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Title: Starter kit
Post by: naks on June 19, 2014, 02:18:31 PM
Hi guys,

Ok, so I know nothing of turntables.

I mostly listen to classical, opera, heavy metal, jazz, blues

Would this be a decent starter kit to start enjoying some vinyls? http://www.dionwired.co.za/ion-usb-lp-turntable-player-wood.html

(http://www.dionwired.co.za/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/360x/cbcbef48e5e3bcce7c7ed908f20bc5b4/6/2/622138.jpg)

Title: Re: Starter kit
Post by: Mistro on June 19, 2014, 02:24:26 PM
Noooooooooooooo!!! :stop:
Rather look at the Pro-ject offerings in the Trader's section! You'll hate vinyl if you get one of those!
Title: Re: Starter kit
Post by: surfsup on June 19, 2014, 02:26:05 PM
Noooooooooooooo!!! :stop:
Rather look at the Pro-ject offerings in the Trader's section! You'll hate vinyl if you get one of those!
+100 000 000 - Do not buy!   
Title: Re: Starter kit
Post by: Hi-Phibian on June 19, 2014, 02:27:14 PM
No, it really isn't. It is built to a price with plastic bits that should not be plastic.
The thing with vinyl is that if the mechanicals are poor, no amount of electronics will recover the lost bits.

http://www.avforums.co.za/index.php/topic,34851.0.html

http://www.avforums.co.za/index.php/topic,34898.0.html

Title: Re: Starter kit
Post by: Jaco on June 19, 2014, 02:28:35 PM
Nope...
These ion's are pretty nasty. Their stylus tips are usually very cheap gems or steel in some cases, which will damage your LP's.

You are better off spending the R1.5K on something second hand on this forum.

Unfortunately you get people that buy these  :cr@p: turntables and end up hating Vinyl, simply because the equipment does not perform well.

My  :2c:, but worth a $1 000 000  :giggle:
Title: Re: Starter kit
Post by: naks on June 19, 2014, 02:32:13 PM
Cool, thanks.

I'll keep looking in the For Sale section until something comes up.

That AR unit looks good, but has been taken.  :-\
Title: Re: Starter kit
Post by: naks on June 19, 2014, 02:38:57 PM
Btw, are there any vinyl shops around Somerset West/Stellenbosch area that I can go visit to sample turntables?
Title: Re: Starter kit
Post by: naks on June 19, 2014, 02:54:26 PM
One more question - do I need to get a turntable with a pre-amp, seeing my AVR does not have a Phono input?
Title: Starter kit
Post by: Hi-Phibian on June 19, 2014, 03:14:21 PM
You would need a seperate phono pre amplifier or a turntable with one built in. These are not common as quality units but the Project Elemental USB is one that does.
Title: Re: Starter kit
Post by: vinyljan on June 21, 2014, 07:51:56 AM
 :thinking:with the way vinyl is going, maybe a sticky? What you need, what you shouldn't get kind of advice?
Title: Re: Starter kit
Post by: naks on August 13, 2014, 12:16:07 PM
guys, this any good?

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NTk3WDgwMA==/z/Su0AAOSwxH1T6kGv/$_20.JPG)

Quote
Turntable in good working condition. Cartridge and stylus fitted and speed seems steady. Tested and good to go! You will need an amp with a phono input - I have one for sale.

Asking R550 Cash for the turntable only.

(Also in other ads is a Sansui AU217 amp and a Sansui T60 tuner. )

The Sansui P-50 is a hi-fi belt driven turntable with automatic return/shut-off and easy to operate controls.

Features include an automatic tonearm, arm elevation lever and stop switch, static balance tonearm, one-gram tracking, rock steady drive and a solid, shock absorbing cabinet.

http://www.vinylengine.com/library/sansui/p-50.shtml

http://www.gumtree.co.za/a-turntables/kenilworth/sansui-p+50-turntable/1001170801710910017684009
Title: Re: Starter kit
Post by: naks on August 13, 2014, 12:18:14 PM
or this JVC:

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NzMwWDgwMA==/z/TGIAAOSwxH1T6fYW/$_20.JPG)

Quote
I am selling a great JVC JL-A20 semi-automatic belt-drive turntable. The table has been serviced, cleaned, polished and a new drive belt as well as a brand-spanking-new stylus fitted. This made-in-Japan turntable from the late 70s shows some outward signs of use (as per the pictures), but is mechanically and sonically in top condition - ready for your vinyl records! I have fitted a lid from another turntable - not original, but fits and works perfectly - no cracks, and the hinges are 100%. Come and listen to it - I am sure you will like it!

From Vinylengine (where you can download the user manual):

Description

The JVC JL-A20 is a 2-speed, belt-driven, semi-auto turntable system with integral tonearm.

Specifications

Drive method: belt drive

Motor: 4-pole synchronous

Wow and flutter: 0.06%

Rumble: 63dB

Tonearm: statically balanced, s-shaped, tubular pipe arm with TH balancing system and tracking force dial

http://www.gumtree.co.za/a-turntables/durbanville/jvc-jl+a20-semi+automatic-belt+drive-turntable/1001170629110910011586309
Title: Re: Starter kit
Post by: alternativeroute on August 13, 2014, 12:33:36 PM
The JVC is a a nice table... Better than the Sansui in my opinion..
Title: Re: Starter kit
Post by: placebo on August 13, 2014, 12:40:59 PM
I agree with Alty.It does look nice.You will still need a phonostage.That JVC could be a very nice starter T/T.
Title: Re: Starter kit
Post by: Rockit on August 13, 2014, 01:48:27 PM
I'd still go with the Pro-ject option (with built-in pre)
Title: Re: Starter kit
Post by: Aqualung on August 14, 2014, 06:50:26 PM
The JVC is a great deck for the price (it was mine) but it has been sold, to a young lady whose Dad told her NOT to buy a turntable from M****a, and found her this one! (She did go and buy a few LPs from M****a this morning, though!)

 :groovy:
Title: Re: Starter kit
Post by: naks on August 15, 2014, 10:18:00 AM
The JVC is a great deck for the price (it was mine) but it has been sold, to a young lady whose Dad told her NOT to buy a turntable from M****a, and found her this one! (She did go and buy a few LPs from M****a this morning, though!)
 :groovy:

Ah.

Please keep me in mind when you have another item for sale, pref one with a built-in phono  :thumbs:
Title: Re: Starter kit
Post by: Aqualung on August 15, 2014, 10:42:23 AM
Quote
Please keep me in mind when you have another item for sale :thumbs:

Will do.

Quote
pref one with a built-in phono  :thumbs:

Not likely, given the type and age of the tables I mess about with...  :groovy:
Title: Re: Starter kit
Post by: BGD on August 15, 2014, 11:34:34 AM
Spend a little bit more and get the Pro-Ject Elemental from Hi-Phibian. I couldn't be happier with mine. It also looks so nice :D
Title: Re: Starter kit
Post by: naks on August 15, 2014, 11:57:20 AM
Spend a little bit more and get the Pro-Ject Elemental from Hi-Phibian. I couldn't be happier with mine. It also looks so nice :D

Yeah, I've been thinking of that one. But somehow a 'modern' looking TT just doesn't make sense to me  :sulky:
Title: Re: Starter kit
Post by: Jaco on August 15, 2014, 12:05:40 PM
Yeah, I've been thinking of that one. But somehow a 'modern' looking TT just doesn't make sense to me  :sulky:

I'm not sure why you feel this way, but it is your prerogative. :pleasant:

I think some of the "modern" looking stuff actually reflect the current trends, whilst also having good WAF.

Getting back to the ProJect, they are very good and best value for money. :2thumbs:
Title: Re: Starter kit
Post by: naks on August 15, 2014, 12:21:04 PM
WAF.

WAF?


IMHO, this:

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NjAwWDgwMA==/z/yxIAAOSwRLZT7S6U/$_20.JPG)


looks better than that:

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/18/pyme2uge.jpg)
Title: Re: Starter kit
Post by: stevanbuxt on August 15, 2014, 12:25:29 PM
WAF?


IMHO, this:

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NjAwWDgwMA==/z/yxIAAOSwRLZT7S6U/$_20.JPG)


looks better than that:

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/18/pyme2uge.jpg)

There is a B&O on this forum for sale! Go for it!!!!
Title: Re: Starter kit
Post by: Aqualung on August 15, 2014, 12:27:52 PM
/\/\/\ I agree with Naks - I also don't really like the "modern look" turntable.
But each to his own, and different strokes...
Re WAF: I showed 2 young ladies a Rega Planar 2 (the one with the brown wood trim) last night, and they almost swooned; couldn't stop talking about the beautiful vintage look. (They also loved the sound...)  :groovy:
Title: Re: Starter kit
Post by: naks on August 15, 2014, 12:29:08 PM
yep, personal preference plays a large part in this, hence why I am not doing a quick purchase.

OTOH, this NAD would go well with the rest of the NAD/PSB setup I have: http://www.gumtree.co.za/a-turntables/bellville/nad-5120-semi+automatic-belt+drive-turntable/1001157416240910260029709

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NjAwWDQ1MA==/z/9JgAAOSwhglTxsrg/$_20.JPG)
Title: Re: Starter kit
Post by: stevanbuxt on August 15, 2014, 12:31:52 PM
yep, personal preference plays a large part in this, hence why I am not doing a quick purchase.

OTOH, this NAD would go well with the rest of the NAD/PSB setup I have: http://www.gumtree.co.za/a-turntables/bellville/nad-5120-semi+automatic-belt+drive-turntable/1001157416240910260029709

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NjAwWDQ1MA==/z/9JgAAOSwhglTxsrg/$_20.JPG)

Me thinks the B&O redone by Skollie would sound better.. my humble opinion!
Title: Re: Starter kit
Post by: BGD on August 15, 2014, 12:48:47 PM
Guess I'm a minimalistic kind of guy.  :shh:
Title: Re: Starter kit
Post by: Hi-Phibian on August 15, 2014, 01:13:23 PM
Vinyl need not be vintage. I myself don't get vintage. Except for maybe Quad which always had slightly avant style together with Braun, the seventies stuff does nothing for me.

It is of course all in the eye of the beholder and what aesthetic feel you want in an environment.

I prefer the plain black and even coloured Rega look by far to the wood trim for eg. My favorite Rega  is the black with the textured "gramophone" finish.

Anyways, affordable phonos close too. Still deciding on selling them stock or CTI...
Title: Re: Starter kit
Post by: Jaco on August 15, 2014, 01:18:02 PM
WAF?


IMHO, this:

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NjAwWDgwMA==/z/yxIAAOSwRLZT7S6U/$_20.JPG)


looks better than that:

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/18/pyme2uge.jpg)

WAF = Wife Acceptance Factor.

And as I said: It is your prerogative...
Personally, I don't mind what it looks like, as long as it can spin the big black plastic discs and make beautiful sound.  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: Starter kit
Post by: placebo on August 15, 2014, 01:28:33 PM


Anyways, affordable phonos close too. Still deciding on selling them stock or CTI...
If I decide to go the affordable phono route it will not be merely a CTI but a GTI.
Title: Re: Starter kit
Post by: Hi-Phibian on August 15, 2014, 01:35:12 PM
Croak Tuned Internals. Only the finest limited editions for friends and family get tuned by Guillaume. 
Title: Re: Starter kit
Post by: placebo on August 15, 2014, 01:45:29 PM
Croak Tuned Internals. Only the finest limited editions for friends and family get tuned by Guillaume.
I know what CTI stands for and you guessed the GTI part.
Title: Re: Starter kit
Post by: Babbalas on August 18, 2014, 09:19:21 AM
:thinking: with the way vinyl is going, maybe a sticky? What you need, what you shouldn't get kind of advice?

Would love this type of sticky, I'm also very interested in starting out with vinyl. But there is a lot to learn! For some of us younger folk the whole vinyl thing does not come as naturally  ;)

Since it is not the cheapest thing to get started, it would be great to have a good base to work from rather than to spend money on something useless, then get a bad idea about the whole thing and leave it altogether?
 
A quite in depth description of what is needed to start out, what to look out for, the small differences (which make big differences) in turntables etc.

For example the difference between MC, MM etc. cartridges, what are the positives and negatives of each?
Title: Re: Starter kit
Post by: skollie on August 18, 2014, 10:38:45 AM
WAF?


IMHO, this:

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NjAwWDgwMA==/z/yxIAAOSwRLZT7S6U/$_20.JPG)


looks better than that:

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/18/pyme2uge.jpg)

Hey, you stole my pic :baseball:

skollie
Title: Re: Starter kit
Post by: naks on August 18, 2014, 03:40:09 PM
Hey, you stole my pic :baseball:
skollie

Ooops, sorry  :whistler:
Title: Re: Starter kit
Post by: Family_Dog on August 18, 2014, 05:34:21 PM
A Sticky it is... :whistler:


-F_D
Title: Re: Starter kit
Post by: naks on August 21, 2014, 09:54:37 AM
yes/no?

Micro Seiki for R1650: http://www.gumtree.co.za/a-turntables/sea-point-three-anchor-bay/micro-seiki-turntable/1001173113460910003386009

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/ODAwWDYwMA==/z/r~QAAOSwbqpT8bEJ/$_20.JPG)

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NjAwWDgwMA==/z/GfwAAOSwQItT8bEF/$_20.JPG)
Title: Re: Starter kit
Post by: naks on August 21, 2014, 09:59:26 AM
technics sl1200 mk2 for R2,000, no cart : http://www.gumtree.co.za/a-turntables/athlone/technics-sl1200-mk2/1001172407390910008696409

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NTc2WDEwMjQ=/z/8UMAAOSwEK9T7m98/$_20.JPG)
Title: Re: Starter kit
Post by: alternativeroute on August 21, 2014, 10:40:01 AM
yes/no?

Micro Seiki for R1650: http://www.gumtree.co.za/a-turntables/sea-point-three-anchor-bay/micro-seiki-turntable/1001173113460910003386009

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/ODAwWDYwMA==/z/r~QAAOSwbqpT8bEJ/$_20.JPG)

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NjAwWDgwMA==/z/GfwAAOSwQItT8bEF/$_20.JPG)

Nice table  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: Starter kit
Post by: IvMan on August 21, 2014, 04:09:54 PM
either of them ought to be great tables.

Title: Re: Starter kit
Post by: SOAN on August 21, 2014, 04:49:57 PM
Have owned both, I would rather go with the Micro Seiki.  :thumbs:
Title: Re: Starter kit
Post by: naks on August 21, 2014, 04:58:41 PM
but now I am reading all about how direct-drives are not as good as belt-driven due to noise, etc.
Title: Re: Starter kit
Post by: stevanbuxt on August 21, 2014, 05:22:09 PM
IMO nothing wrong with a Technics or Micro Seiko Direct drive. Micro Seiki and Technics were masters of their game!
Title: Re: Starter kit
Post by: Hi-Phibian on August 21, 2014, 06:18:23 PM
Depending on why the 1200 needs a minor service? It is the better table imo.
Title: Re: Starter kit
Post by: placebo on August 21, 2014, 07:11:00 PM
but now I am reading all about how direct-drives are not as good as belt-driven due to noise, etc.
Depending on condition of the Micro I would go for the Micro.Built like tanks but then so were the Technics T/T's.Minor service can add up and up.But then I have never been a  fan of the SL 1200.Your call the faster the better.
Title: Re: Starter kit
Post by: Hi-Phibian on August 21, 2014, 07:59:15 PM
Not that micro. Micro made from ok to grande. This one is ok. Really, the techie is better. I am commenting mostly based on the arm btw.
Title: Re: Starter kit
Post by: placebo on August 21, 2014, 08:18:33 PM
The picture is a bit to dark for me to comment on the arm.The other thing I did not like about the Micro is it is Auto Return.From reading the sales pitch the arm should be good Obviously if not massive money.The Technics is also well built but what is the condition.The Micro is in theory serviced.Try before you buy.Then make the decision.
Title: Re: Starter kit
Post by: alternativeroute on August 21, 2014, 09:41:23 PM
Not that micro. Micro made from ok to grande. This one is ok. Really, the techie is better. I am commenting mostly based on the arm btw.

The Technics is better than the Micro by a long mile. Except it is on my table for repairs with 'speed issues'... The guy who bought it was told that all it needed was a 'service'... I am off to someone with a scope and some test equipment this weekend. Might need more than a service...
Title: Re: Starter kit
Post by: WAP on August 26, 2014, 08:24:09 AM
Want to get into vinyl.

Would it be better to get something secondhand that has been serviced etc. or i was thinking a pro-ject elemental.
My current system consists of a NAD c352 with a set of MA BX5's.

I would not need a phonostage if i go with the elemental.

What would be the best ?

Thanks
Title: Re: Starter kit
Post by: WAP on August 27, 2014, 10:41:06 AM
Nobody ?
Title: Re: Starter kit
Post by: alternativeroute on August 27, 2014, 10:58:14 AM
Nobody ?

lots of variables there... hard to tell. Not all second hand tables are created equally.
Title: Re: Starter kit
Post by: stevanbuxt on August 27, 2014, 11:14:57 AM
I would preferably go with a table and a separate phono stage... possibly look at some 2nd hand stuff (vintage or not) or a basic Project and the Toad phono stage from Hi-Phibian!
Title: Re: Starter kit
Post by: Hi-Phibian on August 27, 2014, 11:49:23 AM
Seperate TT and phono is more versatile and allows more option in future. Elemental with a tiny toad is less cash then elemental phono USB. Just no USB.
Title: Re: Starter kit
Post by: Chingy on August 27, 2014, 03:48:51 PM
yes/no?

Micro Seiki for R1650: http://www.gumtree.co.za/a-turntables/sea-point-three-anchor-bay/micro-seiki-turntable/1001173113460910003386009

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/ODAwWDYwMA==/z/r~QAAOSwbqpT8bEJ/$_20.JPG)

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NjAwWDgwMA==/z/GfwAAOSwQItT8bEF/$_20.JPG)
also just got a DD-33, Alty is giving it some tlc on Friday  :rubhands:
Title: Re: Starter kit
Post by: Chingy on August 28, 2014, 07:42:41 AM
my new starter TT

(http://i1366.photobucket.com/albums/r773/Rotel123/011_zps6b3f4a08.jpg) (http://s1366.photobucket.com/user/Rotel123/media/011_zps6b3f4a08.jpg.html)

(http://i1366.photobucket.com/albums/r773/Rotel123/012_zpsb90ec4a8.jpg) (http://s1366.photobucket.com/user/Rotel123/media/012_zpsb90ec4a8.jpg.html)

(http://i1366.photobucket.com/albums/r773/Rotel123/014_zps46d124d8.jpg) (http://s1366.photobucket.com/user/Rotel123/media/014_zps46d124d8.jpg.html)

(http://i1366.photobucket.com/albums/r773/Rotel123/016_zps25d3cb38.jpg) (http://s1366.photobucket.com/user/Rotel123/media/016_zps25d3cb38.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Starter kit
Post by: stevanbuxt on August 28, 2014, 11:15:20 AM
also just got a DD-33, Alty is giving it some tlc on Friday  :rubhands:

Did you sell the Garrard 401?
Title: Re: Starter kit
Post by: Chingy on August 28, 2014, 01:25:27 PM
no, and I don't think I will, but the DD-33 might be for sale soon
Title: Re: Starter kit
Post by: alternativeroute on August 28, 2014, 01:52:06 PM
Here is a good offer for the cash asked: http://www.gumtree.co.za/a-turntables/tokai/project-debut-2-turntable/1001178169190910006606509

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NjAwWDgwMA==/z/o5wAAOSw-jhT~xGT/$_20.JPG)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NjAwWDgwMA==/z/HJAAAOSwGvhT~xGc/$_20.JPG)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NjAwWDgwMA==/z/TMgAAOSwDk5T~xGg/$_20.JPG)
Title: Re: Starter kit
Post by: stevanbuxt on August 28, 2014, 03:15:40 PM
no, and I don't think I will, but the DD-33 might be for sale soon

I just let Altie redo my Garrard.. done in the right way. It is PERFECT!!!  It's a real keeper. They are getting rarer and rarer on ebay.
Title: Re: Starter kit
Post by: naks on August 28, 2014, 03:38:12 PM
I just let Altie redo my Garrard.. done in the right way. It is PERFECT!!!  It's a real keeper. They are getting rarer and rarer on ebay.

who is Altie?
Title: Re: Starter kit
Post by: alternativeroute on August 28, 2014, 03:45:23 PM
who is Altie?

urghm, that would be me  :EGrin:
Title: Re: Starter kit
Post by: naks on August 28, 2014, 03:49:00 PM
urghm, that would be me  :EGrin:

I get the feeling I should come by your place sometime soon. SWAMBO is going out of town in a couple of weeks...
Title: Re: Starter kit
Post by: stevanbuxt on August 29, 2014, 04:06:28 PM
I get the feeling I should come by your place sometime soon. SWAMBO is going out of town in a couple of weeks...

 :popcorn:
Title: Re: Starter kit
Post by: WAP on September 01, 2014, 02:45:11 PM
Thanks to hi-phibian. I received my elemental and tiny toad this morning.
Now just waiting for my vinyls to arrive.

Title: Re: Starter kit
Post by: placebo on September 01, 2014, 08:11:07 PM
Thanks to hi-phibian. I received my elemental and tiny toad this morning.
Now just waiting for my vinyls to arrive.
I trust you also purchased vinyl cleaning equipment at the same time.Even for new vinyl it is a must.
Title: Re: Starter kit
Post by: WAP on September 02, 2014, 07:47:26 AM
I trust you also purchased vinyl cleaning equipment at the same time.Even for new vinyl it is a must.

Yes i got a carbon brush with. Would that be sufficient or do i need more stuff ?
Title: Re: Starter kit
Post by: placebo on September 02, 2014, 07:56:49 AM
Yes i got a carbon brush with. Would that be sufficient or do i need more stuff ?
Speak to Hi-Phibian.I would have bought the cleaning fluid with microfiber cloth as well.Not expensive.Otherwise read the forum and mix your own.However the Phib's fluid is also anti-static which helps.The Elemental's quality of sound even surprised me.
Title: Re: Starter kit
Post by: WAP on September 02, 2014, 08:37:18 AM
Will chat to him about the fluid.

Ja it sucks i ordered my vinyls from kalahari last week so still waiting. Everything is hooked up but nothing to ply. :headbanger:
Title: Re: Starter kit
Post by: Hi-Phibian on September 03, 2014, 07:57:18 AM
Don't use fluid on new vinyl without vacuum unless you follow with a serious rinse routine. Even then I have reservations.
Title: Re: Starter kit
Post by: stevanbuxt on September 08, 2014, 04:08:15 PM
Don't use fluid on new vinyl without vacuum unless you follow with a serious rinse routine. Even then I have reservations.

What the best for new vinyl then? I find some if it looks dirty and has surface noise. What's the rinse regime assuming one has a RCM?
Title: Starter kit
Post by: Hi-Phibian on September 08, 2014, 05:56:01 PM
Vacuum = RCM
No vacuum/RCM, beware of fluid on LPs that are not obviously filthy.

Rinse in distilled water. How many LPs can be rinsed before you would consider the water contaminated?
Title: Re: Starter kit
Post by: stevanbuxt on September 08, 2014, 07:58:51 PM
Vacuum = RCM
No vacuum/RCM, beware of fluid on LPs that are not obviously filthy.

Rinse in distilled water. How many LPs can be rinsed before you would consider the water contaminated?

Are you staying clean on  vacuum RCM with fluid.. then re-rinise on  vacuumRCM using distilled water.. all down with a vacuum? AOK for new records?
Title: Re: Starter kit
Post by: placebo on September 08, 2014, 08:12:48 PM
With RCM squirt cleaner on album.Brush or use cloth to spread evenly cleaning where possible.Turn album over and vacuum while repeating B side.Vacuum B side and bingo.If that does not work album is no good,Take time to do a proper job.
Title: Starter kit
Post by: Hi-Phibian on September 08, 2014, 08:17:50 PM
With an RCM you can clean any record you like.

In the case of no RCM and relatively clean records (for eg new ones) without rinse or vacuum cycle, you are likely to move some of the dirt in to harder to reach places.
Loosing possibly as much as you gain. When a record is visibly filthy, the pros easily outweigh the cons without rinse or vacuum.
Title: Re: Starter kit
Post by: Chingy on October 08, 2014, 01:08:23 PM
my new starter tt, Yamaha YP-211, needs some love from the tt whisperer, Atly will try to come drop her off this weekend


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(http://i1366.photobucket.com/albums/r773/Rotel123/009_zpsa143b799.jpg) (http://s1366.photobucket.com/user/Rotel123/media/009_zpsa143b799.jpg.html)
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Title: Re: Starter kit
Post by: Aqualung on October 08, 2014, 05:07:57 PM
/\/\/\ Very nice! Enjoy her...  :thumbs:
Title: Re: Starter kit
Post by: funkstar101 on November 03, 2014, 07:10:51 PM
good evening all, i acquired my first tt on sunday. a pioneer pl720. havent spun a vinyl on it yet. so wish me luck. saw it for sale at a stationery shop and there was no way to test it properly. is there anyone that can tell me about the pedigree of this tt if it even has any. oh yes, there'll be no :BWAHAHAH: :BWAHAHAH: or any  :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: either.
Title: Re: Starter kit
Post by: naks on June 15, 2015, 01:30:32 PM
guys, could I use one of these as a phono stage into my AVR?

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MzM2WDQ0OA==/z/kh8AAOSwZd1VfVO9/$_20.JPG)


What would I use as the output into the AVR - PreOut?
Title: Re: Starter kit
Post by: Jvl75 on June 15, 2015, 02:18:19 PM
good evening all, i acquired my first tt on sunday. a pioneer pl720. havent spun a vinyl on it yet. so wish me luck. saw it for sale at a stationery shop and there was no way to test it properly. is there anyone that can tell me about the pedigree of this tt if it even has any. oh yes, there'll be no :BWAHAHAH: :BWAHAHAH: or any  :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: either.

its not a bad turntable. im using one at the moment but looking to upgrade as the quartz is acting up and not keeping time. if you didnt pay to much then its a good find.
Title: Re: Starter kit
Post by: Hi-Phibian on June 15, 2015, 02:26:54 PM

guys, could I use one of these as a phono stage into my AVR?

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MzM2WDQ0OA==/z/kh8AAOSwZd1VfVO9/$_20.JPG)


What would I use as the output into the AVR - PreOut?

Use the tape record out, not the pre out.
Title: Re: Starter kit
Post by: schisi on December 09, 2015, 11:20:24 PM
I am so tempted to get a TT, but the availability of source material worries me.  :thinking:
Title: Re: Starter kit
Post by: Rockit on December 10, 2015, 10:59:37 AM
The availability isn't the issue. It's the price!
Title: Re: Starter kit
Post by: Rzrblade on March 04, 2018, 11:18:41 AM
exactly prices are crazy especially shops and resellers, wanna nail us, saw a panasonic for 2000 in a shop, same one selling for 350.
Title: Re: Starter kit
Post by: stereoholic on March 22, 2018, 03:55:47 PM
Hi all, I have decided to resurrect my record collection which has been stored away for the last decade or so and am looking at something half decent to play them on.

I need help with a new turntable and pre-amp. My current system is a Technics SL-B20 fitted with a Shure encore me75p, played through an old Sony TA- F40 (as a pre-amp, my main amp does not have a phono stage).

All input will be greatly appreciated.

Dave.



Title: Re: Starter kit
Post by: stereoholic on March 23, 2018, 08:39:14 AM
Nobody  :nfi:
Title: Re: Starter kit
Post by: vinyljan on March 23, 2018, 09:05:03 AM
Indication of budget ...and your idea of "half decent".   Your current cart is a Pmount?
Title: Re: Starter kit
Post by: stereoholic on March 23, 2018, 09:15:55 AM
Thanks for the reply.Budget is about 10k for pre-amp and turntable but I could stretch it a bit if need be.Been looking at the following as they get good reviews and can be sourced locally.

1.Rega Planar 2
2.Pro-ject Debut Carbon
3.Pro-ject Essential lll
4.Audio Technica LP5
5.Audio Technica AT-LP120

edit: Yes the Shure is P mount, looking to upgrade it as well though.
Title: Re: Starter kit
Post by: JonnyP on March 23, 2018, 09:52:23 AM
Maybe contact Achim - he's got some Rega goodies going at the moment, or try the Turntable Guy (who sometimes posts here but has a shop in Mowbray and is on the sticky tree)
Title: Re: Starter kit
Post by: vinyljan on March 23, 2018, 10:15:38 AM
Maybe contact Achim - he's got some Rega goodies going at the moment, or try the Turntable Guy (who sometimes posts here but has a shop in Mowbray and is on the sticky tree)

+1, Was trying to think who was selling those,  seemed like some good deals :thumbs:
Title: Re: Starter kit
Post by: stereoholic on March 23, 2018, 10:23:08 AM
+1, Was trying to think who was selling those,  seemed like some good deals :thumbs:

Thanks guys, I will definitely get in touch with them.
Title: Re: Starter kit
Post by: stereoholic on March 29, 2018, 10:00:12 AM
A quick question.I see the Rega Planar 2 has hard wired rca leads which look a bit suspect, are these leads ok?
Title: Re: Starter kit
Post by: stereoholic on April 04, 2018, 02:46:50 PM
Update: Got the Rega p 2 and phono mini from TTguy. Thanks Jacques for bringing it all the way to Melkbos and setting it up.I Will be breaking it in properly over the next few weeks  :Whoohoo:. I put on The Moody Blues Days of future past last night for a quick listen and thoroughly enjoyed it.