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Title: Names that arenít used anymore
Post by: chrisflex on April 20, 2019, 10:23:31 AM
Names like

Doris
Myrtle
Doreen
Percival
Mavis
Gertrude
Maureen

I am guessing they arenít considered Ďhipí
Title: Re: Names that arenít used anymore
Post by: Trompie67 on April 20, 2019, 10:59:22 AM
Prudence
Peggy
Gillian
Dorothy
Beatrice
Eileen
Patricia
Margaret
Richard
Christian
James


^^That's just in my immediate family!
Title: Re: Names that arenít used anymore
Post by: Juggy on April 20, 2019, 12:30:00 PM
My mom has the strangest name, I have never come across another.

Aroon
Title: Re: Names that arenít used anymore
Post by: Juggy on April 20, 2019, 12:31:01 PM
Names like

Doris
Myrtle
Doreen
Percival
Mavis
Gertrude
Maureen

I am guessing they arenít considered Ďhipí

Isn't Doris generally short for Dorothy or Dorothea?

Title: Re: Names that arenít used anymore
Post by: Shonver on April 20, 2019, 01:16:24 PM
An Indian classmate of mine had (has?) this name

My mom has the strangest name, I have never come across another.

Aroon
Title: Re: Names that arenít used anymore
Post by: Katji on April 20, 2019, 01:56:29 PM
It's just an odd spelling of Arun, a very common name.   (Transliteration of the 'u' sound (as in ****klap) was typically done as 'oo' until sometime later 1900s, until the transliteration became more standardised.)
Title: Re: Names that arenít used anymore
Post by: Katji on April 20, 2019, 02:02:28 PM
Some of those [OP] names were commonly used in SA until the last generation or so. Went out of fashion among British after 1950 or so.
Title: Re: Names that arenít used anymore
Post by: Juggy on April 20, 2019, 05:56:03 PM
An Indian classmate of mine had (has?) this name

Very interesting Shonver, she is a white woman born in the Eastern Cape in the 1930's. Surname Downey

The name may be common in other cultures but I haven't come across it before.
Title: Re: Names that arenít used anymore
Post by: pwatts on April 20, 2019, 07:33:05 PM
Names tend to follow celebrities. Maria was all but out and then Sharopova came and reignited the trend.
Title: Re: Names that arenít used anymore
Post by: El Sid on April 20, 2019, 10:06:14 PM
Names like

Doris
Myrtle
Doreen
Percival
Mavis
Gertrude
Maureen

I am guessing they arenít considered Ďhipí

My gran was Gladys - much in the same vein
Title: Re: Names that arenít used anymore
Post by: Katji on April 21, 2019, 10:11:09 AM
Horace.  My father was Horace Eric, known as Eric.
Title: Re: Names that arenít used anymore
Post by: chrisflex on April 21, 2019, 10:23:00 AM
Lewis
Beryl
Hilda
Title: Re: Names that arenít used anymore
Post by: Shonver on April 21, 2019, 11:55:13 AM
Muriel
Josephine
Mildred
Johanna
Shirley
Maud
Agatha
Agnes
Arthur
Magdalene
Bartholomew
Salome
Anastasia
Archibald
Title: Re: Names that arenít used anymore
Post by: The Godfather on April 21, 2019, 07:37:15 PM
Morag
Title: Re: Names that arenít used anymore
Post by: HB on April 22, 2019, 07:53:50 AM
^^ And with good reason.
Title: Re: Names that arenít used anymore
Post by: Juggy on April 22, 2019, 08:14:54 AM
^^ And with good reason.

Hahaha, my sister in law name. We don't get on so I agree :P
Title: Re: Names that arenít used anymore
Post by: marcochezzi on April 23, 2019, 05:20:08 PM
Brumilda...
Title: Re: Names that arenít used anymore
Post by: BWS on April 23, 2019, 10:34:25 PM
Twit
****
Dick
Engelbert
Eric
Putz
Title: Re: Names that arenít used anymore
Post by: HB on April 23, 2019, 11:31:48 PM
^^FFS. why don't you guys get a room and deck it out like men as apposed to posting juvenile one liners and snide comments.



Title: Re: Names that arenít used anymore
Post by: BWS on April 24, 2019, 07:02:42 AM
^^ Because it's fun and you take life way too seriously
Title: Re: Names that arenít used anymore
Post by: Katji on April 24, 2019, 10:02:08 AM
One liners? Thread is mostly one-worders. 


 :coffee:


Dorcas
Title: Re: Names that arenít used anymore
Post by: chrisflex on April 24, 2019, 12:18:28 PM
Molly
Joanna
Mildred
Title: Re: Names that arenít used anymore
Post by: Ju_dy@RT on April 24, 2019, 01:47:31 PM
Judy  :P
Title: Re: Names that arenít used anymore
Post by: juventino on April 24, 2019, 03:18:47 PM
Bernard
Clarence
Meryl
Merle
Title: Re: Names that arenít used anymore
Post by: Drifter on April 24, 2019, 03:44:39 PM
Some Afrikaans names that were popular around my generation's birth years and those of the generation before (I don't hear these names often in the current generation, at least at my son's school - looks like family names are on their way out, replaced by modern Americanised names like Keanu and Paris   :facepalm: ):

Eufesia
Marthinus
Saartjie
Matthys
Trudie
Emmerentia
Jan
Chrisjan
Gert
Abraham
Willem
Leon
Irma
Roelof/Roelf
Magnus
Barend

Some English:
Herbert (my brother's name)
Basil
Sol
Title: Re: Names that arenít used anymore
Post by: juventino on April 24, 2019, 03:48:09 PM

Basil


Basil is popular with the greeks
Title: Re: Names that arenít used anymore
Post by: Shonver on April 24, 2019, 03:59:04 PM
Wilhelm/Wilhelmina
Henrietta
Beauregard
Title: Re: Names that arenít used anymore
Post by: Trompie67 on April 24, 2019, 04:21:51 PM
Basil is popular with the greeks

Yet not so popular with Sybil :(
Title: Re: Names that arenít used anymore
Post by: Curlycat on April 24, 2019, 06:27:33 PM
Twit
****
Dick
Engelbert
Eric
Putz

This is the last snide post we will read about Eric or Family Dog on this forum, from either BWS or Rotten Johnny. Anyone willing to test my resolve on this, please be my guest.
Title: Re: Names that arenít used anymore
Post by: Rotten Johnny on April 24, 2019, 07:01:00 PM
:thinking:

I love it when you talk dirty  :ROFLMAO:
Title: Re: Names that arenít used anymore
Post by: Curlycat on April 24, 2019, 07:08:10 PM
Thank you for acknowledging my post.
Title: Re: Names that arenít used anymore
Post by: El Sid on April 24, 2019, 08:42:56 PM
Lesbia

It is a name - seriously.
Title: Re: Names that arenít used anymore
Post by: Rotten Johnny on April 24, 2019, 08:51:49 PM
Thank you for acknowledging my post.


I'll be done saving the few bits I need in a bit...
Title: Re: Names that arenít used anymore
Post by: El Sid on April 24, 2019, 11:17:46 PM
Some Afrikaans names that were popular around my generation's birth years and those of the generation before (I don't hear these names often in the current generation, at least at my son's school - looks like family names are on their way out, replaced by modern Americanised names like Keanu and Paris   :facepalm: ):

Eufesia
......


While trying to remeber why the name Eufesia rang a bell, I came across this amusing article (in Dutch but mostly comprehensible): Eeufesius, Hitleriana en andere bizarre Zuid-Afrikaanse voornamen (https://www.vernoeming.nl/eeufesia-hitleriana)

"Apartheidi"  :ROFLMAO:
Title: Re: Names that arenít used anymore
Post by: BWS on April 25, 2019, 08:59:40 AM
This is the last snide post we will read about Eric or Family Dog on this forum, from either BWS or Rotten Johnny. Anyone willing to test my resolve on this, please be my guest.


Flexing early on already I see. How sure are you it was aimed at F_D? Fair to assume yes, but not to a 100% certainty.


Go cuddle up, lapdog.


I reckon I'm beating you @Rotten Johnny to the ban :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
Title: Re: Names that arenít used anymore
Post by: Rotten Johnny on April 25, 2019, 10:36:31 AM
Haibo, I forgot to save the **** I want so must bite my tongue for another day.
Title: Re: Names that arenít used anymore
Post by: Skylark on April 25, 2019, 01:46:41 PM



Flexing early on already I see. How sure are you it was aimed at F_D? Fair to assume yes, but not to a 100% certainty.


Go cuddle up, lapdog.


I reckon I'm beating you @Rotten Johnny to the ban



Haibo, I forgot to save the **** I want so must bite my tongue for another day.

We need to make a play pen section for you 2, soft toys and suckers, nursery rhymes playing softly in the background?

Title: Re: Names that arenít used anymore
Post by: BWS on April 25, 2019, 01:54:06 PM



We need to make a play pen section for you 2, soft toys and suckers, nursery rhymes playing softly in the background?


Make it leather, beer, doritos, strippers and George Thorogood playing in the background and we're there :thumbs:
Title: Re: Names that arenít used anymore
Post by: Katji on April 25, 2019, 03:09:03 PM
Some Afrikaans names that were popular around my generation's birth years and those of the generation before (I don't hear these names often in the current generation, at least at my son's school - looks like family names are on their way out, replaced by modern Americanised names like Keanu and Paris   :facepalm: ):
I think it started in 1980s. American influence on [names] from film/tv...seems that South Africans, English and Afrikaans, were more influenced by it, sooner, than the British and other Europeans.  Some of those names, like Cindy (very popular in SA), are short forms of proper names, like Cynthia, that became proper names because people registered them as their children's names.
Some of them began as stage names / film star names.
Dunno about Keanu, for all I know it's Polynesian or something, but Paris is the name of an ancient Greek mythology figure. - Male.

Quote
Eufesia
Marthinus
Saartjie
Matthys
Trudie
Emmerentia
Jan
Chrisjan
Gert
Abraham
Willem
Leon
Irma
Roelof/Roelf
Magnus
Barend

Some English:
Herbert (my brother's name)
Basil
Sol
Sol Kerzner. Solly.  Short form of Solomon, birth certificate will have Solomon.  Jewish/Hebrew.
Basil is Latin.
Quote
Basil is popular with the greeks.
hmm, Latin botanical name, maybe came from Greek.

About 80-90% of English/British names are Anglicised forms of Jewish/Hebrew names. Maybe more Dutch and German names are original Germanic names.  Hence were called Christian names, more recently started referring to them as first names - and last names instead of surnames.
If you can't find a corresponding Biblical name or Latin name, maybe it is original Germanic/Anglo/Celtic/whatever.  Sometimes difficult without academic study stuff.
Anglicised and Dutchified and Frenchified versions of Jewish names.
Matthew, Mark, Luke and John.  Matthys, Mathias.  Jean, Jan.  Marthinus, Martin.
Abraham.  The original "prophet, or Jewish patriarch.  Abraham Lincoln.

Gert, Gerrit.  Roelof. Rudolf.  Barend. Willem, William, Wilhelm.  I can't see any Biblical connection...?

Eufesia.  Euphesia.  It seems Latin.  (Where did the 'ph' thing for 'f' come from, in English and German? Good thing about Dutch/Nederlands is they didn't do that. Dolf not Dolph.)

Saartjie. Saartje. Looks to be a short form of something...?
Title: Re: Names that arenít used anymore
Post by: Skylark on April 25, 2019, 03:16:12 PM

Make it leather, beer, doritos, strippers and George Thorogood playing in the background and we're there :thumbs:
Whatever they use as pacifiers these days is good with me.
Title: Re: Names that arenít used anymore
Post by: BWS on April 25, 2019, 03:26:33 PM
Whatever they use as pacifiers these days is good with me.


What works for you? I'm flexible
Title: Re: Names that arenít used anymore
Post by: Katji on April 25, 2019, 04:43:12 PM
Ok, enough.  Or just close the thread. Yet another.
Title: Re: Names that arenít used anymore
Post by: Thys on April 25, 2019, 05:19:04 PM
Ossewania
Title: Re: Names that arenít used anymore
Post by: Curlycat on April 25, 2019, 05:20:19 PM

Flexing early on already I see. How sure are you it was aimed at F_D? Fair to assume yes, but not to a 100% certainty.


Go cuddle up, lapdog.


I reckon I'm beating you @Rotten Johnny to the ban :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:

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Title: Re: Names that arenít used anymore
Post by: chrisc on November 07, 2019, 05:13:32 PM
My great-great grandfather (1821 to 1910) was Horatio Annabel Bartholomue Leedham.   His father served under Lord Nelson so that is where the first name came from.  Annabel was his grandmother's name

He became a master builder and built the first railway tunnel under the Mersey between Birkenhead and Liverpool which opened in 1886.  The Prince of Wales came to the opening and congratulated him in that "only 33 men and 14 horses" perished during construction

He lived in Nottingham and Leicester and had 15 children.  12 of them outlived him.  Being a master builder, he had, for the time a good income, his wife was a Quaker and she saw to it that the children were well looked after

I have the photographs from the constructors album.  This is the Illustrated London News engraving

(https://i.imgur.com/KFsv1aI.jpg)
Title: Re: Names that arenít used anymore
Post by: JonnyP on November 07, 2019, 05:31:15 PM
Not uncommon names as such, but in line with Chrisís post above (including Annabel in a manís name).  Both of my nieces have their fatherís first name as a middle name due to being born in Egypt and the fatherís first name being included on the Arabic language birth certificate.  So two girls called Benjamin!
Title: Re: Names that arenít used anymore
Post by: Ju_dy@RT on November 08, 2019, 11:02:21 AM
^^ yeah very common.  I have a dutch friend (female) who has 5 names as she was an only child... 3 of which are male. Petrus, Frans & Andre :)
Title: Re: Names that arenít used anymore
Post by: Ju_dy@RT on November 08, 2019, 11:24:26 AM
My great-great grandfather (1821 to 1910) was Horatio Annabel Bartholomue Leedham.   His father served under Lord Nelson so that is where the first name came from.  Annabel was his grandmother's name

He became a master builder and built the first railway tunnel under the Mersey between Birkenhead and Liverpool which opened in 1886.  The Prince of Wales came to the opening and congratulated him in that "only 33 men and 14 horses" perished during construction

He lived in Nottingham and Leicester and had 15 children.  12 of them outlived him.  Being a master builder, he had, for the time a good income, his wife was a Quaker and she saw to it that the children were well looked after

I have the photographs from the constructors album.  This is the Illustrated London News engraving

(https://i.imgur.com/KFsv1aI.jpg)

Thanks for sharing... great story/heritage!

We're waiting a few years until the DNA banks in England build up a bit, then I'll be sending hubby's details in to see where the connections lie. His great grandfather probably lived somewhere in the greater london area , but his identity is unknown as  hubby's grandad was "scandalously ;D" born out of wedlock (presumably) as no father on the birth entry.



Title: Re: Names that arenít used anymore
Post by: Katji on November 08, 2019, 11:51:36 AM
My cousin did the genealogy, she found that one great-uncle had 3 wives, at least one while he was still married to a previous one.
Title: Re: Names that arenít used anymore
Post by: Katji on November 08, 2019, 11:55:59 AM
Horace 
Father was Horace Eric, he was known as Eric.
Title: Re: Names that arenít used anymore
Post by: Family_Dog on November 08, 2019, 12:33:37 PM
Eric... such a lovely name  :angel:

Horace, not so much  :giggle:
Title: Re: Names that arenít used anymore
Post by: chrisc on November 08, 2019, 12:46:19 PM
There are always skeletons in the closet

My best one dates back to 1806.  Benjamin Leedham held up a stagecoach and robbed the passengers of 5 shillings.  He was sentenced to death, but luckily for him, it was changed to transportation to America and he arrived in Canada in 1810

When I was doing my ancestry research in 2009 with the help of my English cousin, I happened to look at the Church of the Latter Day Saints (the Mormons) website who operate a vast genealogical database.  To access a file, you need to provide your email address and name

About 3 weeks later, I received this email from a lady who lives just north of Vancouver.  She was looking at the same entry and spotted my name and email.  After a bit of correspondence, we discovered that our families had diverged in about 1740, when everyone lived in Norfolk.   It turned out that she was a direct descendant of this Benjamin fellow who settled in Canada and got married.  She said that she was initially embarrassed that this should come out, but her daughter told her not to be silly

She also said that if I was in the area, I should come for tea.  I explained that I lived in Cape Town in South Africa, but she said this did not make any difference!

If you have ever watched Poldark, the gent who is married to Demelza in Cornwall, those are the stagecoaches used in those days
Title: Re: Names that arenít used anymore
Post by: vleisman on November 08, 2019, 01:00:07 PM
Siobhan - and such a lovely name imo
Title: Re: Names that arenít used anymore
Post by: Trompie67 on November 08, 2019, 01:07:04 PM
Siobhan - and such a lovely name imo

Not that uncommon. I have 2 friends, one in her 30's, the other in her 20's who are both Siobhan.
Title: Re: Names that arenít used anymore
Post by: Ju_dy@RT on November 08, 2019, 01:08:26 PM
My cousin did the genealogy, she found that one great-uncle had 3 wives, at least one while he was still married to a previous one.


I'm HOPING to find something equally scandalous!  :giggle: The old lady was a "house maid" in the early 1900's... so yes, first suspect would be her employer.  Not uncommon during those times.

I've got the address, so all I would have to is a deed search. If the owner's family pops up on the gene search, we'll have a winner!  The house was destroyed though... presumably in the blitz.
Title: Re: Names that arenít used anymore
Post by: zer0 on November 08, 2019, 01:18:43 PM
Depending on how factual Monty Python movies are, there may have been some very odd names in ancient Rome :)

If you have or had kids in school the last few years you may also have seen some very odd names. Often made weirder by the surname.
Santa-Maria van der Merwe is one that comes up.
Title: Re: Names that arenít used anymore
Post by: chrisc on November 08, 2019, 01:36:39 PM
I had an employee Helen, an intelligent young lady when I ran a call centre.   One day she told me she was pregnant.  I asked about a husband (none) who the father was (she did not know).  Anyway, the little boy was born and an "auntie" looked after him

Within 2 years she was pregnant again.  No idea whose it was, she said.  I told her that if she could identify the father, he would be compelled to contribute to the child's upbringing

I was told told that in Ocean View (a predominantly coloured area near Kommetjie) it did not work like that

Fast forward 3 years, pregnant again.  Same story

She managed to inherit a house from an aunt, so I set her up to rent it out.  A current boyfriend was a collector for a legal firm, so no problem collecting rent

We all have different ways of managing our lives
Title: Re: Names that arenít used anymore
Post by: Katji on November 08, 2019, 01:39:32 PM
Eric... such a lovely name  :angel:

Horace, not so much  :giggle:
That's how I get reminded of it these days.
Yes, it's a good name, not common but not weird.
Title: Re: Names that arenít used anymore
Post by: Mongoose on November 08, 2019, 09:05:48 PM
Muriel
Josephine
Mildred
Johanna
Shirley
Maud
Agatha
Agnes
Arthur
Magdalene
Bartholomew
Salome
Anastasia
Archibald

My mom's name was Magdelene and my grandmother Johanna. I think most of the names listed here are considered "ou karton" by the current generation. A few I have to admit I wouldnt bestow upon my next child. Juure heaven forbid I have another one at my age
Title: Re: Names that arenít used anymore
Post by: Mongoose on November 08, 2019, 09:09:27 PM
Just out of interest sake, should any of you have another baby, boy or girl, what would you name them? For me, if it was a boy it would be Micheal, a girl would be.... I have to ask the Mrs
Title: Re: Names that arenít used anymore
Post by: chrisc on November 09, 2019, 08:14:26 AM
I have two god-children.  Amazingly, both are named Eleanor.  One lives in England and I only saw her at her christening, the other is here in Cape Town and she is 28 and gets married in December

The English Eleanor.  She is 11 now

(https://i.imgur.com/Yefuahx.jpg)
Title: Re: Names that arenít used anymore
Post by: HB on November 09, 2019, 08:39:31 AM
My mom's name was Magdelene and my grandmother Johanna. I think most of the names listed here are considered "ou karton" by the current generation. A few I have to admit I wouldnt bestow upon my next child. Juure heaven forbid I have another one at my age
My second name is Magda and my brother's is Josephine  :be:
We where named after our god mothers.a tradition in Belgium.
Title: Re: Names that arenít used anymore
Post by: Mongoose on November 09, 2019, 05:16:17 PM
Thanx mods, for the "karton" correction. Didnt realize the other was a sensative word   :angel:
Title: Re: Names that arenít used anymore
Post by: zer0 on November 09, 2019, 07:38:03 PM
My second name is Magda and my brother's is Josephine  :be:
We where named after our god mothers.a tradition in Belgium.
Where did you go to school, Belgium or SA?
I know in this country you guys would've been teased from dusk to dawn.
Title: Re: Names that arenít used anymore
Post by: HB on November 09, 2019, 08:36:31 PM
Yip. Scarred for life  :facepalm: