiquiti Unifi Security Gateway Router + Firewall
- Ubiquiti 8 Port Gigabit 4x802.3af PoE 60W Switch
- Ubiquiti UniFi Dual Band AC Long Range AP

I love the fact that it is modular and that if you need to upgrade something you dont need to upgrade the whole system.

That is almost exactly what I have in my house in Cape Town, I have the 16 port rackmount PoE switch and the USG Pro. A great setup and very, very robust. I also have 4 G3 Flex cameras as well.
Title: Re: Best router for 1gbps internet.
Post by: d0dja on October 07, 2019, 02:41:58 PM
Curious what the use case is for gigabit internet connections for home use...?

Title: Re: Best router for 1gbps internet.
Post by: Frank007301 on October 07, 2019, 03:38:20 PM
That is almost exactly what I have in my house in Cape Town, I have the 16 port rackmount PoE switch and the USG Pro. A great setup and very, very robust. I also have 4 G3 Flex cameras as well.

Very cool. Do you know if the router will be able to manage 1gbps line?


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Title: Re: Best router for 1gbps internet.
Post by: Frank007301 on October 07, 2019, 03:40:43 PM
Curious what the use case is for gigabit internet connections for home use...?

Downloading the internet for off line use. Lol. I kid. I like having a fast line for when I do need to download something. Downloading games and updates in 5min is also great. I am also paying the same for this line as I would a 200mbps line so why not?


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Title: Re: Best router for 1gbps internet.
Post by: Juggy on October 07, 2019, 05:06:56 PM
Very cool. Do you know if the router will be able to manage 1gbps line?


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I haven't had a link that fast yet, still on 50/50 as the house is rented out on AirBNB so high speed not necessary however I have seen multiple articles with people stating they get >900mbps even with the smaller USG.

You must note one thing though

UniFi's Intrusion Prevention System will protect your network from attacks and malicious activity. It will block and shut down connections that could compromise your security.

Warning: Enabling Threat Management will affect the UniFi Security Gateway 4P maximum throughput (250 Mbps).

Warning: Enabling Threat Management will disable hardware offload.
Title: Re: Best router for 1gbps internet.
Post by: Frank007301 on October 16, 2019, 10:57:55 AM
So i got the Ubiquiti Unifi Security Gateway Router + Firewall and the Ubiquiti UniFi Dual Band AC Long Range AP. This is really an awesome system if you like going into the guts of your network easily. I did not get the cloud key yet but i am using the controller on my server that is always on anyway. I dont know if i am going to get the cloud key anymore but i might do much later. I am using a dlink 16 port switch with a few smaller switches that i am planning to change to Unifi 24 port switch at a later stage. I highly recommend Ubiquiti.

For those that want all the awesomeness of Ubiquiti but easier setup and basically plug and play the Amplifi HD is awesome. Massive wifi and awesome app. Almost sad to let mine go.

On a side note, i do get the full 1gbps speeds through the USG.