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Title: The Whisky thread
Post by: santoshlv426 on November 22, 2012, 03:55:57 PM
I wanted to share this (not the whiskey), but for those who want to buy this, Norman Good Fellow's in JHB is selling a bottle for ..... R154,999.00

It's not a mis print.

Santosh
Title: Re: Glenfiddich - 50 Year Old
Post by: Crafty on November 22, 2012, 04:02:08 PM
I wonder how many of the special kits I can get from rudi for this in trade....
Title: Re: Glenfiddich - 50 Year Old
Post by: lanties on November 22, 2012, 05:14:48 PM
I wonder how many of the special kits I can get from rudi for this in trade....

He does not like Glenfiddich
Title: Re: Glenfiddich - 50 Year Old
Post by: kamikazi on November 22, 2012, 09:15:34 PM
I'd rather have the B&W 802Di's and they'll last longer than the bottle of whiskey! Oh wait, the whisky's been around already for 50 years! :ROFLMAO:
Title: Re: Glenfiddich - 50 Year Old
Post by: GearSlave on November 22, 2012, 09:17:18 PM
He does not like Glenfiddich

Aag man he just wants to be different. Everyone likes Glenfiddich.
Title: Re: Glenfiddich - 50 Year Old
Post by: Mistro on November 22, 2012, 09:36:50 PM
I'd rather have the B&W 802Di's and they'll last longer than the bottle of whiskey! Oh wait, the whisky's been around already for 50 years! :ROFLMAO:

And that's if we can really prove that it has indeed been around for 50 years  :whistler:
Title: Re: Glenfiddich - 50 Year Old
Post by: Mistro on November 22, 2012, 09:37:06 PM
I'd rather have the B&W 802Di's and they'll last longer than the bottle of whiskey! Oh wait, the whisky's been around already for 50 years! :ROFLMAO:

And that's if we can really prove that it has indeed been around for 50 years  :whistler:
Title: Re: Glenfiddich - 50 Year Old
Post by: SeanS on November 22, 2012, 10:08:44 PM
I  prefer to sip my 50 year old in private, I only share the Johnny Black as not look to flash. I also only use my speaker cables for one song as not to suffer degradation from wear. I have maidens on hand to swap the cables.... obviously.
Title: Re: Glenfiddich - 50 Year Old
Post by: TimbaLand on November 22, 2012, 10:52:37 PM
Aag man he just wants to be different. Everyone likes Glenfiddich.
Its a capital crime not to like Glenfiddich
Title: Re: Glenfiddich - 50 Year Old
Post by: BWS on November 23, 2012, 07:34:21 AM
Imagine walking out of the bottlestore, trippipng and dropping that bugger on the tarmac :point:
Title: Re: Glenfiddich - 50 Year Old
Post by: Nadfan on November 23, 2012, 07:51:19 AM
The alarming aspect to me is not the price, but that there is actually a market for it, and some people can actually afford to buy it.
Title: Re: Glenfiddich - 50 Year Old
Post by: BWS on November 23, 2012, 07:56:25 AM
The alarming aspect to me is not the price, but that there is actually a market for it, and some people can actually afford to buy it.

Think: Members of Parliment
Title: Re: Glenfiddich - 50 Year Old
Post by: TimbaLand on November 23, 2012, 08:00:00 AM
Imagine walking out of the bottlestore, trippipng and dropping that bugger on the tarmac :point:
That happened to me before. It was Glenfiddich but not 50yr. Took a bottle with to a friend's place. He lived on the 1st floor and I was holding the container upside down unaware. At the top of the stairs the bottle slid out and it started rolling down and I chased after it. It broke before I could reach it. The rest of the day was miserable  :cr@p:
Title: Re: Glenfiddich - 50 Year Old
Post by: vdL on November 23, 2012, 08:01:56 AM
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Title: Re: Glenfiddich - 50 Year Old
Post by: Flash. on November 23, 2012, 08:32:18 AM
That bottle is not made to be drunk..

Its a collectors item, an investment so to speak..
Title: Re: Glenfiddich - 50 Year Old
Post by: Stefan on November 23, 2012, 10:09:25 AM
That bottle is not made to be drunk..

Its a collectors item, an investment so to speak..

+1 same as with classic cars reaching R90mil or old vintages of Chateau Lafite Rothschild/Petrus etc.
Some buy it to sell it later on again, but some also drink it.

Title: Re: Glenfiddich - 50 Year Old
Post by: BWS on November 23, 2012, 10:14:29 AM
+1 same as with classic cars reaching R90mil or old vintages of Chateau Lafite Rothchild/Petrus etc.
Some buy it to sell it later on again, but some also drink it.

So what would a spilt drop next to the glass cost ?
Title: Re: Glenfiddich - 50 Year Old
Post by: Stefan on November 23, 2012, 10:21:30 AM
^^^R16k a shot at the Cape Grace Hotel.
Title: Re: Glenfiddich - 50 Year Old
Post by: Mistro on November 23, 2012, 10:25:24 AM
^^^R16k a shot at the Cape Grace Hotel.

 :o A decent pair of speakers!
Title: Re: Glenfiddich - 50 Year Old
Post by: BWS on November 23, 2012, 10:42:29 AM
^^^R16k a shot at the Cape Grace Hotel.

Fisty cuffs if anyone bumps you and you spill :boxing:
Title: Re: Glenfiddich - 50 Year Old
Post by: oNyX on November 23, 2012, 02:45:01 PM
Just give me a Savanna or a Redd's. I don't care how many awards that whisky won.

 :EGrin:
Title: Re: Glenfiddich - 50 Year Old
Post by: Nick2 on November 23, 2012, 09:06:02 PM
Well heres, $2 Million – Henri IV, Cognac Grande Champagne......... 

 
Title: Re: Glenfiddich - 50 Year Old
Post by: oNyX on November 23, 2012, 10:03:40 PM
Well heres, $2 Million – Henri IV, Cognac Grande Champagne.........

 :sulky:

JC Le Roux is good enough for me.
Title: Re: Glenfiddich - 50 Year Old
Post by: santoshlv426 on November 24, 2012, 08:44:07 PM
If a guy can buy a R150K bottle of whiskey for investment, I'd like to see his house & car.
You guys would have read about "Enigma" in Business Day - the R300M house for sale in the Cape.
The servants quarters is bigger than my house !!!
Title: Re: Glenfiddich - 50 Year Old
Post by: oNyX on November 25, 2012, 12:55:57 AM
That happened to me before. It was Glenfiddich but not 50yr. Took a bottle with to a friend's place. He lived on the 1st floor and I was holding the container upside down unaware. At the top of the stairs the bottle slid out and it started rolling down and I chased after it. It broke before I could reach it. The rest of the day was miserable  :cr@p:

:Ooooooh:
Title: Re: Glenfiddich - 50 Year Old
Post by: zakes on November 29, 2012, 12:20:56 PM
 :sh1tstirrer: ...the whiskey experts will tell you that there's a huge difference between a 1 year old whiskey and 5 year old, and then there's a big diffeence between 5 year old and 12 year old, and then there's a not so big difference between a 12 year old and a an 18 year old, stialmost no difference between a 21 year old and an 18 year old. and the difference between a 30 year old and a 21 year old is indistinguishable, even less diference between 50 year old and 30 year old, but the price difference between these ages increases exponentially whilst the difference in quality dimnishes to almost none. having said that, I would like to posit that the same trend is equally applicable in audio, there's very little that a R1m system can do that for instance a R100k system wouldn't do!!! but hang on a minute, the best part is that there are some people who claim they can tell a difference between a 50 year old whiskey and a 30 year old whiskey, and not only that, they have dedicated their lives earnings to collecting 50 year old whiskeys!!!! I venture to think the same thing happens in audio! there are some people who claim to hear a difference between cables and have dedicated their lives earnings on collecting cables!!! even in whiskey there are self proclaimed gurus whose tastes are the benchmark for the industry, they analysie the whiskey to bits...after the first sip, the whiskey opens up and there are subtles flavors of apples and cinnamon, later the whiskey settles into banana and coffee and wild grass flavors rounding of to orange peel,tobacco, wood and earthy flavours....I used to fall for this BS, buying expensive wines looking for the flavours!!! I'll tell you what, after a few sips of any wine, I couldn't careless about subtle flavours and I couldn't detect any, once in a while I came across a wine that smelt of bananas or oranges or apples...but subtle flavours, my foot!!
Title: Re: Glenfiddich - 50 Year Old
Post by: BWS on November 29, 2012, 12:25:03 PM
:sh1tstirrer: ...the whiskey experts will tell you that there's a huge difference between a 1 year old whiskey and 5 year old, and then there's a big diffeence between 5 year old and 12 year old, and then there's a not so big difference between a 12 year old and a an 18 year old, stialmost no difference between a 21 year old and an 18 year old. and the difference between a 30 year old and a 21 year old is indistinguishable, even less diference between 50 year old and 30 year old

Agreed, try a 10 year old Bushmills single malt and try JW Blue, IMO the Bushmills klaps the JW and its only around R450 a bottle


Difference between a 12 and 18 year old ?  :thinking: Prison ?
Title: Re: Glenfiddich - 50 Year Old
Post by: GECO on November 29, 2012, 12:29:50 PM
:sh1tstirrer: ...the whiskey experts will tell you that there's a huge difference between a 1 year old whiskey and 5 year old,

no such thing as a 1 year old whisky. or a five year old for that matter. then they are classified as old beer.
Title: Re: Glenfiddich - 50 Year Old
Post by: TimbaLand on November 29, 2012, 12:53:17 PM
Agreed, try a 10 year old Bushmills single malt and try JW Blue, IMO the Bushmills klaps the JW and its only around R450 a bottle


Difference between a 12 and 18 year old ?  :thinking: Prison ?
Its personal taste but according to me Johny Walker is bad whiskey that has very goodmarketing behind it. Offer me JW and I will drink but I will never buy JW with money that I worked for irregardles of whether is Balck, Yellow, Blue< Green, etc
Title: Re: Glenfiddich - 50 Year Old
Post by: GECO on November 29, 2012, 01:00:05 PM
not so sure. the JW double black is pretty awesome.
Title: Re: Glenfiddich - 50 Year Old
Post by: TimbaLand on November 29, 2012, 01:01:53 PM
not so sure. the JW double black is pretty awesome.
I drank it 2 weeks ago after It was offered to me. Of allthe JW Kool aids I think its the best

The worst thing about JW is the after taste that lingers in the mouth. I would liken it to a sub that continues humming and thundering long after the explosion is gone
Title: Re: Glenfiddich - 50 Year Old
Post by: avi on November 29, 2012, 01:59:26 PM
Of all the whikey i've ever tasted, i think Jameson is one of the best.
Title: Re: Glenfiddich - 50 Year Old
Post by: Shonver on November 29, 2012, 01:59:42 PM
The worst thing about JW is the after taste that lingers in the mouth. I would liken it to a sub that continues humming and thundering long after the explosion is gone

LOL!

Call me unrefined, but I could never figure out what people like about whiskey/y/ie.
Title: Re: Glenfiddich - 50 Year Old
Post by: oNyX on November 29, 2012, 02:57:42 PM
LOL!

Call me unrefined, but I could never figure out what people like about whiskey/y/ie.

Me neither, when I tell people I only drink ciders, vodka and rum, they wanna know why I drink such weak alcohol.

Captain Morgan Spiced Gold, weak? Pffft.
Title: Re: Glenfiddich - 50 Year Old
Post by: TimbaLand on November 29, 2012, 03:48:35 PM
LOL!

Call me unrefined, but I could never figure out what people like about whiskey/y/ie.
I dont blame u. Its an acquired taste. Once u get the hang of it some whiskeys will even taste sweet.

The one thing I'll never subject myself and the people I kiss is beer.
Title: Re: Glenfiddich - 50 Year Old
Post by: Stefan on November 29, 2012, 04:21:56 PM
I used to fall for this BS, buying expensive wines looking for the flavours!!! I'll tell you what, after a few sips of any wine, I couldn't careless about subtle flavours and I couldn't detect any, once in a while I came across a wine that smelt of bananas or oranges or apples...but subtle flavours, my foot!!

Sorry to hear, but it's not BS! You just haven't developed your tastebuds or sense of smell.
It takes some exercise though to recognise all the flavours etc.
As for the difference between whiskey ages, well when it says 12 or 18 yo, it only means that the majority of the blend(unless it's a single malt) contains a whiskey or said age.
Same goes for brandy/cognac. But then the spirits also contain other flavourants and colourants that makes the difference between most blended whiskeys and brandies.
Also, wine doesn't need to be expensive to be any good. Only average wines will taste the same, but any decent one with enough complexity and depth will develope and 'open up' releasing different aromas. The flavour compounds are actually quantitive, unlike the audiophile jargon regarding cables etc.

I drank it 2 weeks ago after It was offered to me. Of allthe JW Kool aids I think its the best

The worst thing about JW is the after taste that lingers in the mouth. I would liken it to a sub that continues humming and thundering long after the explosion is gone

Careful with those statements, JW is a blended whiskey from different distilleries so if you say you dont dig it make sure you don't like other whiskeys which could be be almost the same stuff.
Me neither, when I tell people I only drink ciders, vodka and rum, they wanna know why I drink such weak alcohol.

Captain Morgan Spiced Gold, weak? Pffft.

Pfffft, Spiced Gold is like 30-something %alc v/v. That's what my blood alc % reads normally! :ROFLMAO:

A glass of wine(12-14%) is still stronger than a double brandy `n coke(~8%).
Title: Re: Glenfiddich - 50 Year Old
Post by: Gerhard on November 29, 2012, 07:08:38 PM
Of all the whikey i've ever tasted, i think Jameson is one of the best.

+1   :thumbs:
Title: Re: Glenfiddich - 50 Year Old
Post by: Mistro on November 29, 2012, 09:03:49 PM
Bushmills is a tough act to try follow  O0
Title: Re: Glenfiddich - 50 Year Old
Post by: zakes on November 30, 2012, 08:59:47 AM
I agree with you Stefan, it really takes training to make your brain believe what you want to believe. the question is why would I want to train myself to smell bananas in wine?! I think the point of good drink is to enjoy it, and not analyse it. If I taste wine and I like it, fine with me, i'm not going to measure the flavonoids or whatever makes the wine smell. same with audio, If I like a system, I'll enjoy it, I'm not going to spend hours mentally calculating how precise  the system is to the nanomillimeter.
Title: Re: Glenfiddich - 50 Year Old
Post by: TimbaLand on November 30, 2012, 09:01:47 AM
I agree with you Stefan, it really takes training to make your brain believe what you want to believe. the question is why would I want to train myself to smell bananas in wine?! I think the point of good drink is to enjoy it, and not analyse it. If I taste wine and I like it, fine with me, i'm not going to measure the flavonoids or whatever makes the wine smell. same with audio, If I like a system, I'll enjoy it, I'm not going to spend hours mentally calculating how precise  the system is to the nanomillimeter.
+1
Title: Re: Glenfiddich - 50 Year Old
Post by: vdL on November 30, 2012, 09:25:37 AM
I agree with you Stefan, it really takes training to make your brain believe what you want to believe. the question is why would I want to train myself to smell bananas in wine?! I think the point of good drink is to enjoy it, and not analyse it. If I taste wine and I like it, fine with me, i'm not going to measure the flavonoids or whatever makes the wine smell. same with audio, If I like a system, I'll enjoy it, I'm not going to spend hours mentally calculating how precise  the system is to the nanomillimeter.

 :teach:

Unlike cables which is a hotly debated topic, in wine an experienced wine taster can from taste pick out all the flavours, determine the vintage, persentage alcohol, which type of cask it was in, how long it was on wood, if it is a blend approximately the ratio of blends, the region from where it originated and sometimes even the specific farm. This is not some make believe bs. Your true wine experts are amazing.

Analysing a wine is part of the enjoyment. You try to find and taste all the flavours the winemaker implemented in the wine.  There is so much more to wine than just drinking it because it is alcohol. A fine wine is an experience.
Title: Re: Glenfiddich - 50 Year Old
Post by: BWS on November 30, 2012, 09:32:33 AM
A fine wine is an experience.

 :clap:

As is Whisk(e)y   :thumbs:
Title: Re: Glenfiddich - 50 Year Old
Post by: Mistro on November 30, 2012, 09:36:10 AM
At the end of the it's alcohol, you drink too much of it you'll be sweeping the floor.
Title: Re: Glenfiddich - 50 Year Old
Post by: Stefan on November 30, 2012, 09:38:27 AM
I agree with you Stefan, it really takes training to make your brain believe what you want to believe. the question is why would I want to train myself to smell bananas in wine?! I think the point of good drink is to enjoy it, and not analyse it. If I taste wine and I like it, fine with me, i'm not going to measure the flavonoids or whatever makes the wine smell. same with audio, If I like a system, I'll enjoy it, I'm not going to spend hours mentally calculating how precise  the system is to the nanomillimeter.

True, but it's conditioning. Not tricking your mind! Stimulating your senses and the pleasure derived from it is what it's all about. Probably the same reason why we like listening tovery good hifi setups compared to the game/makro specials.

:teach:

Unlike cables which is a hotly debated topic, in wine an experienced wine taster can from taste pick out all the flavours, determine the vintage, persentage alcohol, which type of cask it was in, how long it was on wood, if it is a blend approximately the ratio of blends, the region from where it originated and sometimes even the specific farm. This is not some make believe bs. Your true wine experts are amazing.

Analysing a wine is part of the enjoyment. You try to find and taste all the flavours the winemaker implemented in the wine.  There is so much more to wine than just drinking it because it is alcohol. A fine wine is an experience.

+1,

when I drink a good bottle of wine I actually wish to be able to drink more without getting drunk or have any of the effects of alcohol.
Title: Re: Glenfiddich - 50 Year Old
Post by: Stefan on November 30, 2012, 09:41:19 AM
:clap:

As is Whisk(e)y   :thumbs:

yes, but usually just 3 whiskeys for me. the heartburn usually from drinking it neat kills me after that.
Title: Re: Glenfiddich - 50 Year Old
Post by: BWS on November 30, 2012, 09:42:23 AM
yes, but usually just 3 whiskeys for me. the heartburn usually from drinking it neat kills me after that.

 :ROFLMAO: stay away from 3 Ships
Title: Re: Glenfiddich - 50 Year Old
Post by: Stefan on November 30, 2012, 09:44:00 AM
^^^hell no, that stuff gives me heartburn just looking at it.
Title: Re: Glenfiddich - 50 Year Old
Post by: vdL on November 30, 2012, 09:49:38 AM
:clap:

As is Whisk(e)y   :thumbs:

Indeed.

Give the Three Ships 10yo a try.

YES I KNOW IT IS THREE SHIPS, but it is really good. At R240 something a bottle it gives the JW Black 12yo a beating accoring to many! Multi award winner.
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-1pqIBmtuUd8/TfnVpkP9x6I/AAAAAAAAABk/nRFxU-5bGx4/s1600/Three%2BShips%2B10%2Byear%2Bold%2BSingle%2BMalt%2BTin%2BLR.jpg)
Title: Re: Glenfiddich - 50 Year Old
Post by: vdL on November 30, 2012, 09:55:23 AM
:ROFLMAO: stay away from 3 Ships

Read my previous post. Just TRY it! you'll be amazed!
Title: Re: Glenfiddich - 50 Year Old
Post by: BWS on November 30, 2012, 10:00:24 AM
Read my previous post. Just TRY it! you'll be amazed!

Thats pretty good I'm sure, I will try it, but its an aged single malt, I was refering to the normal blended battery acid that sells for R90
Title: Re: Glenfiddich - 50 Year Old
Post by: vdL on November 30, 2012, 10:03:00 AM
Thats pretty good I'm sure, I will try it, but its an aged single malt, I was refering to the normal blended battery acid that sells for R90

Yes I know! It is just sad the the 10yo is labeled as Three Ships. Most people hate the name because it is synonymous with the R80 rubbish. This is a really nice whiskey. If it was in a JW bottle it would have received very high praise.

Report back on your findings, or uhm  :facepalm:, tastings !
Title: Re: Glenfiddich - 50 Year Old
Post by: BWS on November 30, 2012, 10:04:43 AM
Whiskey is a very appropriate topic for this forum, as much like Audio, you become more and more discriminating as to what whiskey you drink and this becomes increasingly expensive. My daily dop is Bushmills, while its not through the roof expensive it certainly isn't under-a-hundred-rand bottle of hangover.
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: BWS on November 30, 2012, 10:06:10 AM
Thread renamed and stickied ! :thumbs:
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: vdL on November 30, 2012, 10:08:53 AM
 :Whoohoo:

 :flame: all whiskey haters!  :ROFLMAO:
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: TimbaLand on November 30, 2012, 10:09:27 AM
Im salivating already. This is nice sh*t. It sings in your mouth

(http://uploads.co.za/files/8yra5elf49kduawmt22t.jpg) (http://uploads.co.za/)
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: vdL on November 30, 2012, 10:09:54 AM
^^ Thats a thousand rand a bottle.  :headbanger:

I am going to go buy a bottle of Bushmills this weekend. Haven't given it a try!  O0
Title: Re: Glenfiddich - 50 Year Old
Post by: TimbaLand on November 30, 2012, 10:11:42 AM
Indeed.

Give the Three Ships 10yo a try.

YES I KNOW IT IS THREE SHIPS, but it is really good. At R240 something a bottle it gives the JW Black 12yo a beating accoring to many! Multi award winner.
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-1pqIBmtuUd8/TfnVpkP9x6I/AAAAAAAAABk/nRFxU-5bGx4/s1600/Three%2BShips%2B10%2Byear%2Bold%2BSingle%2BMalt%2BTin%2BLR.jpg)
Dromedaris; Reijger and Goede Hoop. Those were Jan Van Riebeek's 3 ships. Terrible headache
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Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: Stefan on November 30, 2012, 10:21:09 AM
^^ Thats a thousand rand a bottle.  :headbanger:

I am going to go buy a bottle of Bushmills this weekend. Haven't given it a try!  O0

Try the Bushmills "black-ish label too. Can't recall the exact name, but something black. Also very nice!

Got a bottle of Laphroiag, Chivas and Glen Fiddich that needs their seals broken. Finally I'm getting decent bday prezzies! LOL
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: TimbaLand on November 30, 2012, 10:25:13 AM

Got a bottle of Laphroiag
Whats yo address
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: BWS on November 30, 2012, 10:25:29 AM


I am going to go buy a bottle of Bushmills this weekend. Haven't given it a try!  O0

You'll never look back, the Irish invented whiskey so they know what they're doing
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: Flash. on November 30, 2012, 10:54:08 AM
You'll never look back, the Irish invented whiskey so they know what they're doing

They may have distilled the first bottle but if were not for the distilling techniques borrowed from the Chinese, they would still be drinking barley beer.. :)
Title: Re: Glenfiddich - 50 Year Old
Post by: Flash. on November 30, 2012, 11:05:19 AM
At the end of the it's alcohol, you drink too much of it you'll be sweeping the floor.

 :BWAHAHAH:

So true..
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: Stefan on November 30, 2012, 11:05:41 AM
I think it was the Greeks that started the whole distillation thing, although the western world did borrow a lot of things from the Chinese, such as gunpowder. Kinda ironic that they can only copy everything else today.
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: Flash. on November 30, 2012, 11:06:43 AM
Try the Bushmills "black-ish label too. Can't recall the exact name, but something black. Also very nice!


Black Bush.. :thumbs:
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: Flash. on November 30, 2012, 11:07:34 AM
I think it was the Greeks that started the whole distillation thing, although the western world did borrow a lot of things from the Chinese, such as gunpowder. Kinda ironic that they can only copy everything else today.

I could be wrong but that's what i heard.. :)
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: Stefan on November 30, 2012, 11:09:48 AM
Black Bush.. :thumbs:

LOL, yeah that's it. Could've googled it, but I'm just too lazy today for this temperamental pc.
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: Flash. on November 30, 2012, 11:14:37 AM
For all the haters and so called connoisseurs that flame sub R100 +/- whiskys as rubbish", I have a challenge for you..

At any one point in time i have more than 30 bottles of whisky at home ranging from blends to 21 year old single cask single malts. I'll set up a blind taste test and if you can separate the single malts from the blends, each of you will get a bottle of single malt that you have correctly identified..

If you cant, then you buy me the same...

Anyone willing to play..??

One thing is for sure,  i will show you what snake oil in the whisky world really is..

Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: BWS on November 30, 2012, 11:21:26 AM
For all the haters and so called connoisseurs that flame sub R100 +/- whiskys as rubbish", I have a challenge for you..

At any one point in time i have more than 30 bottles of whisky at home ranging from blends to 21 year old single cask single malts. I'll set up a blind taste test and if you can separate the single malts from the blends, each of you will get a bottle of single malt that you have correctly identified..

If you cant, then you buy me the same...

Anyone willing to play..??

One thing is for sure,  i will show you what snake oil in the whisky world really is..

Absolutely nothing wrong with a blended whiskey, many of which knock the pants off single malts and not for stupid money either.
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: vdL on November 30, 2012, 11:30:40 AM
We never flamed blended vs single malt.
Rather sub R100 vs R200+
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: Stefan on November 30, 2012, 11:39:19 AM
For all the haters and so called connoisseurs that flame sub R100 +/- whiskys as rubbish", I have a challenge for you..

At any one point in time i have more than 30 bottles of whisky at home ranging from blends to 21 year old single cask single malts. I'll set up a blind taste test and if you can separate the single malts from the blends, each of you will get a bottle of single malt that you have correctly identified..

If you cant, then you buy me the same...

Anyone willing to play..??

One thing is for sure,  i will show you what snake oil in the whisky world really is..



Where you from?

I don't think I'd be able to distinguish between a blended or single malt whiskey. But if you give me, say 10 whiskeys to taste, I could probably identify which is which in a blind test.
Personally I think single malts are no better that blended whiskeys. For me, I prefer the Islay's and Speyside whiskeys whether it's single malt or blended.

Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: TimbaLand on November 30, 2012, 11:46:16 AM
For all the haters and so called connoisseurs that flame sub R100 +/- whiskys as rubbish", I have a challenge for you..

At any one point in time i have more than 30 bottles of whisky at home ranging from blends to 21 year old single cask single malts. I'll set up a blind taste test and if you can separate the single malts from the blends, each of you will get a bottle of single malt that you have correctly identified..

If you cant, then you buy me the same...

Anyone willing to play..??

One thing is for sure,  i will show you what snake oil in the whisky world really is..
Date, place and time.
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: Flash. on November 30, 2012, 12:06:13 PM
Absolutely nothing wrong with a blended whiskey, many of which knock the pants off single malts and not for stupid money either.

Precisely... :thumbs:
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: Flash. on November 30, 2012, 12:07:36 PM
Where you from?

I don't think I'd be able to distinguish between a blended or single malt whiskey. But if you give me, say 10 whiskeys to taste, I could probably identify which is which in a blind test.
Personally I think single malts are no better that blended whiskeys. For me, I prefer the Islay's and Speyside whiskeys whether it's single malt or blended.

JHB..

Did you mean which province or where in JHB..?? :thinking:
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: Flash. on November 30, 2012, 12:08:34 PM
Date, place and time.

Sounds like you jumped right out of your pants when you read that.. :ROFLMAO:
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: GECO on November 30, 2012, 01:16:10 PM
Where you from?

I don't think I'd be able to distinguish between a blended or single malt whiskey. But if you give me, say 10 whiskeys to taste, I could probably identify which is which in a blind test.
Personally I think single malts are no better that blended whiskeys. For me, I prefer the Islay's and Speyside whiskeys whether it's single malt or blended.

I think we share similar tastes.


here is one that would threw me. just recently i tried Grants for the first time. i was pleasantly surprised. from now on i will always have a bottle on hand.
and I say this with 2 x laphroaig 2 glenmorangie 2 JW double black 1 x glenlivet 1 x the speyside 1 glenfidich in the cupboard


I see I need to get rid of some premier audio kits and collect some audio tax to fill her up again
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: GearSlave on November 30, 2012, 01:28:23 PM
here is one that would threw me. just recently i tried Grants for the first time.

I said it before on this very forum when we all had this last debate  ;) In my mind I believe Grants and Glenfiddich comes from the same distillery. The fact that they taste very similar and that the bottles are exactly the same unique shape makes it real hard to think otherwise.
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: GECO on November 30, 2012, 01:34:07 PM
i find grants sweeter but without the smokey after taste of the glenfidich. but It could very well be

but what makes it so extra special. it is currently R109 at checkers liquor shop
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: BWS on November 30, 2012, 01:37:46 PM
I said it before on this very forum when we all had this last debate  ;) In my mind I believe Grants and Glenfiddich comes from the same distillery. The fact that they taste very similar and that the bottles are exactly the same unique shape makes it real hard to think otherwise.

Much like 100 Pipers was originally blended by Chivas.
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: Crafty on November 30, 2012, 01:42:30 PM
Absolutely nothing wrong with a blended whiskey, many of which knock the pants off single malts and not for stupid money either.
Although some blends sell not on taste but name.
Chivas comes to mind. Chivas is REALLY not that great.... yet many rave over it...

My all time fav!
Irish Mist. (Am I allowed to call this a whiskey?)
Just don't indulge too much, unless you wanna wake up with a sledge hammer stuck inside your brain. Where the hangover gets mistaken for a full grade migraine!
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: GECO on November 30, 2012, 01:48:36 PM
but with all these whisky talk.
some people still insist on saying, " give that man a bells" as a complement..............the biggest insult if ever i have heard one.  :thinking:  :nutter:
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: GECO on November 30, 2012, 01:50:23 PM

here is one that would threw me. just recently i tried Grants for the first time. i was pleasantly surprised. from now on i will always have a bottle on hand.
and I say this with 2 x laphroaig 2 glenmorangie 2 JW double black 1 x glenlivet 1 x the speyside 1 glenfidich in the cupboard


jeez. i nearly forgot. the bottle of JW blue .....
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: Stefan on November 30, 2012, 01:56:17 PM
I think we share similar tastes.


here is one that would threw me. just recently i tried Grants for the first time. i was pleasantly surprised. from now on i will always have a bottle on hand.
and I say this with 2 x laphroaig 2 glenmorangie 2 JW double black 1 x glenlivet 1 x the speyside 1 glenfidich in the cupboard


I see I need to get rid of some premier audio kits and collect some audio tax to fill her up again

 :thumbs:

A whiskey which also surprised was Famous Grouse and Black Grouse. Better value for money!


But my all time favorite is Lagavulin. Thanx to AudioBug(Gylton) for sharing his knowlegde!!

Laphroiag
Talisker
Glen Morangie - quinta ruban - matured in port casks
Bunnahabhain
Caol Ila - which is predominantly used in JW Black Label which I also like.
J&B Jet - dig this!
Aberlour :thumbs:
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: GECO on November 30, 2012, 02:14:43 PM
yep like them all and share your sentiment with regards to famous grous.
think you will love JW double black.

the lagavulin eludes me. will have to make it a must for the next one to take a dulcet.
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: BWS on November 30, 2012, 02:20:30 PM
My fav list

1.Bushmills
2.Bushmills 10 yr single
3.Erin's Eisle (when available)
4.Glen Grant 10yr single
5.Tullamore Dew
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: santoshlv426 on November 30, 2012, 02:33:24 PM
I'm quite chaffed to see that my Glenfiddich thread has sparked much conversation on Whiskey.  :thumbs:

Clearly I'm with some well healed company. From the Whiskey's I've tasted to date, here's my list

1. JW - blue Label (only had a 375ml bottle once, but fantastic)
2. Chivas Regal 18 year
3. JW Green Label (15 Year)
4. Glenfiddich 12 Year old.

If I had the money, I'd always keep a bottle of Drambuie handy. It's turned out to be what I purchase over std. Whiskey.

Due to the current local prices of the likes of Glenfiddich, Glenlevaat, JW etc,I'm thinking of trying out Three ships. It's award winning and local.

Has anyone tasted this ? What's your opinion compared to the above ??

Santosh
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: Crafty on November 30, 2012, 02:34:22 PM
This:
(http://i1167.photobucket.com/albums/q637/millythepooh/WhiskyTopia/Glenfiddich/Glenfiddich%201/Glenfiddich1-1T.jpg) Or (http://www.drinkhacker.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/irish-mist.jpg)
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: TimbaLand on November 30, 2012, 03:20:04 PM
Although some blends sell not on taste but name.
Chivas comes to mind. Chivas is REALLY not that great.... yet many rave over it...

My all time fav!
Irish Mist. (Am I allowed to call this a whiskey?)
Just don't indulge too much, unless you wanna wake up with a sledge hammer stuck inside your brain. Where the hangover gets mistaken for a full grade migraine!


1000
Chivas is kak
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: BWS on December 01, 2012, 08:45:36 AM
I see Makro has James King 12yr old blend on sale at R149, its a decent 12yr for the price with much worse out there
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: adie on December 01, 2012, 09:09:18 AM


Due to the current local prices of the likes of Glenfiddich, Glenlevaat, JW etc,I'm thinking of trying out Three ships. It's award winning and local.

Has anyone tasted this ? What's your opinion compared to the above ??

Santosh

I am hooked on the new 5 year old Three Ships.
Smokey and smooth. Currently about @123 at PnP. Previously went for Famous Grouse in that price bracket.
Try it, you'll like it!
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: Crafty on December 01, 2012, 12:55:36 PM
So, on page 1, we discussed R150K booze, and now on page 6 we are on R100 booze... in the next couple of pages we gonna be on 1st watch?
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: Flash. on December 03, 2012, 08:24:45 AM
I have had alot of single malts and single cask single malts but recently (over the last year) its the many blends on the market that interest me.

These below are among my favorites and most surprising as I have seen them on the liquor store shelves but always passed them over as inferior. But they are anything but inferior, inferior in price compared to single malts but hardly in taste..

1. Ballantines

2. Teachers Highland Cream (blended from only malt whiskies)

3. Cutty Sark

4. Black and White

5. Clan Murray (Benriach house blend)

6. Vat 69


They range from R90 to R130 odd. If you are brave enough to try any one of the above, I promise you wont be disappointed..

Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: frikkie on December 03, 2012, 11:59:53 AM
I've recently discovered Black & White, and was very surprised at how good it actually is. Most things in that proce range is paraffin - not so the B&W.

It's smooth enough to drink neat on the rocks, with a very pleasant lingering aftertaste; but also cheap enough to get trashed on, or mix with your favorite chaser, or whatever.
It's my new favorite everyday whisky.

When I want to sip & savour, it's always the good single-malts I return to, every time.

Someone mentioned JW Blue earlier. My GF got given a bottle around a year ago - try as I might (and we did try - neat, on the rocks, splash of water) I find it average at best. It's not rubbish, but there is much, much better available at a fraction of the Blue's price.
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: Flash. on December 03, 2012, 01:23:16 PM
I've recently discovered Black & White, and was very surprised at how good it actually is. Most things in that proce range is paraffin - not so the B&W.

It's smooth enough to drink neat on the rocks, with a very pleasant lingering aftertaste; but also cheap enough to get trashed on, or mix with your favorite chaser, or whatever.
It's my new favorite everyday whisky.

When I want to sip & savour, it's always the good single-malts I return to, every time.

Someone mentioned JW Blue earlier. My GF got given a bottle around a year ago - try as I might (and we did try - neat, on the rocks, splash of water) I find it average at best. It's not rubbish, but there is much, much better available at a fraction of the Blue's price.

Agreed... :thumbs:
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: GinoA on December 03, 2012, 04:00:17 PM
Quote
3. Cutty Sark
That one surprised me too,really enjoy it. Where did it come from? Can't remember seeing it on the shelves last year
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: Flash. on December 04, 2012, 10:16:20 AM
That one surprised me too,really enjoy it. Where did it come from? Can't remember seeing it on the shelves last year

Launched in SA around 3 months ago only... :winkwink:
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: Flash. on December 04, 2012, 10:18:27 AM
Oh, forgot to mention - two of the many malts used in the blend are The Macallan and Highland Park..  ;)
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: BWS on December 04, 2012, 10:19:50 AM


Someone mentioned JW Blue earlier. My GF got given a bottle around a year ago - try as I might (and we did try - neat, on the rocks, splash of water) I find it average at best. It's not rubbish, but there is much, much better available at a fraction of the Blue's price.

Its just like a BMW X6, a show-off status symbol thats actually pretty poor for money you spend and yet it still sells :whistler:
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: ArtiB on December 04, 2012, 11:37:23 AM
My all time fav!
Irish Mist. (Am I allowed to call this a whiskey?)

Yes you can.  Everyone else around here has been referring mostly to scotch as "whiskey" which it is not - it is "whisky"! Okay, call me pedantic....... ;)
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: vdL on December 04, 2012, 11:42:55 AM
Bought a Bottle of Bushmills Black Bush. Will give it a try tonight!  :clap:
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: BWS on December 04, 2012, 11:48:02 AM
Yes you can.  Everyone else around here has been referring mostly to scotch as "whiskey" which it is not - it is "whisky"! Okay, call me pedantic....... ;)

Whiskey > Whisky

 :sh1tstirrer:
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: Mistro on December 04, 2012, 12:15:23 PM
Bought a Bottle of Bushmills Black Bush. Will give it a try tonight!  :clap:

And you won't regret it, never. Just got another bottle this past Saturday. If you like the Blachk Bush, you gonna love the 10YO single malt and all their other offers, even the  White Label is not bad, not at all.  :clap:
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: Flash. on December 05, 2012, 12:49:55 PM
Most Irish whiskies are triple distilled so there is rarely a bad Irish whisky, if any at all..
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: BWS on December 11, 2012, 12:10:04 PM
HEADS UP !!


Cape Makro stores have Bushmills 10YO on special for R399.00 - a bliksems se good price  :thumbs: I would assume the rest of the coutry would have the same special
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: avflarkit on December 18, 2012, 11:13:29 AM
Nice to see quite a few 'whiskey' fans about.

My all-time favourite "go-to" is regular "Tullamore Dew", it's a sweeter, easy-drinking whiskey that works really well splashed on the rocks, or mixed, or even in a coffee. I bought the 10yr old and found it slightly harsher.

I've tried a few other Irish whiskies, from the Jameson range (regular, 12yr old, and Special Reserve), but I have slight bias against the brand. Bushmills is ok, but doesn't get me smiling like Tullamore does. Connemara Peated Single Malt is surprisingly tasty. Also gave Wild Geese "Rare Irish" a try and it was so-so. I haven't tried Powers yet and I'm very curious.

From the "scotch" blends, Grants is my fave. Also sweeter, easy drinking variety. Most others are too harsh for me.

Single malts? I've tried a few, from basic Glenfiddich 12yr old to Lagavullin, Old Pultney, Bunnahabhain 15yr old, Glen Morangie, Laphroaig (!!) and a few I forget. The only one (so far) that I've gone out and bought for myself, is Ardbeg, which has a coffee note that makes me happy.

Usually I get a pricier bottle over December, but Flash's post has me intrigued about the often-skipped varieties  :thinking:
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: BWS on March 30, 2013, 09:16:22 AM
Nice to see quite a few 'whiskey' fans about.

My all-time favourite "go-to" is regular "Tullamore Dew", it's a sweeter, easy-drinking whiskey that works really well splashed on the rocks, or mixed, or even in a coffee. I bought the 10yr old and found it slightly harsher.


Agreed, the 'regular' Dew is better IMO

I'm currently drinking a bottle of Bains, not bad for SA whisky but a tad overpriced
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: deonk2000 on March 30, 2013, 09:19:59 AM
Anyone into home distilling? Not much of a whiskey drinker, but I'd like to try my hand at making a still.  Dop
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: mahleu on March 30, 2013, 09:43:20 AM
Bains just won best grain whisky in the world. And the price has almost doubled from R90 when I bought my first bottle.
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: adie on March 30, 2013, 11:12:03 PM
Bains/ 3 Ships- same (Sedgwicks) distillery in Wellington.
And of course 3 Ships 5YO won best blended whisky last year in London
I think you'll find Bains has trebled Matt.
Currently trying 3 Ships 10YO single malt.
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: vdL on March 31, 2013, 08:21:21 AM
Bains just won best grain whisky in the world. And the price has almost doubled from R90 when I bought my first bottle.

My brother is friends with someone who makes the whiskey and he said it is too expensive at the moment. They are looking at dropping the price.
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: shrek on April 01, 2013, 08:18:51 AM
Just as a matter of interest; recently I was gifted with the latest creation from Johnny Walker, which as far as I am aware is not available locally yet, but no doubts it will soon come to these shores.
The Explorer's Series.!
Three whiskeys celebration three of the most famous trade routes, namely: The Spice Road, The Silk Road & (if I'm not mistaken) The Saharan Road (or something to that effect).
The most fascinating aspect I found was that when we think everybody has already done everything and anything possible with whiskeys, here comes Johnny Walker with something completely different and totally yummy.
I got the "luscious" Spice Route and can't wait to lay my hands on the other two.

Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: JayMac on April 11, 2013, 03:58:56 PM
Hi all,
It is also interesting to see if your favourite whiskies are 'clustered'. By thus I mean if you look at the flavour map of (OK only a limited numbner of single malts) on

www.malts.com/var/plain_site/storage/original/application/856a56fb5d8b39d5f1e6f6832ba2c8eb.pdf

you see more easily which style of the juice suits you the best. I happen to loke the ones at the top of the map 'Smoky', or the ones on the right 'Rich'.

An excellent introduction to the richer ones is Singleton of Dufftown.
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: Deezil on April 27, 2013, 07:10:18 AM
Interesting thread. Nice chart ^^^

I'm really trying to get into this whisky thing (you know, culture up a bit and all that) but honestly I'm struggling. Years and years of sweet and bitter stuff (good old brannas and the occasional G&T) must have destroyed the taste buds. Had a double Jameson the other evening (best that was on hand at a work function) and did what I understand is the correct approach when trying something new ...

Sipped neat ... not bad, I think. Tad warm though.
Added block of ice and swirled a bit in glass ... actually half decent taste. Could sip on this for a while. If forced at gunpoint.
Added splash of water to experience the change in character ... not as good as neat. Maybe add more water?
Added more water ... flippen gross. Vile dirty water. Nearly choked.
Added lemonade ... Ah much better. Downed the tumbler. Went back to KWV.

On a serious note. Could it be the water that destroyed the taste? Is Jameson's simply impartial to water? Is it me and my toasted taste buds? 

I really want to go out and buy myself a bottle of Scotch (or Irish if be) which is something I haven't done in about 20 years ... should I look for something like one of the "excellent" cheaper blends mentioned in this thread or rather a entry-level malt in the sub R400 region to start my journey? My ultimate aim is to find something decent that I can enjoy while relaxing to music after work every now and then (not a get schlossed every 2nd evening type thing, that's why I have brannas in the cupboard :roll:)

I'm probably over analysing as I usually do. Just go buy a different bottle every month ...  I'm pretty sure I'll get something I like before I retire one day.  Dop
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: GECO on April 27, 2013, 07:18:39 AM
Buy yourself a bottle of Talisker 10yr. try it for a few evenings.  If you dont like it the I will buy it from you

Jameson is very bland

Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: GearSlave on April 27, 2013, 08:02:28 AM
Personally I'd start with a bottle of Glenfiddich, it's very easy on the palate. You want to have this in a tumbler, with a few blocks of ice and a splash of water.

The initial sip will be like an explosion of that malty goodness, setting the scene for the rest of that golden honey to follow. You don't want to down it, rather sipping carefully at each and every drop, savouring the taste and thanking whatever God you believe in for gracing you with such an incredible gift. You have a momentary feeling of sadness as you finish the glass, but perk up the moment your eyes scan the bottle, relief washing over you as you realise the ultimate ecstasy is only another shot away.

You owe it to yourself to try ;)
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: BWS on April 27, 2013, 08:07:08 AM
Personally I'd start with a bottle of Glenfiddich, it's very easy on the palate. You want to have this in a tumbler, with a few blocks of ice and a splash of water.

The initial sip will be like an explosion of that malty goodness, setting the scene for the rest of that golden honey to follow. You don't want to down it, rather sipping carefully at each and every drop, savouring the taste and thanking whatever God you believe in for gracing you with such an incredible gift. You have a momentary feeling of sadness as you finish the glass, but perk up the moment your eyes scan the bottle, relief washing over you as you realise the ultimate ecstasy is only another shot away.

You owe it to yourself to try ;)

 :facepalm: now I feel like a shot of Bushmills
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: Deezil on April 27, 2013, 01:57:59 PM
Single Malt it is then ... Talisker slightly out of my range at R500+ a pop. Glenfiddich at about R350 is definitely more affordable but currently I'm eyeing either a Glenmorangie 10 or Singleton 12, both of them come in at just a tad over R300 (329 to be precise) and both seem to have a very middle of the road neutral taste according to that chart post earlier.

Will give feedback later. I'm off to the bottle store.
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: GECO on April 27, 2013, 02:01:13 PM
Buy some grants and work your way up. R130 a bottle
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: Flash. on April 29, 2013, 02:10:42 PM
Personally I'd start with a bottle of Glenfiddich, it's very easy on the palate. You want to have this in a tumbler, with a few blocks of ice and a splash of water.



You going to dilute the whisky.

A splash of water, yes, but not more than a drop or two and definitely no ice..

Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: TimbaLand on April 29, 2013, 05:55:38 PM
Single Malt it is then ... Talisker slightly out of my range at R500+ a pop. Glenfiddich at about R350 is definitely more affordable but currently I'm eyeing either a Glenmorangie 10 or Singleton 12, both of them come in at just a tad over R300 (329 to be precise) and both seem to have a very middle of the road neutral taste according to that chart post earlier.

Will give feedback later. I'm off to the bottle store.
Ive been a big imbiber of Glenfidich but for almost a year now Im enjoying Glenmorangie especially the 18 years. Very smooth
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: GearSlave on April 29, 2013, 08:06:46 PM
You going to dilute the whisky.

A splash of water, yes, but not more than a drop or two and definitely no ice..

Hehe, you are wrong! ;D
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: Flash. on April 30, 2013, 12:43:47 PM
Hehe, you are wrong! ;D

Ok... :)
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: BWS on April 30, 2013, 12:47:26 PM
Hehe, you are wrong! ;D

Ok... :)

You are both wrong :point:

2 fingers Whiskey
2 fingers water
2 ice blocks

 :thumbs:
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: frikkie on April 30, 2013, 01:18:38 PM
Drink your whiskey the way you prefer it - there is no right or wrong way.

Add ice if you want. Add water if you want. Mix your Johnny Blue with Coke if you want!

It's your whiskey - drink it the way you like it.
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: Dennis on April 30, 2013, 02:05:04 PM
Just been looking through the old CDs at the back of my cupboard.
At the bottom was one called "The Only Jazz Album You'll Ever Need".

And they were f*cking right.
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: Mistro on April 30, 2013, 02:30:45 PM
J Walker - Double Black - too nice!!
Title: Re: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: GECO on April 30, 2013, 02:31:54 PM
J Walker - Double Black - too nice!!
+1
Title: Re: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: TimbaLand on May 06, 2013, 01:31:02 PM
+1
I hate Johnie Walker but I enjoyed this one
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: BWS on May 08, 2013, 02:18:43 PM
Would love to 'Add to Basket'   :point: :faint:

http://www.thewhiskyexchange.com/selection/macallan_1928_50_yo_whisky.aspx
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: BWS on May 09, 2013, 03:31:46 PM
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Check No. 1

http://simplyscotches.blogspot.co.uk/2011/01/top-10-most-expensive-scotch-in-world.html
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: SS100 on May 09, 2013, 09:29:05 PM
Mods,
I would like to lodge an official complaint about BWS's avatar.
I can't get it to zoom out.  :sulky:
R.
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: ballistic on May 11, 2013, 06:59:37 PM
I'm no longer a drinker but thought I'd share this with you guys. Quite a few years back, my uncle from Vredenburgh, who used to work at sea came home with this little tree that he planted in the garden. Now every so now and then we'd go down to visit and the man would break off a branch of this tree the night before and place it in a glass jar and seal it. The next day this piece of branch would have little crystals hanging on it. He'd shake it off and dilute it with a litre of water. My donder, 2 glasses of this stuff was enough to knock my ou and uncle out solid for the night. And my dad was a 2 litre a week whisky man (so yes, I never had blood in my viens when I was born, but alcohol). We would watch as they finished the second glass and slowly start talking less and less. And like 10 mins later they would be out. Up unto today I've tried finding out about this damn tree. Nobody seems to know where to get it. If my memory serves me correct, I seem to remember something about Portugal. So if there is any Porta's on the forum that know anything about it then pls share :-)

One more thing, and you guys should try this. Take any fruit that can hold a liquid. Like apples, oranges, watermelon, naartjies etc. Cut into bight size cubes, place it in a large sealable plastic dish. Add your favourite alcoholic spirit or whatever tickles ur fancy. These work well, vodka, whisky, brandy and gin. Fill it to the brim, close the lid, make sure it's sealed properly, wrap it in newspaper and then plastic and place about 10-15 cm underground in direct sunlight (works very well in summer or very hot locations) Leave for as long as you can resist it (pref 2 weeks). After that, take out carefully so as not to get dirt in there, eat, enjoy and get sloshed.   
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: ish on May 16, 2013, 09:42:45 AM
I dont usually drink whisky and have a brandy occasionally. Love my beer. In fact Johnny Walker is wasted on me
(I prefer Jameson anyway). So I think it will be useful to share experience with having a good drink without spending a fortune on expensive brands. For example yesterday I tried out a 10 yr old Richelieu and it was one of the best brandys I have had. Had the fire going , Pink Floyd in the background, and darn nearly finished the bottle between two of us.
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: ish on May 16, 2013, 10:09:59 AM
I'm no longer a drinker but thought I'd share this with you guys. Quite a few years back, my uncle from Vredenburgh, who used to work at sea came home with this little tree that he planted in the garden. Now every so now and then we'd go down to visit and the man would break off a branch of this tree the night before and place it in a glass jar and seal it. The next day this piece of branch would have little crystals hanging on it. He'd shake it off and dilute it with a litre of water. My donder, 2 glasses of this stuff was enough to knock my ou and uncle out solid for the night. And my dad was a 2 litre a week whisky man (so yes, I never had blood in my viens when I was born, but alcohol). We would watch as they finished the second glass and slowly start talking less and less. And like 10 mins later they would be out. Up unto today I've tried finding out about this damn tree. Nobody seems to know where to get it. If my memory serves me correct, I seem to remember something about Portugal. So if there is any Porta's on the forum that know anything about it then pls share :-)

One more thing, and you guys should try this. Take any fruit that can hold a liquid. Like apples, oranges, watermelon, naartjies etc. Cut into bight size cubes, place it in a large sealable plastic dish. Add your favourite alcoholic spirit or whatever tickles ur fancy. These work well, vodka, whisky, brandy and gin. Fill it to the brim, close the lid, make sure it's sealed properly, wrap it in newspaper and then plastic and place about 10-15 cm underground in direct sunlight (works very well in summer or very hot locations) Leave for as long as you can resist it (pref 2 weeks). After that, take out carefully so as not to get dirt in there, eat, enjoy and get sloshed.

It May be an Anise Tree
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mastika
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: 147GTA on May 16, 2013, 10:24:14 PM
10 yr old Richelieu and it was one of the best brandys I have had. Had the fire going , Pink Floyd in the background, and darn nearly finished the bottle between two of us.

Sounds great. I definately prefer brandies these days as well.   South Africa makes amazing brandy
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: Rotten Johnny on May 19, 2013, 10:48:58 PM
No whiskey fundi myself, just found a tullamore dew 12 yo single malt finished in a sherry cask (JD single barrel is finished). Poured a tot of so into a glass with ice and took a sip :o this stuff supposed to be any good?
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: Atjan on May 19, 2013, 11:05:29 PM
Bit of a bitter after taste?
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: Rotten Johnny on May 19, 2013, 11:08:20 PM
Makes me think of soap,wouldn't say bitter.
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: Rotten Johnny on May 19, 2013, 11:09:50 PM
It's a liter bottle - that's a lot of Irish coffee.
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: Atjan on May 19, 2013, 11:20:30 PM
I bought a regular bottle of the (regular not 12yr) stuff and seriously....I could have done better. Its got this bitter thing sitting in the back of your mouth that just doesn't want to go away.
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: BWS on May 20, 2013, 07:24:50 AM
2 recent acquisitions this weekend

James  King 12 year old speyside single malt, R199 at Makro

and

One of Fav's : Macallan 10 yr old, this stuff truly is nectar of the gods
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: adie on May 24, 2013, 08:34:04 PM
Happy Daze! 10 yr old Three Ships- not as smooth as I would like.
Now Connemara 12 yr old Aahhh!
With Roy Buchanan's mellower stuff playing.

Slightly off-topic, but I have a bottle of really good sherry (have tasted it) by a British company that no longer exists. I got this off the lead seal and Googled a couple of years ago. Can't remember the name, but this bottle was given to my folks as a wedding present in the 1940's.
Broke the cork just now, so will have to wait for a likeminded pal to come over so we can klap it.  ;D
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: Atjan on May 27, 2013, 08:29:54 PM
 :facepalm:

(https://imageshack.us/scaled/large/69/monkeyandcameltoe.png)

(https://imageshack.us/scaled/large/4/whathasbeenseen823.jpg)
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: psychz on May 31, 2013, 10:24:54 AM
:facepalm:

(https://imageshack.us/scaled/large/69/monkeyandcameltoe.png)

(https://imageshack.us/scaled/large/4/whathasbeenseen823.jpg)

Hahaha :P


Had some famous grouse last night... Stay away! Run if you must! Id rather have three ships than that.
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: SS100 on May 31, 2013, 08:34:20 PM
Mods,
I'd would like to lodge an official complaint about BWS's avatar.
It's not the real thing.  :baseball:

Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: BWS on June 01, 2013, 11:47:35 AM
Hahaha :P


Had some famous grouse last night... Stay away! Run if you must! Id rather have three ships than that.

Therein lies the problem, much like our quest for audio nirvana, The quest for better and better whisk(e)y has one buying more and more expensive bottles. In my case there's nothing under R200/bottle that I will even consider, not because I'm a whisk(e)y snob, merely that you develop a finer appreciation for good whisky. My current favorites are The Macallan 10 and 12 yr old, R400 and R500 respectively. And they don't last long :facepalm:
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: Roux28 on June 02, 2013, 12:31:51 PM
I attended an Ardbeg tasting last night to celebrate worldwide "Ardbog Day".  Six Ardbegs were trotted out, including Galileo, current "Best Whisky in the World", as well as Corryvreckan and Supernova - the best whisky I have ever tasted.

I walked away with a bottle of Ardbeg 10 year old.  Islay whisky rules!

(http://ard-shop-media.s3.amazonaws.com/catalog/product/cache/1/image/f63dc5ec28f3175f8a7f615bd217eb71/f/i/file_6.jpg)
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: TimbaLand on June 05, 2013, 02:26:13 PM
Therein lies the problem, much like our quest for audio nirvana, The quest for better and better whisk(e)y has one buying more and more expensive bottles. In my case there's nothing under R200/bottle that I will even consider, not because I'm a whisk(e)y snob, merely that you develop a finer appreciation for good whisky. My current favorites are The Macallan 10 and 12 yr old, R400 and R500 respectively. And they don't last long :facepalm:

I agree with you a 1000%. Most whiskeys are good until you taste better once so at the beginning of your whiskey drinking career most whiskeys are fine but they loose favour when you start tasting the more mature ones
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: Atjan on June 06, 2013, 02:07:42 PM
Its a bit like audio. You always know there's better out there than what you have. The trick is to want what you have.  :angel:
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: GECO on June 06, 2013, 02:33:34 PM
the trick is to re-invent the way that you get your whisky.
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: BWS on June 06, 2013, 02:34:18 PM
the trick is to re-invent the way that you get your whisky.

Get a copper still ? :point:
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: andredt on June 12, 2013, 04:49:00 PM
Makro have a nice special on Bottle of JW blue for 1900 plus you get a bottle of gold for FREE.
I only drink blue when I have people that appreciate whiskey over and my bottle is almost done so I will go get a bottle.

Any one tried the James king range of whiskeys? I Bought a bottle the other day and it wasn't bad for a R100 bottle of whiskey. Was the blue 5yo bottle.

My long time favourite for a nightly drink stays JW black.
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: BWS on June 13, 2013, 07:29:52 AM
Makro have a nice special on Bottle of JW blue for 1900 plus you get a bottle of gold for FREE.
I only drink blue when I have people that appreciate whiskey over and my bottle is almost done so I will go get a bottle.

Any one tried the James king range of whiskeys? I Bought a bottle the other day and it wasn't bad for a R100 bottle of whiskey. Was the blue 5yo bottle.

My long time favourite for a nightly drink stays JW black.

Tried the James King std, 5yr, 8yr, 12 yr and 12 yr single malt. VERY good for the price, R200 for a 12yr Speyside single :nutter:  (posted about this earlier in the thread)

For the money you spend on JW Blue, you can get 4 bottles of Macallan 12 yr S.M. which is a far nicer whisky IMO. JW Blue is the most overpriced overrated whisky, again IMO
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: andredt on June 13, 2013, 08:30:10 AM
I don't Disagree with you I have had far nicer whiskeys my self. For lesser moneys.


Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: andredt on June 13, 2013, 08:33:59 AM
Don't mean to pain. But can you post a pic of the bottle or link so I know what to look for.

Thanks.

A
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: BWS on June 13, 2013, 09:46:16 AM
This is the 10 year old - R400 at Makro

(http://markcnewton.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/macallan-10yo-fine-oak.jpg)


And this is the Sherry casked 12 year old R500-R550.


(http://manarchymag.com/core/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/macallan-12yo.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: andredt on June 13, 2013, 10:00:32 AM
Awesome Thanks BWS. im going to Macro later to get a bottle of each.
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: BWS on June 13, 2013, 10:19:31 AM
Awesome Thanks BWS. im going to Macro later to get a bottle of each.

Money VERY well spent :point:
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: Bullet_GP on June 13, 2013, 10:24:22 AM
At one point in time I went through most of the JW's and I was bitterly dissapointed with JW Blue. Not as fantastic as they try and make it out to be.

I got given a bottle of "Black Bottle" the other day and it wasn't half bad either
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: andredt on June 13, 2013, 10:37:05 AM
At one point in time I went through most of the JW's and I was bitterly dissapointed with JW Blue. Not as fantastic as they try and make it out to be.

I got given a bottle of "Black Bottle" the other day and it wasn't half bad either

In some ways I must agree shot for shot a enjoy gold more then blue.
Cant comment on the Platinum as I have not had it yet.
A splash of water with the blue frees it up a bit I find. A good glass is also a necessity my cognac and better whiskies only gets drank from crystal glasses.

Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: Bullet_GP on June 13, 2013, 10:41:46 AM
In some ways I must agree shot for shot a enjoy gold more then blue.
Cant comment on the Platinum as I have not had it yet.
A splash of water with the blue frees it up a bit I find. A good glass is also a necessity my cognac and better whiskies only gets drank from crystal glasses.

My sentiments exactly. I definately enjoy the gold more :thumbs:
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: BWS on June 13, 2013, 10:42:02 AM

A splash of water with the blue frees it up a bit I find. A good glass is also a necessity my cognac and better whiskies only gets drank from crystal glasses.

Much debated but there is no right or wrong here. IMO a splash of water is essential with mature whiskies, it releases the flavours and bouquets

+1 for crystal
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: Bullet_GP on June 13, 2013, 10:48:45 AM
Much debated but there is no right or wrong here. IMO a splash of water is essential with mature whiskies, it releases the flavours and bouquets

+1 for crystal

I am going to remember that :clap:
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: andredt on June 13, 2013, 10:50:38 AM
Much debated but there is no right or wrong here. IMO a splash of water is essential with mature whiskies, it releases the flavours and bouquets

+1 for crystal
Indeed much debated it depends from person to person.
I feel its my whiskey I can drink it any way I enjoy.
Im really looking forward to tasting my new whiskey tonight thanks again BWS I feel and must be honest here that JW has become a gimmick a brand name rich affluent government members drink JW blue not because they know whiskey or appreciate the different scents and notes of flavour its a status thing.

 
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: frikkie on June 13, 2013, 10:58:36 AM
JW Blue is the most overpriced overrated whisky, again IMO

Indeed. Much better drams available at less than a quarter of its cost.
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: BWS on June 14, 2013, 08:27:50 AM

Im really looking forward to tasting my new whiskey tonight thanks again BWS

So,... what do you think ?
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: andredt on June 14, 2013, 12:16:25 PM
So,... what do you think ?
Very very NICE got the 12 Y/O for 599 and the 10 Y/O gift pack with 2 glasses for 379

I still have a headache thou might have over indulged.

:)
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: BWS on June 14, 2013, 12:23:25 PM
Very very NICE got the 12 Y/O for 599 and the 10 Y/O gift pack with 2 glasses for 379

I still have a headache thou might have over indulged.

:)

 :ROFLMAO: It can have that effect, its just so damn tasty. I had to return to Makro during the week to get another bottle, the first, uh, didn't last long :point:
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: andredt on June 14, 2013, 12:58:31 PM
:ROFLMAO: It can have that effect, its just so damn tasty. I had to return to Makro during the week to get another bottle, the first, uh, didn't last long :point:
Thank gosh I thought I was a alcoholic, I feel much better now that im not alone.

 Goofy

Wifey wasn't impressed when I only woke up at seven and there was no breakfast this morning.
To make things worse my Saeco coffee machine packed up this morning still need to take it in, its in my cars boot.
So yes couldn't even have a strong espresso to get me going  :giggle:
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: Bullet_GP on June 14, 2013, 01:31:40 PM
Now I am intrigued... :thinking:

You guys have convinced me to give the Macallan a run. Being a cheap-skate I will opt for the 10Yr first
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: andredt on June 14, 2013, 01:37:03 PM
You wont regret it Mate.

Im sure the no giftpack one will be about 300bucks.
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: hylt on June 14, 2013, 01:49:09 PM
Well now.. This si an interesting thread  :thumbs:

My favorite is Glenlivet 15yr old..  Tastes like caramel to my pallet, just bloody pricy so only for special occasions.  (http://www.theglenlivet.com/the-whisky/the-classic-range (http://www.theglenlivet.com/the-whisky/the-classic-range))

I have been through the johnny walker range from red to blue excluding platinum and have found that I like the red label the best..

As for Glenfidich once you have had Glenlivet there is no going back (IMO)
 
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: TimbaLand on June 15, 2013, 10:21:46 AM
At one point in time I went through most of the JW's and I was bitterly dissapointed with JW Blue. Not as fantastic as they try and make it out to be.

I got given a bottle of "Black Bottle" the other day and it wasn't half bad either
IMO JW is bad whiskey which is very well marketed. I will never buy JW. I drink it only when someone offers
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: andredt on June 18, 2013, 01:36:23 PM
IMO JW is bad whiskey which is very well marketed. I will never buy JW. I drink it only when someone offers

Only one I still like is the JW double black. My days of buying green gold and blue are over that is for sure.
Like I also mentioned it is for people that doesn't know whiskey that rides on the fact that blue is 18k a bottle so it must be good.

A
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: mahleu on June 18, 2013, 09:16:26 PM
I found another that I like (bringing the total to 2). Chivas Regal 12. Nice stuff.
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: andredt on June 19, 2013, 08:18:16 AM
Old favourite of mine the Chivas 12 and its not priced badly either.
Also tried a new one last night bells 10 Y/O malt whiskey honestly enjoyed it.
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: Crafty on June 24, 2013, 07:04:01 PM
So a couple of months ago I sampled some Talisker @ Rudi's.
Liked it but was really restrained by being on the bike. So could only really sample it.
I now bought my own bottle, and it takes real constraint to not finish the bottle in 2 or 3 days.
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: Bullet_GP_Wife on June 26, 2013, 11:47:46 AM
A little useless information I stumbled upon.

(http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p96/gendv/whiskey101-2.jpg) (http://s126.photobucket.com/user/gendv/media/whiskey101-2.jpg.html)
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: Atjan on June 26, 2013, 02:46:46 PM
I like the garden variety Jameson's whiskey. I see that Checkers have a special running on the "Select Reserve" for about R270. Seeing its end of the month 'n all, I'm considering a bottle. Is it any good? Or should I rather just get the garden variety.
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: Deezil on June 26, 2013, 03:48:48 PM
Never got around to that Glenmorangie I mentioned last month but I've noticed this Glenlivet special at Tops (http://www.topsatspar.co.za/Libraries/Specials_PDF/sj24996_tops_june_me_inl_a3_leaflet_1_cnt.sflb.ashx) ... I'll definitely treat myself before the weekend
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: dkronie on June 26, 2013, 05:07:27 PM
Never got around to that Glenmorangie I mentioned last month but I've noticed this Glenlivet special at Tops (http://www.topsatspar.co.za/Libraries/Specials_PDF/sj24996_tops_june_me_inl_a3_leaflet_1_cnt.sflb.ashx) ... I'll definitely treat myself before the weekend
That may be a print error so print the pdf and take it with , cause I have a Tops booklet I got with news paper and it says 329.95 for the 12 year Glenlivet only ,for the same promotional period
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: dkronie on June 26, 2013, 05:47:56 PM
That may be a print error so print the pdf and take it with , cause I have a Tops booklet I got with news paper and it says 329.95 for the 12 year Glenlivet only ,for the same promotional period
Eish that special is inland only , did not know whiskey is cheaper inland  :'(

FNB Whiskey festival also cancelled all whiskey workshops in the Cape   :sulky:

Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: Atjan on June 27, 2013, 08:53:01 AM
What comes from the Highland stays on the Highland. :teach:
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: andredt on June 27, 2013, 09:13:57 AM
Because everyone in CT drinks papsak. Soon there will be a papsak festival
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: Deezil on June 27, 2013, 09:51:08 AM
Eish that special is inland only , did not know whiskey is cheaper inland  :'(

Sorry about the confusion dk ... didn't know it was an "inland" only promotion.
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: Flash. on June 27, 2013, 11:36:41 AM
For the lover's of bourbon..

Bought one of these two weekends ago...

(https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSTtRbK7E7kX7a1es2yysPs-KL04vfqgYCcDiDMN3p7q3U7ERDy)

For R220 odd it was well worth the punt... :thumbs:
Title: Re: The Whiskey thread
Post by: BWS on June 27, 2013, 12:12:16 PM
^^ Definitely  going to give that a try
Title: Re: The Whiskey/NightCap thread
Post by: BWS on July 29, 2013, 08:59:40 AM
I changed the title of this thread a little so as not to exclude other delights.

Despite its 'old lady' image, this is just the thing for the cold weekend we just had in the Cape. Enjoyed this thoroughly: 2008 Landskroon Port

(http://images.wine.co.za/GetDirWinePicture.aspx?WINEID=27714&Type=Picture)

http://www.wine.co.za/directory/wine.aspx?WINEID=27714
Title: Re: The Whiskey/NightCap thread
Post by: Shonver on July 29, 2013, 10:29:00 AM
I changed the title of this thread a little so as not to exclude other delights.

Ah, that was you, you fiddly bugger.

I'm not much of a pure whisk(e)y fan, but I always finish a meal at the Spur with an Irish coffee (double!). Lately I have been enjoying Irish Mist, having heard of it on this here thread. What other similar liqueurs are there? Can anyone recommend me some?
Title: Re: The Whiskey/NightCap thread
Post by: Kent Kassler on July 31, 2013, 07:57:29 AM
Mocador :point:.....Shaun,i go to Pick and Pay for to liquor...instead they offer me beverage,i say "noooo i rather want Beverly"....manager say "best i can do is Old Brown Cherry."...ugly old cow come out and i want Tequila.He want to throw me out and i go Zuma on him "Do you know who i am?..I Amarula of this country!"He bring out 5 Cousins to Whisky me outside so i settle for Gin toe. :giggle:
Title: Re: The Whiskey/NightCap thread
Post by: BWS on July 31, 2013, 08:00:01 AM
Mocador :point:.....Shaun,i go to Pick and Pay for to liquor...instead they offer me beverage,i say "noooo i rather want Beverly"....manager say "best i can do is Old Brown Cherry."...ugly old cow come out and i want Tequila.He want to throw me out and i tell him "Do you know who i am?..I Amarula of this country!"He bring out 5 Cousins to Whisky me outside so i settle for Gin toe. :giggle:

And clearly, you drank it all in 1 go :point:
Title: Re: The Whiskey/NightCap thread
Post by: SS100 on July 31, 2013, 08:10:45 AM
I changed the title of this thread a little so as not to exclude other delights.
Thread just lost it's charm.     :facepalm:
Title: Re: The Whiskey/NightCap thread
Post by: Crafty on July 31, 2013, 02:58:30 PM
Thread just lost it's charm.     :facepalm:
Lets get it back to track...

In total, there is somewhere in the region of 5 000 unique types of single malt whiskeys.
My point is... They're not going to try them selves out.
Title: Re: The Whiskey/NightCap thread
Post by: GECO on July 31, 2013, 04:06:35 PM
Seriously "nightcap" next you will be sipping pink drinks.
Title: Re: The 'Dop' thread
Post by: BWS on August 01, 2013, 08:16:12 AM
Happiness? :point:
Title: Re: The 'Dop' thread
Post by: SS100 on August 01, 2013, 02:24:05 PM
 :)



(Boy, I would love to have Admin rights - just for one day.)  :EGrin:
Title: Re: The 'Dop' thread
Post by: Atjan on August 01, 2013, 09:14:09 PM
I had the pure priviledge of a couple glasses Meerlust Rubicon 2008 on Monday night, to wash down some springbok shank. I don't like this smiley, but there is no other way :drool:
Title: Re: The 'Dop' thread
Post by: xenithon on August 02, 2013, 09:56:31 AM
I like sweet, dessert wines. The likes of late / noble late harvets; botrytis semillon, etc. I have on 2 occasions been able to enjoy one of the finest - Klein Constantia Vin De Constance (http://www.wineanorak.com/southafrica/southafrica_14_kleinconstantia.htm). Once a 2005 and once a 2006. I was also given a bottle on one of my birthdays....being kept in its box for a very special occasion. 
Title: The 'Dop' thread
Post by: GECO on August 02, 2013, 10:32:41 AM
This thread has been contaminated

So what is a good papsak wine?
Title: Re: The 'Dop' thread
Post by: mahleu on August 05, 2013, 09:38:13 AM
This thread has been contaminated

So what is a good papsak wine?

Papsak has the added bonus that when you finish, you can blow it up and use it as a pillow. True story.
I use it to make Gluhwein too. Mmmmmm.
Title: Re: The 'Dop' thread
Post by: oNyX on August 05, 2013, 07:01:27 PM
Tassenberg.

:ROFLMAO:
Title: Re: The 'Dop' thread
Post by: andredt on August 06, 2013, 03:06:42 PM
Rubicon Meerlust is a lovely red but at 500 a bottle I can recommend bottles half the price that is just as good, if not better.
Title: Re: The 'Dop' thread
Post by: Atjan on August 19, 2013, 01:44:19 PM
Ahh, now you're talking! Care to share some recommendations? Not much I've tasted deserves to be mentioned in the same breath as the Rubicon.
Title: Re: The 'Dop' thread
Post by: craig-s22 on October 03, 2013, 12:27:01 PM
I was fortunate enough to receive a bottle of that 2008 Rubicon as a gift a few years ago and have to agree, lovely bottle of wine. In the Merlot vein, David Frost is also one of my favourites. a little over R200 or so a bottle last time I bought.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Deezil on October 28, 2013, 11:39:45 AM
OK, time to get this thread back on track ... 6 months on from my original post (about half way down pg 8 (http://www.avforums.co.za/index.php/topic,20678.105.html)) I can honestly say my taste buds are on the right track (I think). Eventually went off to buy that bottle of Glenlivet which at first tasted almost as vile as the Jameson I described earlier. Tasted it neat, on the rocks, with a splash of water, you name it but honestly the only way I could even attempt to drink it was half half whiskey & soda water with a block or two of ice (I have to confess that is still how I prefer to drink anything else otherwise the taste is simply way too overpowering)

The real epiphany happened after yet another work function about 4 months ago where I had a JW Black on ice with only a dash of water. Granted I was already a bit schlossed at the time but honestly that Johnnie tasted absolutely divine and since then I've tried to get through as many tastings as possible.

Here is a short summary of my relatively short journey thus far (in order of purchase) ...
Glenlivet 12yo - what tasted vile at fit first is now suddenly very light and sweet. Very drinkable but almost too light and sweet for my taste.
Chivas Regal 12yo - Bought for my dad who swears by it. Very enjoyable but also almost too light and sweet.
Glen Grant Single Malt - Good stuff for R200. Light smoky taste which I enjoy quite a bit (purchased because I got confused with this and Geco's recommendation of Grant's  :???:)
Talisker 10yo - Sjoe! Almost overwhelmingly smokey and peaty. Working my way up to fully enjoy this. Hopefully this will happen before Christmas.
Jameson's Select Reserve - Not bad but completely different from your normal smooth Jameson's. Almost harsh tasting compared with others. Won't buy again.
Johnny Walker Black - Smooth and almost smoky. Almost like a Talisker light. Lovely stuff to be honest.
Three Ships 5yo - Not bad for an evenings starter drink but very harsh tasting if you have this after almost anything else in this list. Probably won't buy again.
Singleton 12yo - Very nice and smooth with a definite woody/nutty taste. Better than Glenlivet imo but I think I prefer something heavier/smokier.

Below is simply a few pictures of my "tool" cabinet taken over the last few months (with my crappy cellphone of course)
(http://s9.postimg.org/nu5tnoijj/IMG_20130927_234932.jpg) (http://postimage.org/) (http://s9.postimg.org/hry6x6u3j/IMG_20130825_191256.jpg) (http://postimage.org/)


By the way, both Makro (http://makro.ensight-cdn.com/content/Mnat%204069%20Low%20Res.pdf) and Ultra Liquors (http://www.ultraliquors.co.za/files/assets/downloads/publication.pdf) seems to have hell of a good bargains on whisky at the moment with prices valid till the end of the year. I can confidently say that both Oban and Talisker is cheaper at Ultra Liquors than at the distillery itself (unfortunately not from first hand experience). Enjoy!




 
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: kamikazi on October 28, 2013, 01:01:54 PM
My wife brought me a bottle of 10 yo Talisker whisky when she returned from a trip to Germany (what an angel! :cleansound: ). Very interesting whisky and one that you can immediately taste in one of the Johnny Walker Black labels. Less of a shock on the system compared to Laphroaig. Its very interesting as it has a very peppery taste. First time I really noticed that in a whisky. So the first taste is quite smooth and smoky and then suddenly the pepperiness comes through. One of my favourites so far, but still think Johnny Walker Double Black is better value for money. Also bought a bottle Bain's Mountain whisky, but I didn't like it much. Interesting hints of toffee, but that was about it. Also not a fan of Chivas Regal 12yo, a bit too sweet and light for me too. Deezil, if you like Johnny Walker Black, you'll definitely love the Double Black! Give it a shot.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Deezil on October 28, 2013, 01:49:17 PM
Thanx ... double black is definitely high on the acquisitions list.

Currently have 3 single malts in the cupboard, pondering a 4th?   :thinking:

Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: kamikazi on October 28, 2013, 02:13:12 PM
Try a Glenfiddich 12yo. Of the smoother grain whiskies, this is one of my favourites, but think I have outgrown this one somewhat. Not complicated, but great for summer weather and everyday drinking. Nice baseline to compare other whiskies against. Probably too similar to your Glenlivet 12yo? The Glenmorangie 10 yo also sound interesting. Reviews says its more refined than the Glenfiddich 12 yo and more flavours compared to the Glenlivet. Think it could be worth a shot.

If you are ready for an adventure, try one of the Islay malts.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Deezil on October 28, 2013, 04:42:23 PM
Sheez if I struggle with Talisker what will I think of an Ardbeg or a Lagavulin for example ... mayby I should leave the classic Islay's for next year?  ;)

Your Glenmorangie suggestion sounds really good but on the other hand I'm scared that it is too close to the Singleton? Ah well, so many whiskies, so little time  :(
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: BWS on October 30, 2013, 08:57:36 AM
(http://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/341-sounds-true-3da30045-sz850x850-animate.jpg)
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: BWS on October 30, 2013, 08:59:00 AM

(http://s9.postimg.org/nu5tnoijj/IMG_20130927_234932.jpg) (http://postimage.org/) (http://s9.postimg.org/hry6x6u3j/IMG_20130825_191256.jpg) (http://postimage.org/)


!


You need to add Macallan to that cabinet, you will NOT regret
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Roux28 on October 30, 2013, 08:13:12 PM
Had great fun with friends, doing serious damage to a bottle of this last weekend:

(http://ouidram.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/DL_BigPeat_Tube_for-web.jpg)

It is a blend of whiskies from:

Ardbeg
Caol Ila
Bowmore
Port Ellen

You can almost smell the smoke rising from the glass when you pour it.  Superb.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: TimbaLand on October 31, 2013, 05:39:18 PM
I hosted friends for a braai on Saturday. They drink like fishes so I bought them 5 bottles of glenmorangie 10 years. Later in the evening they had cleaned all the bottles and I caught them pouring my glenmorangie 18 years which they found in the cupboard. This was not meant for the braai, its my own personal whiskey. I hid it in the kitchen rubbish bin so that they can't find it. 2 days later I remembered about the hidden whiskey but it was too late as my girlfriend had emptied the bin and the garbage collectors were gone already
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: BWS on November 01, 2013, 07:15:09 AM
I hosted friends for a braai on Saturday. They drink like fishes so I bought them 5 bottles of glenmorangie 10 years. Later in the evening they had cleaned all the bottles and I caught them pouring my glenmorangie 18 years which they found in the cupboard. This was not meant for the braai, its my own personal whiskey. I hid it in the kitchen rubbish bin so that they can't find it. 2 days later I remembered about the hidden whiskey but it was too late as my girlfriend had emptied the bin and the garbage collectors were gone already

 :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: I feel your pain
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Shonver on November 01, 2013, 08:12:37 AM
LOL! You're obviously not familiar with the term "chuck-out time"!
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: BWS on November 01, 2013, 08:24:51 AM
LOL! You're obviously not familiar with the term "chuck-out time"!

 :BWAHAHAH: or a Biatch-slap
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: kamikazi on November 01, 2013, 08:25:35 AM
I'd never hid something that precious in a rubbish bin! :o Mine would be hidden in the safe! Nice of you to treat your friends to such good whisky, I hope they appreciated it.

Roux28, that Islay blend looks good! Where did you find it?
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: BWS on November 01, 2013, 08:37:47 AM
At UltraLiquors, get this while you can !!!!!! :notworthy: :thumbs:

(http://i44.tinypic.com/24oa9ax.jpg)
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: SS100 on November 01, 2013, 10:23:50 AM
I hosted friends for a braai on Saturday. They drink like fishes so I bought them 5 bottles of glenmorangie 10 years.

I want to be your friend.
When's the next braai?
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Roux28 on November 01, 2013, 09:53:38 PM
Roux28, that Islay blend looks good! Where did you find it?

WhiskyBrother in Hyde Park Corner.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: TimbaLand on November 02, 2013, 01:04:19 PM
I'd never hid something that precious in a rubbish bin! :o Mine would be hidden in the safe! Nice of you to treat your friends to such good whisky, I hope they appreciated it.

Roux28, that Islay blend looks good! Where did you find it?

Honestly they didn't. They are ***holes. They'll never get that from me again. I should have kept the empty bottles and fill them with cheap whiskey and invite them again
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: mahleu on November 02, 2013, 01:12:07 PM
Honestly they didn't. They are ***holes. They'll never get that from me again. I should have kept the empty bottles and fill them with cheap whiskey and invite them again

I wouldn't be refilling them with whisky...
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: kamikazi on November 02, 2013, 06:31:57 PM
Honestly they didn't. They are ***holes. They'll never get that from me again. I should have kept the empty bottles and fill them with cheap whiskey and invite them again

Honestly, I'd fill them with Brandy! :EGrin: Next time you want to enjoy a whisky invite us fellow members over! :dop: Can assure you we will appreciate it! :angel:
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: kamikazi on November 05, 2013, 08:19:35 AM
Must say Glenmorangie is good stuff. Bought a bottle this weekend after the Johnny Walker ran out. First taste is quite bland and then it hits you with a variety of flavours. Definitely one of the more interesting whiskies that I've tasted so far that is not peaty or smoky. Count me as a fan, much better than Glenfiddich!
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: TimbaLand on November 05, 2013, 12:56:24 PM
Must say Glenmorangie is good stuff. Bought a bottle this weekend after the Johnny Walker ran out. First taste is quite bland and then it hits you with a variety of flavours. Definitely one of the more interesting whiskies that I've tasted so far that is not peaty or smoky. Count me as a fan, much better than Glenfiddich!

Spoil yourself with 18 years or the Signet one day. Please invite me also
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: thomtom on November 06, 2013, 05:13:05 AM
Single Malts, I did not read the entire whisky thread.  I found the so called Single Malt tasting Map a great help.

I have seen a map with 260 single malts.  Heavy peat to light peat and the same for smoke.  If you like a whisky and know where on the chart it is positioned, the neighbours will also appeal to your taste.

http://www.malts.com/index.php/en_za/Choosing-Whisky/A-World-of-Flavour/The-Single-Malt-Whisky-Flavour-Map

I do like the blends and nothing wrong with "Jannie Stap" met sy rooibadjie!
 :dop:
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Deezil on November 29, 2013, 12:06:52 PM
Forgot that November is my birthday hell month (meaning almost everybody important in my life needs a present in November) which left my SMAS (Single Malt Acquisition Spree) back by about 30 days. Did manage to squeeze an el-cheapo bottle of James King 12YO Speyside Single Malt into the equation though ... for the price it's not bad but taste wise reminded me to much of Grants Major's Reserve which is a bit cheaper (especially now with all the boxed promotions everywhere during the festive season)

Here's a fun review of some of the cheaper blends available that I found quite interesting ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_v5jJGz43Bc ... Anyway, my salary has been paid and I'm off to the bottle store to pick up something decent and maybe a bottle or 2 of Teachers Highland Cream.

Cheers  :dop:

 
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Juggy on November 29, 2013, 12:44:58 PM
I got a bottle of Jura from a friend for my birthday. Pretty decent stuff

http://www.jurawhisky.com/language-selector?ref=/
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Deezil on November 29, 2013, 02:23:52 PM
Should definitely have gone with the 2 bottles of Teachers option (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/11/29/jy9e9yme.jpg)
Still a bargain though
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: BWS on November 29, 2013, 02:31:58 PM
I'd have bought 2 cases
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: kamikazi on November 29, 2013, 05:37:08 PM
I'm now trying the Singleton 12yo malt whisky. I think this is a great starter whisky, better than Glenfiddich. So far I liked the Glenmorangie 10yo more as it has a very interesting taste.

I also looked at the Macallan whiskies, but the whisky guides seem to be mixed about which one to try. The more affordable oak barrel 10yo malt seems to be not all that great. Looks like they dump their whisky into sherry barrels. What effect does that have on the whisky?
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: TimbaLand on November 29, 2013, 06:07:07 PM
I was at the OR Tambo duty free on a business trip. Glenmorangie Signet is R1 999 for 2. This is a buy 1 get 1 free promo
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Deezil on November 30, 2013, 05:07:50 AM
Damn that Signet sounds amazing (both the offer and the whisky itself) ... a bit out of my league and a touch unreachable though  :(

Kamikazi,  the Singleton is lovely stuff indeed. Found it much more interesting than the Glenlivet I have, not as sweet and more flavourful.

Haven't opened my Glenmorangie yet (speaking of which, that box with the 2 glasses is a work of art in itself) but the Teachers Highland Cream is bloody amazing (even at the advertised price of R135). Smokier than Johnnie Black but not as much as Talisker, which makes it an excellent stepping stone to the more peaty stuff out there (In my noob opinion).

I'm definitely heading back out this morning to see if I can get more of it at that ridiculous R50 price (Makro Centurion BTW)

Cheers  :dop:
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: sergiochinelli on February 11, 2014, 08:12:03 PM
Its good stuff but who in their right mind would buy that to keep it on a shelf collecting dust and watching their "investment" slowly evaporate...
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: GECO on February 13, 2014, 05:46:35 PM
out of interest i bought the teachers. piss water with alcohol added,  nothing good about it.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: ghostinthemachine on February 13, 2014, 05:54:08 PM
out of interest i bought the teachers. piss water with alcohol added,  nothing good about it.

A few years back Teachers was great. But it seems to have been commercialised.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: DemonKnight on March 09, 2014, 10:22:42 PM
Johnnie blue to the rescue  :shh:
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: XL1000 on March 20, 2014, 02:17:46 PM
My previous Boss gave me a bottle of JWBlue...Special case and all.
I like anything that starts with "Glen....".
My poison of choice is however GJ - Gentleman Jack.

Today a client gave me a bottle of 18YR Glenfiddich, Gold Award 2013.
Yesterday I received a bottle of Johnny Walker Black from a young lady who purchased a 120D Coupe cash!
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: BWS on March 20, 2014, 03:23:50 PM
Johnnie blue to the rescue  :shh:

 :puke: I will NOT fork out THAT kind of money for a blended, overpriced, overhyped, and admittedly very well marketed whisky when a R500 bottle of Macallan will wipe the floor with it.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: rorz0r on March 20, 2014, 10:23:32 PM
Someone gave my dad glenlivet 18yr and he doesn't drink so I had a taste. I'm not a fan of whisky but I had a taste and it was pretty good. Tasted like marshmallows to me. So I bought myself a bottle of glenlivet 12yr earlier, will do some more extensive tasting this weekend.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: kamikazi on April 15, 2014, 08:39:01 AM
Think I've settled on Black Bottle whisky for the time being. Whisky prices seems to have gone up quite a bit during the past month... :vsad:

Had the opportunity to sample the 18 y/o Glenfiddich whisky and have to say it was much better (more floral and fruity) than the 12 y/o which is a bit boring.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: GearSlave on April 15, 2014, 12:57:55 PM
Had the opportunity to sample the 18 y/o Glenfiddich whisky and have to say it was much better (more floral and fruity) than the 12 y/o which is a bit boring.

Had some last night as well - very very nice. The bottle is now open so I need to finish it  ;D
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: TimbaLand on April 16, 2014, 09:54:29 PM
My previous Boss gave me a bottle of JWBlue...Special case and all.
I like anything that starts with "Glen....".
My poison of choice is however GJ - Gentleman Jack.

Today a client gave me a bottle of 18YR Glenfiddich, Gold Award 2013.
Yesterday I received a bottle of Johnny Walker Black from a young lady who purchased a 120D Coupe cash!

Can I come and listen to your setup?  :thinking: :coffee:
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: kamikazi on April 17, 2014, 08:16:38 AM
I also sampled JW Blue once and didn't like it at all, guess it might also be the price tag at work. JW Double Black is a nice one if you can't afford Talisker whisky.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: dkronie on April 17, 2014, 09:03:56 AM
I also sampled JW Blue once and didn't like it at all, guess it might also be the price tag at work. JW Double Black is a nice one if you can't afford Talisker whisky.
yip ,the only JW I like is the smokey JW double black

Here is some specials , not sure if it is worth it

Source : Whisky Live Newsletter
Quote
Most extensive selection available in SA

Delivery within 3 working days to main centres

Free delivery for orders of R1200+

Free gift wrapping

Private bottlings

Send your client a unique, exclusive gift!
 

FNB Whisky Live Festival Special Bottling of the Edradour 10YO – only 60 bottles left @ R680 incl. VAT each!


Easter Special:

Spend R500 or more on any products featured here – all available for sampling at the FNB Whisky Live Showrooms – & receive a 10% discount! Enter the promo code EASTER during checkout.

(Offer excl. the FNB Whisky Live Festival Special Bottling and valid until 21 April 2014)

 

The Glenlivet 16 Year Old Nadurra @ R940/bottle

The Glenfiddich 19 Year Old Discovery @ R1 500/bottle

The Macallan Sienna @ R1 035/bottle

Johnnie Walker Platinum Label @ R940/bottle

Jameson Select Reserve @ R329/bottle

Bains Cape Mountain Whisky @ R199.00/bottle

Black Bottle @ R224/bottle

Glen Grant 10 Year Old @ R395/bottle

Balblair 2000 Vintage @ R495/bottle


http://www.whiskyshopsa.co.za/

Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: dkronie on April 22, 2014, 12:19:37 PM
Single Malt Map

Nice guide for us newbies

Source : http://blog.leyerle.com/2012/06/single-malt-map.html
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-VJf2UXvF-iE/T9w4Yr9wNZI/AAAAAAAAB_U/a7W9kRQAh-s/s1600/Single_Malt_Whisky_Flavor_Map.png)
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Deezil on April 22, 2014, 12:40:04 PM
out of interest i bought the teachers. piss water with alcohol added,  nothing good about it.
After 7 bottles I have to agree ... Initially it wasn't so bad to my un-initiated taste buds but somehow the taste got worse and worse over time.

In the meantime I also found that I still don't enjoy Talisker at all, Johnnie Double Black and Bushmills Black Bush is quite drinkable but at the end of the day I have to admit that plain old Johnnie Black works best with my untrained palate.  Something at least my wallet is quite happy about.  :thumbs:
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: GearSlave on April 22, 2014, 12:50:26 PM
I realise it isn't 'fashionable' to like Chivas, but it's an old favourite for a reason. It's my goto drink when at a social. The only time I drink anything fancier is when I'm in my own bar and have a mate over.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Juggy on April 22, 2014, 01:03:05 PM
I bought a bottle of Tullamore Dew this weekend and was very surprised by how good it is for the money. I bought the standard stuff at R199.

Even the 12 year old is under R400 a bottle
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: kamikazi on April 22, 2014, 01:03:36 PM
Thanks for the map, from the ones I've sampled I quite agree with it. Interesting how the whiskies move to the right of the chart with age. The only quadrant I haven't explored much is the top right one. Maybe time to save up for a bottle of Lagavulin 16yo. Definitely also need to give the 12yo Macallan a try. I really liked the 18yo Glenfiddich due to its fruity flavour, but I'd like a bit more smoke in it.

JW Black was also my favourite, but they seem to have messed it up since they introduced the new labels, feels like they upped the grain whisky content. Perhaps they were under pressure to keep it in its price bracket or they were cashing in on their emerging market popularity. Personally I now prefer Black Bottle to JW Black in the R200-300 category. Talisker and whiskies like Chivas are more fitting for a particular mood or if you like to drink something different from the usual. I remember buying two bottles of Chivas and it took me nearly 2 years to finish the one and I gave the other one to a friend.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: BWS on April 22, 2014, 01:16:19 PM
Definitely also need to give the 12yo Macallan a try.

The Benchmark 12 Yr old IMO
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Atjan on April 23, 2014, 08:27:41 PM
I bought a bottle of Tullamore Dew this weekend and was very surprised by how good it is for the money. I bought the standard stuff at R199.

Even the 12 year old is under R400 a bottle
Just shows you how taste differs. I really struggled to finish the bottle of Tullamore Dew I bought. Not all at once either.  :D
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Dynamic D on April 26, 2014, 08:15:50 AM
Had a couple of Taliskers last night watching the Sharks make way too many handling errors....
This remains one of my favourites and I really enjoy playing around with different amounts of ice to see how the taste changes. You obviously need a bit of time and patience to fiddle around but hey- isn't that what whiskey drinking is all about  ;)
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: dkronie on June 05, 2014, 03:53:03 PM
Private Barrel No 39 , special till 08 Jun 2014

Got me some but have not tried it

Fr1day Review :http://fr1day.co.za/2014/06/03/a-new-checkers-private-barrel-co-whisky-called-no-39-joins-the-stable/ (http://fr1day.co.za/2014/06/03/a-new-checkers-private-barrel-co-whisky-called-no-39-joins-the-stable/)

(http://cdn.guzzle.co.za/media/thumbnails/catalogues/p2_13.jpg.900x10000_q75.jpg)
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: OliverP on June 06, 2014, 03:04:40 PM
Thanks for the heads up, managed to pick up a bottle.

They are already in short supply here in Jhb.

Private Barrel No 39 , special till 08 Jun 2014

Got me some but have not tried it


Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Razr on June 08, 2014, 02:13:11 AM
Private Barrel No 39 , special till 08 Jun 2014

Got me some but have not tried it

Fr1day Review :http://fr1day.co.za/2014/06/03/a-new-checkers-private-barrel-co-whisky-called-no-39-joins-the-stable/ (http://fr1day.co.za/2014/06/03/a-new-checkers-private-barrel-co-whisky-called-no-39-joins-the-stable/)


this looks good will look for some on monday
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: dkronie on June 08, 2014, 11:23:28 AM
this looks good will look for some on monday
If you find any, let us know what is the normal retail price because special only till today
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: kamikazi on June 08, 2014, 11:29:06 AM
Thats a great price for a single Malt, considering what else you can get at that price. Better priced actually than Bain's mountain whisky. I've been wary of Checkers private bin wines. I've had some decent tasting ones, but mostly stinkers which made me wonder where they really source the stuff from??

Bought myself a bottle of Dimple for my birthday in April (Makro were out of Macallan) and have to say I liked it quite a bit. Actually reminds me a bit of Bain's mountain whisky (the vanilla and caramel notes) but that one ended up being a whisky I didn't really like that much.

Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Shonver on June 08, 2014, 02:36:42 PM
OT (wine):

I've been wary of Checkers private bin wines. I've had some decent tasting ones, but mostly stinkers which made me wonder where they really source the stuff from??

On second thoughts, I'll post my response here: http://www.avforums.co.za/index.php/topic,15886.45.html
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Atjan on June 08, 2014, 11:42:20 PM
The Bains worked better for me with Coke.  ;D

Nursed a nice Jameson's and ice tonight by the fire.....just to prove I'm not a complete whiskey barbarian.  :point:
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: TimbaLand on June 09, 2014, 09:04:12 PM
I was given a bottle of a Monkey Shoulder. It was the first time I came across it. I enjoyed it.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: dkronie on June 10, 2014, 09:26:21 AM
A friend had some Pappy van Winkle bourbon and he has been converted to bourbon

Googled it and found the below article, seems that will be he last and no luck to the rest of us finding any, if the article is true

Looking for a bottle of Pappy Van Winkle bourbon? Good Luck
http://insiderlouisville.com/lifestyle_culture/looking-bottle-pappy-van-winkle-christmas-good-luck/ (http://insiderlouisville.com/lifestyle_culture/looking-bottle-pappy-van-winkle-christmas-good-luck/)
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: ghostinthemachine on June 18, 2014, 01:21:39 PM
Any mention made of Glen Grant Single Malt?

Me and a buddy enjoyed half a bottle this past weekend as his BD shindig. Very smooth fruity palate with delicate spicy notes.

(http://www.glengrant.com/media/45018/majors_reserve.png)

 
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: BWS on June 18, 2014, 03:30:11 PM
^^ go with the 10 yr old, well the extra cash :thumbs:
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: dkronie on June 18, 2014, 03:50:07 PM
^^ go with the 10 yr old, well the extra cash :thumbs:
even better the 17 yr old , double the 10yr but really worth it

(http://fr1day.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/glen-grant-private-barrel-co.jpg)

Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Atjan on June 24, 2014, 01:41:23 PM
Value-wise the garden variety Glen Grant is hard to beat. Once you go to the 10yr there's a good few contenders for my cash.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: dkronie on June 24, 2014, 02:10:12 PM
Value-wise the garden variety Glen Grant is hard to beat. Once you go to the 10yr there's a good few contenders for my cash.
Any with fruity notes you can recommend
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: BWS on June 24, 2014, 03:45:07 PM
Any with fruity notes you can recommend

try a few of the Irish brands, Bushmills, Powers, Tullamore Dew etc and if you can find it, Erin's Isle
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: dkronie on June 25, 2014, 09:47:12 AM
try a few of the Irish brands, Bushmills, Powers, Tullamore Dew etc and if you can find it, Erin's Isle
The Bushmills 10 Year Old look promising R299 @ M@kro, according to online reviews , very fruity , will definitely try it :thumbs: :thumbs:

Quote
Nose: Banana skins.

Palate: Medium, very fruity, chocolate pudding.

Finish: Floral, tannic.

Overall: Add a drop of water and it tastes just like nectarine chunks in low fat yoghurt!

Reviews Source : http://www.masterofmalt.com/whiskies/bushmills-10-year-old-whisky/?srh=1 (http://www.masterofmalt.com/whiskies/bushmills-10-year-old-whisky/?srh=1)
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: adie on June 25, 2014, 10:07:31 AM
Had the privilege and pleasure of a guided tour of James Sedgwick distillery in Wellington yesterday.
That doesn't normally happen as the distillery isn't open to the public.
Great to meet the brains  and see the origin of my favourite tipples.

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh578/aidsyabitch/P1060650_zps9cbaa382.jpg) (http://s1252.photobucket.com/user/aidsyabitch/media/P1060650_zps9cbaa382.jpg.html)

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh578/aidsyabitch/P1060654_zps00795e6b.jpg) (http://s1252.photobucket.com/user/aidsyabitch/media/P1060654_zps00795e6b.jpg.html)

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each tank holds 80 000 litres

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Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: dkronie on June 25, 2014, 10:24:09 AM
very impressive, you very lucky
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Sparco on June 29, 2014, 12:31:23 PM
Had the privilege and pleasure of a guided tour of James Sedgwick distillery in Wellington yesterday.
That doesn't normally happen as the distillery isn't open to the public.
Great to meet the brains  and see the origin of my favourite tipples.

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(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh578/aidsyabitch/P1060664_zps1a208f40.jpg) (http://s1252.photobucket.com/user/aidsyabitch/media/P1060664_zps1a208f40.jpg.html)
each tank holds 80 000 litres

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Very nice
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: OgreZA on July 13, 2014, 05:54:51 PM
I don't believe that there is a single best. I prefer to have a choice that suits the mood and occasion. Even in a single "sippin" I like to have a number of different whiskies available. Notables are The Macallan - 12 year old. Lagavulin. Oban. Laphroaig (very medicinal -like TCP).

A Glenlievet or Glenfiddich 12 year old is a great aperitif, while a Lagavulin goes well after a meal - especially with some blue stilton.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: BWS on July 15, 2014, 07:27:08 AM
Wonder how this goes down  :BWAHAHAH: :BWAHAHAH:

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Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: dkronie on July 15, 2014, 09:13:26 AM
Chinese Whisky Knock-off, eish !!! what is next  :facepalm:  :BWAHAHAH:
Title: The Whisky thread
Post by: JayMac on July 15, 2014, 02:14:52 PM
Phew, I had a lucky let-off last night (or rather earlier this morning). My 19 year old came home with four mates and continued their little jol until 4am

My Green Label, Jameson Reserve, Talisker, Highland Park, Caol Ila and Lagavulin survived unmolested. Not true for Bells Reserve and Glen Grant 10.

The joys of parenthood!

JayJay
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Crankshaft on July 26, 2014, 11:38:16 AM
Thinking of spending up to R300 for bottle.

Any specials in Cape Town this weekend?

Quite keen on trying the Glen Grant or Bushmills 10 year olds.

Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: dkronie on July 26, 2014, 05:16:32 PM
Thinking of spending up to R300 for bottle.

Any specials in Cape Town this weekend?

Quite keen on trying the Glen Grant or Bushmills 10 year olds.
Glen Livet on special at Checkers - R339 & Glenmorangie & Glen Grant Major at PnP - R359 & R199
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: kamikazi on July 26, 2014, 07:03:46 PM
That Glen Livet as Checkers is quite a good deal. Was very tempted to buy a bottle, but I cheaped out...
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Crankshaft on July 28, 2014, 08:16:49 AM
I should have waited to read your responses!
I cheaped-out and bought a bottle of *** ****.
My next post will be in the legendary babalas thread.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: dkronie on July 28, 2014, 03:35:22 PM
I should have waited to read your responses!
I cheaped-out and bought a bottle of *** ****.
My next post will be in the legendary babalas thread.
I use the website Guzzle to check for leaflet specials, they use to tag the individual items on the leaflet and you could search keyboard etc whisky but it seems they not tagging or someone forgot to renew their subcription
http://www.guzzle.co.za/specials/catalogue/7086/#view=single&page=2 (http://www.guzzle.co.za/specials/catalogue/7086/#view=single&page=2)
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: dkronie on August 15, 2014, 12:13:04 PM
some whisky specials this weekend
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Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: andredt on August 15, 2014, 01:53:42 PM
Had a bottle of GlenLivet 12 last weekend wow i really enjoyed it more than money other whiskeys 4 times the price.
I managed to demolish the entire bottle over the weekend, that is how much i enjoyed it.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: BWS on August 15, 2014, 02:42:34 PM

I managed to demolish the entire bottle over the weekend, that is how much i enjoyed it.

Pah!

That's standard fare for me :point:
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: andredt on August 15, 2014, 03:42:15 PM
Pah!

That's standard fare for me :point:

SIgh of relief i was feeling a bit like and alchi.

I will repeat my activities then this weekend.

:)
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: GECO on August 15, 2014, 07:23:06 PM
Hey....
there is a lot of fun doing it occasionally





Specially before breakfast :P
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Atjan on August 15, 2014, 10:39:07 PM
SIgh of relief i was feeling a bit like and alchi.

I will repeat my activities then this weekend.

:)
I would only  start worrying when you demolish a bottle on a Friday and another on Saturday night.   :dop:
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: JJBGoode on September 10, 2014, 09:36:15 PM
Well, this is post 100!

Thought I'd make it about a topic that I love...WHISKY! Not so much whiskey. I prefer the Scottish stuff, definately a lot more exciting flavours for me (not so much a fan of the Irish whiskey). I like changing my go-to drinking whisky's now and then and I'm currently on a Teacher's kick. I saw someone referring to it as piss with alcohol added, haha, agree to disagree of course. That's how I feel about Johnny Walker Red and Black. I've had some Johnny Green which I thoroughly enjoyed. I really enjoy the medicinal/iodine flavour.

I am a fan of Black Bottle and have been for a long time and I think of Teachers as a toned down/cheaper and less refined version of it. I have some peat monsters: Caol Ila 12yo and Laphroaig Quarter Cask (havn't opened it yet but I have read very good things. I'm planning on getting some Ardbeg 10yo at some point and maybe some Lagavulin (I still have to mentally build up to paying R900 for a bottle if whisky) and Bunnahabhain 12yo.

Someone gave my brother a bottle of Laphroaig 12yo for his bday once and that is what actually got me hooked on the peat. Also have a Glenkinchie 12yo, a very easy drinking smooth single malt, a very good way to introduce newbies (not that I'm a pro) to the singel malt life. I find the single malts to be a bit too much for most on the first go.

Wow, still can't believe I havn't seen this whisky thread before  :facepalm:

So, does anyone have any suggestions for good whisky's to try out?  :rubhands:
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: BWS on September 11, 2014, 08:48:30 AM


So, does anyone have any suggestions for good whisky's to try out?  :rubhands:

Do your tastebuds a favour and get your hands on some Macallan. They have a broad range of ages and finishes. Oak, Sherry and all single malts.
Try the 10 year old (Oak) and the Sienna or Amber for Sherry cask finish, you will not regret
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: JJBGoode on September 11, 2014, 01:07:52 PM
Do your tastebuds a favour and get your hands on some Macallan. They have a broad range of ages and finishes. Oak, Sherry and all single malts.
Try the 10 year old (Oak) and the Sienna or Amber for Sherry cask finish, you will not regret

Thanks man. My brother actually has The Macallan 10 Year Old Fine Oak. A bit on the sweeter side of the spectrum but I thoroughly enjoyed it. Definately a very smooth whisky. I will give some of the other ones a try if I find them in the booze shop.

Whats your poison of choice?
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: BWS on September 11, 2014, 02:55:23 PM


Whats your poison of choice?

Macallan (pretty much any one I can afford)  by far and away my favourite Scotch
Glen Grant 10 Yr and up
James King 12 Yr Single (cheap as chips for a 12 yr old Speyside single) and VERY good indeed - Find it at Makro
Bushmills - All
Erin's Isle (When I can find it)



Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: JJBGoode on September 26, 2014, 08:57:09 PM
SO....it appears Black bottle has gone for a new look and also for an ENTIRE new taste more akin to the way it was when the company first launched the product 130 years ago.

To quote a Black Bottle spokesperson

"The revised blend offers a more authentic version of Black Bottle's north-eastern, late 19th century roots. Complex but approachable, it offers an excellent balance between richness and smokiness and a great texture. It's also very versatile and can be enjoyed neat or with a mixer". WITH A MIXER, thats just tragic  :vsad:

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It seems that they have ditched the fantastic rich peaty/medicinal flavours. They also said the new flavour profile is a "result of rigorous research". This is damn depressing. This is/was my favorite go to session whisky. Alas, it seems that has come to an end. I have yet to taste the revised version but if they remove the flavours that made me buy it in the first place, I really doubt I will ever see it in the same light again.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Nadfan on September 29, 2014, 11:09:18 AM
Guys, my apologies if this is duplicate, as I haven't searched through this whole thread. Has anyone bought Drayman's Single Malt - where in Joburg/ Pretoria & at what price ? I find that it has an insatiable and pleasantly different aftertaste (and it's made locally).
 
Dankie
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Atjan on September 29, 2014, 11:35:11 AM
Glen Grant launched a 50-yr old whisky this weekend. A snip at R150k / bottle. The cool thing is that their master distiller today is the same guy that made that whisky 50yrs ago.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: adie on September 29, 2014, 04:16:14 PM
A snip at R150k / bottle.
:faint:

Typo?
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: JJBGoode on October 01, 2014, 04:42:16 PM
Guys, my apologies if this is duplicate, as I haven't searched through this whole thread. Has anyone bought Drayman's Single Malt - where in Joburg/ Pretoria & at what price ? I find that it has an insatiable and pleasantly different aftertaste (and it's made locally).
 
Dankie

Well, this is not in your area exactly but it seems this site sells what you're looking for. Hope it helps  :D

http://www.aficionados.co.za/store/whisky/south-africa-and-world/-draymans-highveld-single-malt

I have never used it so I can't vouch for it unfortunately.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Nadfan on October 02, 2014, 10:29:03 AM
JJBG, thanks very much man.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: dkronie on October 02, 2014, 03:10:34 PM
The Singleton is a very good price

Anyone have experience with Aberlour 12yr ?
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Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Nirvana on October 03, 2014, 12:10:20 PM
Hi 'Dronkie'  >:D

I happen to have one of these,had a dram last eve!  :thumbs:

It's a Speyside,with a 2nd maturation in Sherry Casks.
On the nose u pick up a combination of fresh and dried fruit.Mid palate delivers chocolaty toffee flavours,with some soft spices in the background.It finishes with some gingery spice...
I wld say it's very similar to the lush Singleton,but medium/light bodied and slightly more complex.It shld do well as either an aperitif or after dinner treat.

So,it's a typical Speyside,and if these are yr poison,shld go down very well!

Btw,have any of u gents ever done any 'home blends'? Added some JWG to Black Bottle the other eve,and it tasted schweet!  :drool:
Lookin fwd to 'blending' some Teacher's and Ballantine's,one being quite rich/bold and the other delicate,just to see if they can do a Tango...  :rubhands:

Well, :dop: to the week-end!
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: JJBGoode on October 03, 2014, 05:08:14 PM
JJBG, thanks very much man.

No problem Nadfan. I hope you come right with the whisky you are looking for. Keep us updated.


The Singleton is a very good price

I've been eying The Singleton for a while now. Might have to pull the trigger on it this weekend. Although, I have been reading up on BenRiach Curiositas 10 and I like what I see. I'm a total peat and smoke  fan.


Btw,have any of u gents ever done any 'home blends'? Added some JWG to Black Bottle the other eve,and it tasted schweet!  :drool:
Lookin fwd to 'blending' some Teacher's and Ballantine's,one being quite rich/bold and the other delicate,just to see if they can do a Tango...  :rubhands:

Well, :dop: to the week-end!


I've been wondering about the blends for some time. I watch Ralfies videos on youtube and he's talked about it a few times. A very good youtube channel.....if you like whisky of course, why else would you be reading this thread  :giggle:

http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCp0k3OKqfkPW0HdRLA8JWZg

Was that Johnny Walker green or gold you mixed Nirvana and in what ratio did you mix. I'm quite keen to give mixing it a try. Lemme know what happens with the Teachers and Ballantine's. I am a big fan of the teachers.

Enjoy the weekend everyone. Cheers  :Whoohoo:
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Nirvana on October 10, 2014, 12:28:54 PM
Hi JJ

It was a blend of about 30% JW Green and the BB. Sort of increased the good points of both! Unfortunately it was the last bit of JWG,so further experimenting wld have to stand over...

Will let u know re the T&B blending,shld make for an intereshting eve or 2 of mixing and tashting! Maybe I shld keep note of all the diff't ratio's etc,just so one can revisit one's findings with evidence at hand!  :giggle:

Hehe,this cld turn into a very enjoyable game...

Cheersh!!  :mates:
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Atjan on October 10, 2014, 01:31:36 PM
I must say I was surprised to hear you used JW Green for the mix, especially considering the range has been discontinued. My one friend gave me a bottle last year Christmas and I was equally surprised he gave the bottle away. I think he was too, when I thanked him for passing it on to me, he didn't know it was becoming unobtanium!  8) Needless to say, the bottle is still not opened and I'm not planning to open it either.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: GECO on October 10, 2014, 01:36:00 PM
Green was the best JW ever, second to that is double black.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: BWS on October 10, 2014, 01:58:22 PM
I know its very personal/subjective thing but am I the only one who thinks that JW is over-priced, well-marketed pisswater?

There are SO many whisky's out there for less money than the JW's (Double black and up), Single Malts even. I guess they just have the best marketing team :sh1tstirrer:
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: andredt on October 10, 2014, 02:00:58 PM
http://www.makro.co.za/liquor/royal-salute-/br-tribute-to-honour-limited-collectors-gift-pack-/br-1-x-750ml--282360EA

On promotion at makro
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Nirvana on October 13, 2014, 11:41:08 AM
Hi Atjan,

Ja,d JWG was 'n geskenk,v 'n pel wat ok 'n 'audiofool' is,en nou in Kanada bly.
Dit was d laaste sowat dbl tot in d botl,wat ek by d laaste sowat 150-200 ml in d BB gegooi het. Ek het natuurlik nog d JWG botl,hy word eintlik nooit leeg ni...  :whistler:

Hehe
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Atjan on October 13, 2014, 11:53:25 AM
Hi Atjan,

Ja,d JWG was 'n geskenk,v 'n pel wat ok 'n 'audiofool' is,en nou in Kanada bly.
Dit was d laaste sowat dbl tot in d botl,wat ek by d laaste sowat 150-200 ml in d BB gegooi het. Ek het natuurlik nog d JWG botl,hy word eintlik nooit leeg ni...  :whistler:

Hehe
Die weduwee se kruik, maar met whisky.  :giggle:
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: JJBGoode on October 13, 2014, 07:41:49 PM
Hi JJ

It was a blend of about 30% JW Green and the BB. Sort of increased the good points of both! Unfortunately it was the last bit of JWG,so further experimenting wld have to stand over...

Will let u know re the T&B blending,shld make for an intereshting eve or 2 of mixing and tashting! Maybe I shld keep note of all the diff't ratio's etc,just so one can revisit one's findings with evidence at hand!  :giggle:

Hehe,this cld turn into a very enjoyable game...

Cheersh!!  :mates:

Haha, yeah I think by the 4th of 5th dram, the notes start becoming rather important as the memory gets misty  :Ooooooh:


I know its very personal/subjective thing but am I the only one who thinks that JW is over-priced, well-marketed pisswater?

There are SO many whisky's out there for less money than the JW's (Double black and up), Single Malts even. I guess they just have the best marketing team :sh1tstirrer:

I tend to agree with you there. I personally would never ever purchase a bottle of Johnny Blue. Having said that, a year or 2 back I bought a 1L bottle of Johnny Walker green (got it at a booze shop for R450). I really enjoyed it but I love the medicinal/iodine flavour which it had heaps of  ;D  Right you are, there are a looooot of single malts out there, especially in that R400 - R650 range that I want to try before I will get around to JW double black. I have a hard time paying that much for a blend (not that blends are bad) but that's just me  :whistler:  I just picked this up Saturday and look forward to diggin into it. It seems to tick all the right flavour boxes  :rubhands:

http://www.bottleshop.co.za/benriach-curiositas-10-year-old-whisky/


http://www.makro.co.za/liquor/royal-salute-/br-tribute-to-honour-limited-collectors-gift-pack-/br-1-x-750ml--282360EA

On promotion at makro

WOW, someone should jump on this while there is still stock left  :giggle:


Hi Atjan,

Ja,d JWG was 'n geskenk,v 'n pel wat ok 'n 'audiofool' is,en nou in Kanada bly.
Dit was d laaste sowat dbl tot in d botl,wat ek by d laaste sowat 150-200 ml in d BB gegooi het. Ek het natuurlik nog d JWG botl,hy word eintlik nooit leeg ni...  :whistler:

Hehe

Jaaaaa and now Black Bottle as we knew is is no more either  :vsad:  I've tried the new one and it's not for me.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Nirvana on October 14, 2014, 12:45:02 PM
Ag nooo man,that's not good to hear!  :vsad:

How has the taste bn altered? Don't want to buy and find I don't like it,I didn't think that they wld want to re-invent a wheel that was spinning so well!  :thinking:

btw Dkronie,did u ever get around to buying that Aberlour 12 year ?

Cheers
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: andredt on October 15, 2014, 08:41:51 AM
Go to the makro website and look for the Xmas liquor catalog they have a massively impressive range of whiskey on offer.   
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: prajayn on October 15, 2014, 10:43:04 AM
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Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: JJBGoode on October 15, 2014, 12:29:27 PM
Ag nooo man,that's not good to hear!  :vsad:

How has the taste bn altered? Don't want to buy and find I don't like it,I didn't think that they wld want to re-invent a wheel that was spinning so well!  :thinking:

btw Dkronie,did u ever get around to buying that Aberlour 12 year ?

Cheers

Yeah, it's a crying shame Nirvana  :vsad: From what I read it seems like they rebranded/reblended according to market research. The peaty flavour is almost all gone. It tastes a bit sharper. I have a little of the old one left and I will be saving that for a special occasion :winkwink: Here's a video that describes it well. He does very good reviews.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhlV8zyk4Os


Go to the makro website and look for the Xmas liquor catalog they have a massively impressive range of whiskey on offer.   

Thanks for that andredt. I downloaded the catalogue and WOW, that is a crazy selection  :o  I will definitely be paying them a visit.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Stefan on November 26, 2014, 06:23:01 PM
Heads up.
Lagavulin is on special at Checkers for R779. Beats Makro's on promo price at R869.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: FranZAR on November 26, 2014, 07:01:34 PM
This one doesn't look too bad...
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Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: FranZAR on November 26, 2014, 07:02:57 PM
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Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: andredt on December 01, 2014, 10:59:11 AM
Found my new weekly favorite glen livet 12y/0 its not to pricey to be had in the week and i really enjoy it.

 
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: kamikazi on December 01, 2014, 11:40:37 AM
I have gone 2 months without a bottle of whisky in the house... :vsad:
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: BWS on December 01, 2014, 11:42:30 AM
I have gone 2 months without a bottle of whisky in the house... :vsad:

Who are you and where is DaftPilot ?

I would have shot my house by now :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: andredt on December 01, 2014, 12:03:30 PM
Yoh i struggle to do 2 days without the nectar :D
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: kamikazi on December 01, 2014, 12:13:53 PM
Who are you and where is DaftPilot ?

I would have shot my house by now :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:

Saved two months whisky so I could buy a bottle of Lagavulin 16y/o for December, hope it will be worth it! :Whoohoo:

Also very tempted by the Glenlivet Nadurra Olorosso which Checkers is selling for what looks a great price for a very limited edition. The tasting notes look very interesting.. :thinking: But I haven't sampled the Lagavulin yet, I feel like I'm missing a rite of passage whisky badge.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: BWS on December 01, 2014, 12:30:56 PM
I have a Macallan 18yr old in mind for December :drool:

http://www.themacallan.com/the-whisky/sherry-oak/sherry-oak-18/
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: andredt on December 01, 2014, 12:45:30 PM
I have a Macallan 18yr old in mind for December :drool:

http://www.themacallan.com/the-whisky/sherry-oak/sherry-oak-18/

A bit rich for me.

I have bought the cheaper versions before and was not as amazing as i thought it would be for the price.

Buy 2 i also want one.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: kamikazi on December 01, 2014, 05:46:14 PM
Lagavulin 16 y/o = Dettol with a supersmooth finish
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: BWS on December 02, 2014, 07:05:39 AM
Lagavulin 16 y/o = Dettol with a supersmooth finish

 :ROFLMAO: That bad?
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: kamikazi on December 02, 2014, 09:50:14 AM
Have to say I prefer Laphroaig at this stage. The iodine taste with the Lagavulin is very evident especially in the finish, whilst with Laphroaig its more evident in the nose. The smokiness, peat and slight oily texture in the Laphroaig also overwhelms the senses a bit more. I really like it with a bit of ice. The Laphroaig can't touch the Lagavulin for a smooth and silky finish, it is also much more delicate. Very interesting whisky, but definitely for the connoisseur, both are heavy hitters. It makes Talisker whisky seem very one dimensional in comparison which is a bit of a bridge from the more floral whiskies to the smoky peat ones. I think I'm going to take some time to finish this bottle, definitely one for the occasion and not regular drinking. Its less likely to scare your friends than the Laphroaig! :point:
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: avflarkit on December 10, 2014, 02:42:08 PM
Need to choose my December treat

Macallan Amber (had it previously, loved it)
Tullamore Dew Phoenix (55%, so it might not be to my liking)
Glenmorangie Quinta Ruban
Redbreast 12yr old?
perhaps give Nikka Black a try?

Decisions, decisions...
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: BWS on December 10, 2014, 02:43:28 PM
Need to choose my December treat

Macallan Amber (had it previously, loved it)
Tullamore Dew Phoenix (55%, so it might not be to my liking)
Glenmorangie Quinta Ruban
perhaps give the Nikka Black a try?

Decisions, decisions...

No Brainer
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: avflarkit on December 10, 2014, 02:49:31 PM
No Brainer

I hear ya, and I'm almost there. But then I keep thinking of all the new tastes I could be trying! I just read up on "Auchentonshan
12 YO Triple Distilled Lowland Single Malt", which has me very curious too.


Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: BWS on December 10, 2014, 02:58:49 PM
 ^^So like the Irish do it then :giggle:
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Shonver on December 10, 2014, 03:13:26 PM
Guys, I'm no whiskee connoisseur, but I did once buy Irish Mist (blended with honey or somesuch), which I liked, but can't seem to find any more. Any recommendations for a similar drink?
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: avflarkit on December 10, 2014, 06:16:31 PM
^^So like the Irish do it then :giggle:

Did you say 'Irish'? I decided to live dangerously and grabbed the Tullamore Dew Phoenix: "pot still whiskey finished in old oloroso sherry casks". Now the challenge will be to leave 'er untouched until Christmas.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Atjan on December 11, 2014, 01:28:18 PM
 :O0:
Guys, I'm no whiskee connoisseur, but I did once buy Irish Mist (blended with honey or somesuch), which I liked, but can't seem to find any more. Any recommendations for a similar drink?
Try Jim Beam Devil's Cut. About R260 for the bottle, but its mothers' milk. Not proper whiskey though.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Shonver on December 11, 2014, 01:32:14 PM
Thanks. Will try it.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: TimbaLand on January 10, 2015, 12:08:20 PM
Have to say I prefer Laphroaig at this stage. The iodine taste with the Lagavulin is very evident especially in the finish, whilst with Laphroaig its more evident in the nose. The smokiness, peat and slight oily texture in the Laphroaig also overwhelms the senses a bit more. I really like it with a bit of ice. The Laphroaig can't touch the Lagavulin for a smooth and silky finish, it is also much more delicate. Very interesting whisky, but definitely for the connoisseur, both are heavy hitters. It makes Talisker whisky seem very one dimensional in comparison which is a bit of a bridge from the more floral whiskies to the smoky peat ones. I think I'm going to take some time to finish this bottle, definitely one for the occasion and not regular drinking. Its less likely to scare your friends than the Laphroaig! :point:

I bought a bottle of Laphroig before and I liked it. I like how the aroma hits you as the glass approached the mouth
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: JJBGoode on January 15, 2015, 10:23:02 AM
Have to say I prefer Laphroaig at this stage. The iodine taste with the Lagavulin is very evident especially in the finish, whilst with Laphroaig its more evident in the nose. The smokiness, peat and slight oily texture in the Laphroaig also overwhelms the senses a bit more. I really like it with a bit of ice. The Laphroaig can't touch the Lagavulin for a smooth and silky finish, it is also much more delicate. Very interesting whisky, but definitely for the connoisseur, both are heavy hitters. It makes Talisker whisky seem very one dimensional in comparison which is a bit of a bridge from the more floral whiskies to the smoky peat ones. I think I'm going to take some time to finish this bottle, definitely one for the occasion and not regular drinking. Its less likely to scare your friends than the Laphroaig! :point:

I can't recall how many times I have eyeballed the Lagavulin 16 y/o in the shops. I just can't seem to get myself to pull the trigger on it. I doubt I could stop drinking whisky for 2 months to save money for it. Love your description btw.

Lagavulin 16 y/o = Dettol with a supersmooth finish

That's what I love about these peat monsters. Its like someone spilled a galon of dettol in a log cabin where they're burning a peat fire.....and bottled the essence.
I recently stumbled upon a low priced whiskey I REALLY enjoy. It's not a Scottish whisky (I feel like I'm cheating) but a bourbon whiskey so it counts as whisky/ey  :rubhands: Anyway, it's called Hogs 3 bourbon. I got it at Makro for R140 a bottle. Seems to be the only brick and mortar store where I can find it (www.bottleshop.co.za also has it). I've had a lot of Jack in my life and Jim Beam white, which both cost quite a bit more. I think the Hogs beats them hands down. It's just a much cleaner taste to me (granted, I have not had Jack or JB white in a while). The other 2 seems a bit artificial and overly sweet. Maybe the Scotch whisky's have just ruined my palate for sweeter spirits  :giggle: but I love the stuff. Do yourself a favour and pick up a bottle. At 140 a pop you can't go wrong if you don't like it. Definitely a bourbon for whisky drinkers. It's a strange one I gotta say  :thinking: it is made in America, shipped over to Scotland, bottled and shipped from there. Maybe the Scotts did something to it there cause it's a damn nice spirit.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: dkronie on January 15, 2015, 11:27:06 AM
Quote
Lagavulin 16 y/o = Dettol with a supersmooth finish
The first time I tried Laphroig  , it was paired with blue cheese , not being a blue cheese lover , I first had it without and all I remember is iodine , when paired with the blue cheese , spicy , creamy , smoky notes was enhanced then it becomes a really nice whickey

Maybe try it with some blue cheese


Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: kamikazi on January 15, 2015, 03:20:04 PM
Dang, I'm now hungry...

Still haven't finished my bottle of Lagavulin, but I have grown to appreciate it a lot, it definitely is something special. I think one of the reasons I like the Laphroaig more because adding a touch of water, which I usually do, actually gels quite well and brings out more of the subtleties in the flavour. The Lagavulin abhors such treatment so you have to take your time when having it with a bit of ice. If it wasn't for the iodine finish this would have been one of the best whiskies I've ever tasted. I tried my standard fare Johnny Walker Black whilst on holiday and didn't remember it tasting that bad... :help: I need a new every day dram...
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: andredt on January 15, 2015, 03:26:55 PM
Been drinking james king 12Y/O pretty cheap and pretty smooth :D
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: BWS on January 15, 2015, 03:40:57 PM
Been drinking james king 12Y/O pretty cheap and pretty smooth :D

The single malt ? VERY under-rated. A top class Speyside single that
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: andredt on January 15, 2015, 04:21:09 PM
Indeed yes.

Got a case at makro over the festive season for next to nothing.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: TimbaLand on January 27, 2015, 09:19:38 PM
Indeed yes.

Got a case at makro over the festive season for next to nothing.

Maybe one needs to visit you
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: kamikazi on January 27, 2015, 09:40:23 PM
Haven't been able to source the King James here. I tried the 12y/o Monkey Shoulder, but it taste like s**t...

Bottle of Lagavulin also reached an end... Its January alright! :vsad:
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Scrat on January 27, 2015, 10:23:11 PM
Has anyone seen J&B 15yo recently? Can't find it anywhere, and mine is done for! Please drop me a pm if you come across my old friend anywhere...

(http://maboozecity.co.za/wp-content/uploads/JB-Reserve-15-YO-750ml2-225x300.jpg)
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Juggy on January 28, 2015, 10:43:01 AM
I tried some stuff I have never seen before this past weekend.

Monkey Shoulder, taste a little strong and peaty for my liking although it's not too bad to finish the bottle
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: avflarkit on January 28, 2015, 01:12:31 PM
Some feedback on the Tullamore Phoenix 55%: it's not as easy-going and laid-back as the regular Tullies. It's much sharper and needs a spot of ice to calm the beast, IMO.

Since this will clearly not be consumed at the same rate that I enjoy me dram, I stocked up on some Greenore 8yr Old, which the local Liquor City has (*shhhh!*) for R350, compared to Makro's R499.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: TimbaLand on January 29, 2015, 04:43:40 PM
I tried some stuff I have never seen before this past weekend.

Monkey Shoulder, taste a little strong and peaty for my liking although it's not too bad to finish the bottle

I was given Monkey Shoulder by a colleague. I enjoyed it
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Doge on January 29, 2015, 05:05:41 PM
Bottle of Lagavulin also reached an end... Its January alright! :vsad:

Love the stuff, tried a cherry cask finish Talisker and I nearly lost it, was like crack/cocaine. So I got this, still haven't opened it after nearly 2 years, still don't know when to fix that :nutter:

(http://s18.postimg.org/6rc5kq85l/980416_10151367294306353_1228622037_o.jpg)
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: kamikazi on January 29, 2015, 06:13:15 PM
:drool: :drool:
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Doge on January 29, 2015, 06:57:46 PM
You know what? I decided to open it when I got home because hell, I could die tomorrow. I'm actually very disappointed, the second cask seems to make it worse than the 16yr :vsad:

This glass IS growing on me though, but I just remember the Talisker being better.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: kamikazi on January 29, 2015, 11:36:22 PM
You know that is a great line to ask any collector, especially the ones with hoarding tendencies. Zero fun in leaving your whisky collection behind for others to enjoy! :point: I also enjoyed the Talisker, especially the peppery finish. The Monkey Shoulder got donated to a new owner, back on JW Black.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Doge on January 29, 2015, 11:56:27 PM
I also enjoyed the Talisker

Just do double check, we both talking about the Distiller's Edition? Usually I prefer Lagavulin to the Talisker 18yr even but that DE is my katnip :drool:
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: kamikazi on January 30, 2015, 12:20:24 PM
I'm talking about the standard 10 y/o Talisker, but the Lagavulin 16 y/o is a much better whisky in terms of refinement.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: andredt on February 03, 2015, 12:25:54 PM
No way i could collect whiskey every time i start building up some it gets consumed. :d
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Juggy on February 04, 2015, 12:38:44 PM
I was given Monkey Shoulder by a colleague. I enjoyed it

It did grow on me and was finished eventually but I'll return to my Glen Grant which I far prefer.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: BWS on February 12, 2015, 08:39:52 AM
(https://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2015/02/howtomaketheperfectmartini-11949.jpg?w=660&h=880)
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: JJBGoode on February 15, 2015, 09:06:42 AM
Love the stuff, tried a cherry cask finish Talisker and I nearly lost it, was like crack/cocaine. So I got this, still haven't opened it after nearly 2 years, still don't know when to fix that :nutter:

(http://s18.postimg.org/6rc5kq85l/980416_10151367294306353_1228622037_o.jpg)

Wow Doge that looks friggin amazing. Where did you get the cherry cask Talisker if I may ask?

P.S. For anyone interested, Checkers is selling Bain's for R180 a bottle. Not a bad price. Its usually about R210.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Doge on February 15, 2015, 07:28:05 PM
I got it at Wild About Whisky in Dullstroom :thumbs:
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: JJBGoode on February 15, 2015, 08:14:06 PM
I got it at Wild About Whisky in Dullstroom :thumbs:

Ah ok thanks Doge. Might be just a little too far for me to drive  :be:

(http://i771.photobucket.com/albums/xx354/JJBGoode/whiskyshit_zpsfb08f579.jpg)
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: senyetse on February 16, 2015, 11:25:53 AM
Page 1 of this thread (from 2008) has jokes about load shedding.  And here we are again in 2015...
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: dkronie on February 16, 2015, 11:36:33 AM
I got it at Wild About Whisky in Dullstroom :thumbs:
AFIK Dullstroom has the biggest Whisky Bar in South Africa  , would like to visit 1 Day but a bit far from Cpt  :Ooooooh:

Is the selection impressive ?


Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Schmuck on February 16, 2015, 11:41:43 AM

Is the selection impressive ?

It is indeed.
If I remember correctly, the owner once stated that he carries about R2Million of stock at any given time.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: JohnnyIC on April 29, 2015, 03:37:36 PM
I still like the old Black Bottle, but it's getting harder and harder to find.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: dkronie on May 14, 2015, 11:44:12 AM
World Whisky Day Promotion 20% off Single Malts until 16 May , 3 deals per person

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CE843X_W0AA_BsB.png)

Source : https://twitter.com/CheckersSA/status/598759799896068096/photo/1
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: JJBGoode on May 14, 2015, 12:04:54 PM
I still like the old Black Bottle, but it's getting harder and harder to find.

Same here Johnny. It was my favorite blended whisky. It's a damn shame they changed it.


World Whisky Day Promotion 20% off Single Malts until 16 May , 3 deals per person

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CE843X_W0AA_BsB.png)

Source : https://twitter.com/CheckersSA/status/598759799896068096/photo/1

WOW! :drool: Thanks for the heads up dkronie.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: dkronie on May 14, 2015, 02:06:52 PM
I still like the old Black Bottle, but it's getting harder and harder to find.
Sure I saw Black Bottle at my local store with a sticker on New Blend , maybe they have a new master blender

Here is the speoials
https://specials.checkers.co.za/deals/howorldwhiskydayspecials14may16may/files/assets/basic-html/index.html#1
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: kamikazi on May 14, 2015, 02:55:49 PM
Relaunched Black Bottle is terrible.

Thanks for sharing that offer, quite a nice one! May hasn't been kind to the budget though..
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: vleisman on May 14, 2015, 03:13:48 PM
So the prodigal son pitched up unannounced the other evening, bearing a bottle of Ardbeg. What a peach of a whisky, lots of peat and not as 'oily' as Laphroig (how did these damn Scots come up with these names?). Haven't had much in the way of decent whisky recently, this is my new favourite, savouring every drop.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: dkronie on May 16, 2015, 09:18:52 AM
World Whisky Day Promotion 20% off Single Malts until 16 May , 3 deals per person

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CE843X_W0AA_BsB.png)

Source : https://twitter.com/CheckersSA/status/598759799896068096/photo/1
Just watch out , the till point at Checkers does not work out 20% discount seems to be 10% , so just check before you pay
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: JJBGoode on May 17, 2015, 02:00:24 PM
So the prodigal son pitched up unannounced the other evening, bearing a bottle of Ardbeg. What a peach of a whisky, lots of peat and not as 'oily' as Laphroig (how did these damn Scots come up with these names?). Haven't had much in the way of decent whisky recently, this is my new favourite, savouring every drop.

Hmm, that's one whisky thats been on my list for a while now. Think it will be my next purchase. I picked up a bottle of Talisker 10 y/o yesterday at Checkers cause the price was just too good  :rubhands:  Really looking forward to trying it. Thanks again dkronie for the heads up. You made my weekend  :thumbs:
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: JJBGoode on May 27, 2015, 11:46:38 AM
For those interested Pick n Pay has a special on some whiskeys  :)

http://www.picknpay.co.za/catalogues

Seems like it is in celebrations of the Whisky Live festival.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: dkronie on May 29, 2015, 01:15:45 PM
For those interested Pick n Pay has a special on some whiskeys  :)

http://www.picknpay.co.za/catalogues

Seems like it is in celebrations of the Whisky Live festival.
:2thumbs:

Glenburgie Single Malt Whisky - only 240 bottles on pre-order available,link below
https://www.checkers.co.za/foodandwine/LiquorShop/Pages/Pre-order.aspx
(https://www.checkers.co.za/foodandwine/LiquorShop/PublishingImages/PrivateBarrel-GlenBurgie.jpg)
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: JJBGoode on June 02, 2015, 11:19:51 AM
Ooohh, a little rich for my blood good sir  :Ooooooh:  plus it would probably drive me crazy having to drink a bottle that I can never get again.

BTW. Anyone here going to the Whisky Live festival in Cape Town? I already got my tickets and I am super excited  :Whoohoo:
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: robmac on June 05, 2015, 02:25:59 PM
Looking for: Bushmills 16yo Cape town - please let me know if you see any..
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: BWS on June 05, 2015, 02:55:13 PM
Looking for: Bushmills 16yo Cape town - please let me know if you see any..

Tops at Rosmead center has a bottle
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: vleisman on June 05, 2015, 04:58:40 PM
The SWAMBO brought me a Jura gift set, 3 little 200ml bottles. 1 x Superstition, 1 x Diurach's Own and 1 x Prophecy. Busy with a bit of the Superstition to ward off the cold. Very pleasant, rich and a bit smoky, but not super special.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: dkronie on June 19, 2015, 11:25:32 AM
Cape Town - Whisky Live Showroom - The Lookout, Granger Bay

http://www.whiskylivefestival.co.za/venues/venues-cape-town.php#tab3
(http://cdn.ticketpros.co.za/images/large_cfa3245e-c551-6fe2-f9d6-5551fb0f3314.jpg)
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: BWS on June 25, 2015, 07:28:06 AM
(https://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/a-little-inspiration-goes-a-long-way-23-photos-14.jpg?w=600&h=537)
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: kamikazi on June 25, 2015, 09:39:51 AM
^^  :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Tom on July 19, 2015, 10:35:30 AM
http://www.gumtree.co.za/a-antiques-collectables/inner-city-cbd-bruma/white-horse-miniature-collectible-+-rare-+-1939/1001369964750910011259809 (http://www.gumtree.co.za/a-antiques-collectables/inner-city-cbd-bruma/white-horse-miniature-collectible-+-rare-+-1939/1001369964750910011259809)
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Doogle on July 19, 2015, 01:47:58 PM
Not being much of a whisky drinker, however read through this whole thread - very interesting!

Memories of my dad drinking Haig and Dimple Haig - no-one has mentioned them, are they still around?

Also as a kid, always got given the tiny plastic horse that used to hang around the bottle neck of White Horse! Is that still around?

Just curious.......

Doogle
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Tom on July 19, 2015, 01:55:35 PM
Dimple Scotts by John Haig

(http://www.gumtree.co.za/a-antiques-collectables/inner-city-cbd-bruma/dimple-scotts-miniature-collectible/1001369997120910011259809)
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Penates on July 19, 2015, 05:55:53 PM
Very Good!! :Whoohoo:
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: kamikazi on July 19, 2015, 09:07:01 PM
Bought a bottle of Dimple a couple of months back and quite enjoyed it!
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: thomtom on July 21, 2015, 01:27:42 PM
https://www.ngf.co.za/promotions/single-malts.html

This is not a bad deal.  R 2200 for four bottles!
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Doge on July 21, 2015, 02:18:57 PM
 :drool: been looking to get another bottle of Lagavulin, don't mind adding the Talikser and Dalwhinnie to that at all
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: JohnnyIC on July 24, 2015, 02:17:24 PM
Not sure if this is only in Bloem or across the country but it's a serious bargain:
@ Pick n Pay liquor

(http://s2.postimg.org/7nyyzaga1/20150724_125443.jpg)
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: BWS on July 24, 2015, 02:29:30 PM
Sho!!! I'm guessing its almost cheaper than the sh1t on the shelf below :point:
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: JohnnyIC on July 24, 2015, 02:39:17 PM
Sho!!! I'm guessing its almost cheaper than the sh1t on the shelf below :point:

I didn't even check but I'm pretty sure it is cheaper. I think they are getting rid of all their old Black Bottle stock to replace it with the new crap tasting one.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Johnnie on July 24, 2015, 09:14:06 PM
(http://static.wine-searcher.net/images/labels/24/14/highland-queen-8-years-old-blended-scotch-whisky-scotland-10442414.jpg)

This 8 year blend is really enjoyable!
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: jvr on July 29, 2015, 12:25:54 PM
I didn't even check but I'm pretty sure it is cheaper. I think they are getting rid of all their old Black Bottle stock to replace it with the new crap tasting one.
Just out of curiosity and seeing that I have never tasted this, do you imply that the existing Black Bottle is any good?? Is it worth it to buy and try?
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Atjan on July 29, 2015, 01:44:53 PM
I have a near empty bottle of Highland Queen in the cupboard. Pretty good, but I enjoy Glen Grant more, to be honest. Same sort of whiskey, the latter just seems smoother.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: kamikazi on July 29, 2015, 01:53:39 PM
Just out of curiosity and seeing that I have never tasted this, do you imply that the existing Black Bottle is any good?? Is it worth it to buy and try?
The old Black Bottle had some nice Islay malts in their blend which made it a nice alternative. The new one has been toned down and is not as good as the original.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: jvr on July 29, 2015, 03:15:41 PM
^^ How will I know whether it is the old or new blend?
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: BWS on July 29, 2015, 03:36:35 PM
New bottle I believe ? I don't drink it so not sure
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: kamikazi on July 29, 2015, 04:01:51 PM
Apologies for the large images. The new one has a new bottle as indicated.

New:
(https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.whisky.dk%2Fimages%2Fblack_bottle_new_blended_scotch_whisky-p.jpg&f=1)

Old:
(https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bakersandlarners.co.uk%2Fuploads%2Fimages%2Fproducts%2Fproduct_3741_large.jpg&f=1)
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Doge on July 29, 2015, 04:04:27 PM
Apologies for the large images. The new one has a new bottle as indicated.

You can scale them in the tag [img width=300] ... height also works
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: kamikazi on July 29, 2015, 04:05:42 PM
You can scale them in the tag [img width=300... height also works

Awesome thanks, learnt something new! :thumbs:
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: jvr on July 29, 2015, 05:03:55 PM
Thanks guys. I will be on the look out for one of the old ones @ a good price. So far I had no luck even finding it :(
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: JJBGoode on July 30, 2015, 01:01:50 PM
Not sure if this is only in Bloem or across the country but it's a serious bargain:
@ Pick n Pay liquor

(http://s2.postimg.org/7nyyzaga1/20150724_125443.jpg)

That is a damn steal!  :drool: If it was here I would have bought every last bottle  :walled:  I've been looking all around here in the Pick n Pays liquor stores, not a single original Black Bottle in sight. I loved the old blend, as kamikazi said, it has a hefty portion of islay malt in it (I'm crazy about islay whisky) which just made it awesome. And not too much caramel colour added. The new one however.....no peat taste and PLENTY of fake caramel colouring. It's just a sub par whisky now, a real shame  :vsad:
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Atjan on July 30, 2015, 08:22:41 PM
I checked in  PnP and could only find the R279 bottle. Might be a local special or an error in the store
 Eitherway, load every last of them in a trolley and make off before they realize their mistake. >:D
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: jvr on July 31, 2015, 08:38:13 AM
Talking of PnP Liquor. I noticed that they have a special on Johnnie Walker Black. R256 for 750ml...that is about 20% off normal price. While you at it, you may wanna consider 12 Amstels @ R90 ;D Not sure how long their specials last, but I saw it the other day whilst looking for the Black Bottle.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: BWS on July 31, 2015, 09:16:11 AM
Talking of PnP Liquor. I noticed that they have a special on Johnnie Walker Black. R256 for 750ml...

That's about R255 too much
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: dkronie on July 31, 2015, 09:56:00 AM
That's about R255 too much
:thumbs: :ROFLMAO:
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Doge on July 31, 2015, 11:47:52 AM
That's about R255 too much

 :giggle:
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: JohnnyIC on July 31, 2015, 11:57:30 AM
Malt snobs..  :giggle:
I have yet to taste a blended Whisky as good as the old Black bottle, the new blend is crap though.
Ralfy agrees: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBhWRcGqLwA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBhWRcGqLwA)
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: kamikazi on July 31, 2015, 02:24:24 PM
Yeah, I quite my blends, a lot of malts can be a bit one dimensional.

I finally had a chance to sample Macallan Amber at a hotel recently and it was quite good stuff, but not entirely convinced I'd buy a bottle of stuff.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: BWS on July 31, 2015, 02:26:47 PM
Yeah, I quite my blends, a lot of malts can be a bit one dimensional.

I finally had a chance to sample Macallan Amber at a hotel recently and it was quite good stuff, but not entirely convinced I'd buy a bottle of stuff.

The Sienna is the one you want to try
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: AnarchyR on July 31, 2015, 02:30:31 PM
Ballentines is actually quite nice.... the norm or the 12 year old
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: JJBGoode on August 01, 2015, 10:43:01 AM
Ballentines is actually quite nice.... the norm or the 12 year old

I totally agree about the Ballantines 12 year old (I currently have 2 bottles, one half empty  ;D ). I tasted it the first time at Whisky Live in Cape Town earlier in June and just had to have some. It is my second favorite blended whisky after OLD Black Bottle.

A good blended/vatted Malt (blend of younger single malts) to try is Monkey Shoulder. I have read reviews saying it tastes like cheap alcohol but I totally disagree. The first dram I poured was rather alcohol like and the flavor was not great. Then I let it stand with the cork off for half an hour, gave the bottle a good shake and closed it. The next evening I gave it another go and WOW, a totally different whisky. It's now regular in my stable  :thumbs:
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: kamikazi on August 02, 2015, 10:47:01 PM
I was a bit disappointed with Ballantines or Monkey Shoulder, they aren't bad blends, but expected a bit more. They have too much caramel in the taste for my liking.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: BWS on August 03, 2015, 07:26:23 AM
gave the bottle a good shake and closed it.

Any whisky that needs a shake to be palatable goes in the trash IMO. Subjective I know, but there's better for less out there
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: JJBGoode on August 03, 2015, 11:07:00 AM
Any whisky that needs a shake to be palatable goes in the trash IMO. Subjective I know, but there's better for less out there


Well, I would hardly say it was unpalatable, it was just not that amazing. Of course, the whole whisky business is subjective but if you've just spent R280 on a bottle that tastes so-so and all it needs is that to make it taste a whole lot better (and unlocks its true potential), I'm open to that  :D  People aerate red wine all the time and that's ok  ;D  I actually got the idea from Ralfy on youtube and it worked for me so I was happy.

It would also take a looooot for me to write off and chuck a whisky. I would just use it as a mixer. I try and find something good in all the whiskies I try. It's just that sometimes, there's not a lot of it :giggle:

PS. I'm genuinely interested in suggestions for good whiskies at that price range  :thumbs:  Me and my buddy always purchase and share a bottle to see whats out there and what's good.....and whats not.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: BWS on August 03, 2015, 11:46:01 AM


PS. I'm genuinely interested in suggestions for good whiskies at that price range  :thumbs:  Me and my buddy always purchase and share a bottle to see whats out there and what's good.....and whats not.

R250.00 - R280.00 ?

Glen Grant single malt
James King 12 yr Single malt (Find it at Makro for a steal)
Baines
Kilbeggan (Irish)


Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Juggy on August 03, 2015, 11:55:46 AM
I think I am in love, decided to go against my judgement of a bottle of 12yr Glenmorangie and bought the below

https://www.makro.co.za/liquor/aberlour-/br-12-yo-highland-single-malt-scotch-whisky-in-gift-tube-/br-1-x-750ml--205785EA

This stuff is absolutely incredible, I recommend anyone that likes single malt gives it a go.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: JJBGoode on August 03, 2015, 12:11:47 PM
R250.00 - R280.00 ?

Glen Grant single malt
James King 12 yr Single malt (Find it at Makro for a steal)
Baines
Kilbeggan (Irish)

Thanks BWS. I will give these guys a try over the next few months. I have had the Glen Grant before but remember it being a tad harsh (I assume because of the young age) but it has been a long time and many bottles of whisky ago (the palate develops after all). I will give it another try. I have a bottle of James King 12 yo single malt that's half done. I dig the stuff but Makro does not sell it anymore, it's not even on their site  :nfi:  and yes for R250 it is/was indeed dirt cheap for a cracker of a whisky. Bain's is always in stock here as well, proudly South African all the way. Kilbeggan, will give it a try  :thumbs:
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: BWS on October 01, 2015, 07:17:57 AM
A truth Whisky drinkers all know :point:

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Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: ron g on October 03, 2015, 09:43:32 AM
sorry - wrong place  :cleansound:
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Rotten Johnny on October 03, 2015, 10:03:04 AM
Monkey Shoulder is a pretty drinkable everyday drop.  Got a bottle from a friend and worked my way through a few since.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Roux28 on October 03, 2015, 01:23:00 PM
Monkey Shoulder is a pretty drinkable everyday drop.  Got a bottle from a friend and worked my way through a few since.

I have seen outpourings of hatred against Monkey Shoulder on other forums, almost as intense as those against B&W on this forum, but I have to agree with you - I also enjoy it.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: kamikazi on October 03, 2015, 09:06:15 PM
Just like B&W you have your fans and your detractors. Don't let the detractors stop you from enjoying your dram. I didn't like it, was more than happy to give my unfinished bottle away and won't buy it again, it just was not to my liking at all.

Tried a bottle of Scottish Leader Signature whisky and it's running JW Black quite close. JW Black is a bit more refined though, but against the former it feels very overpriced. If you're not buying your JW from Makro I'd give it a skip now, pricing is quite poor VFM.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: TimbaLand on October 04, 2015, 10:34:42 AM
I was in Turkey for 2 months and I was shocked at the price of booze there. I only drank whiskey once and I drank whiskey which I would normally not drink here. 3 double tots of Johny Walker Black cost me abt R1200. Most places don't even have the whiskey selection we have here because it will just sit on the shelf. I found myself drinking wine most of the time which was about which was about R100 for cheap wine.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: xenithon on October 05, 2015, 09:43:57 AM
I really enjoyed the Nikka Pure Malt Black which I got to taste last night. Surprisingly strong initially but mellows out without a nasty, lingering aftertaste.

(https://img.thewhiskyexchange.com/900/japan_nik5.jpg)
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Nikkel on October 05, 2015, 02:29:49 PM
I was in Turkey for 2 months and I was shocked at the price of booze there. I only drank whiskey once and I drank whiskey which I would normally not drink here. 3 double tots of Johny Walker Black cost me abt R1200. Most places don't even have the whiskey selection we have here because it will just sit on the shelf. I found myself drinking wine most of the time which was about which was about R100 for cheap wine.
I think you should stay away from the cheap stuff as its detrimental to your grammar :point:  :giggle:
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: PvA on October 05, 2015, 02:50:42 PM
Where do you guys buy your Wizzas (online specifically)?  Had a quick glance at http://www.bottleshop.co.za/beyerskloof-pinotage/ and the beyerskloof is already R20 a bottle more than what Makro charge.  Didn't compare wizzas though.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: kamikazi on October 05, 2015, 05:53:43 PM
Afaik you can buy online from Makro as well?
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: TimbaLand on October 05, 2015, 10:26:27 PM
I think you should stay away from the cheap stuff as its detrimental to your grammar :point:  :giggle:

I'm Still hung over from cheap wine
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: dkronie on October 27, 2015, 02:23:00 PM
One Day only Whisky Auction - Andy Watts signing your purchase
http://themasterscollection.threeshipswhisky.co.za/buy
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Juggy on October 27, 2015, 03:23:14 PM
One Day only Whisky Auction - Andy Watts signing your purchase
http://themasterscollection.threeshipswhisky.co.za/buy

Nice, thank you. Picked one up for my brothers collection
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: dkronie on October 27, 2015, 03:46:00 PM
 
Nice, thank you. Picked one up for my brothers collection
:thumbs: , I think it's a great concept the auction, SA's first single malt
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: kamikazi on October 27, 2015, 04:36:40 PM
Awesome, picked up one as well. Will do nicely for x-mas this year! Great to see them come out with a single malt.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: kamikazi on October 27, 2015, 06:06:55 PM
Judging by the current commotion and head scratching on the live feed I imagine something or someone screwed up. The bottle I've claimed has been signed to somebody else and seeing Andy Watts furiously texting on his phone makes me think a few others might have had the same fate... :thinking:

There are still a couple to be claimed backed by empty spaces on the shelf so the way bottles were distributed and the notes written out was definitely not done by "exact" scientific method...
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: dkronie on October 28, 2015, 12:22:05 AM
Judging by the current commotion and head scratching on the live feed I imagine something or someone screwed up. The bottle I've claimed has been signed to somebody else and seeing Andy Watts furiously texting on his phone makes me think a few others might have had the same fate... :thinking:

There are still a couple to be claimed backed by empty spaces on the shelf so the way bottles were distributed and the notes written out was definitely not done by "exact" scientific method...
Was the money deducted? Did you get confirmation email ? if you have not used snapscan before , check if snapscan says demo payment ,otherwise email snapscan if the money was deducted
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Juggy on October 28, 2015, 10:16:26 AM
Was the money deducted? Did you get confirmation email ? if you have not used snapscan before , check if snapscan says demo payment ,otherwise email snapscan if the money was deducted

Money came off my account, I also saw them write my note out for bottle #93.

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Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: JonnyP on November 03, 2015, 03:14:37 PM
I'm afraid I'm not much of a whisky (or whiskey) fan, but as an Iain Banks fan, I can recommend his book about touring the distilleries of Scotland.  It's called 'Raw Spirit' and available online through Amazon (if you have a kindle) and possibly through iBooks but for some reason the search function never seems to work for me on that (either that or it takes forever).
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: kamikazi on November 03, 2015, 04:34:54 PM
Was the money deducted? Did you get confirmation email ? if you have not used snapscan before , check if snapscan says demo payment ,otherwise email snapscan if the money was deducted

Got a phone call last week to confirm I got a bottle. They also confirmed they had some sort of system glitch. Received the notification this week from Three Ships Whisky so all is good.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: raj on November 04, 2015, 01:01:59 PM
Managed to score some from NGFs...The Three ships single cask that is  :dop: :rubhands:
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Juggy on November 30, 2015, 01:45:32 PM
Also received my single cask 3 ships, it's going to my brother as a gift

Was given a bottle of 26 year old Glenfiddich the other day

Very, very nice.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: JJBGoode on March 11, 2016, 10:48:07 AM
First Whisky post of 2016 I see :) Don't know if anyone is interested seeing as it's not the most special single malt. The Pick n Pay in Somerset West main road across from Checkers is selling Glenfiddich 12 yo single malt for R308 a bottle (it usually sells in the R440 region).
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Atjan on March 15, 2016, 03:10:13 PM
/\ Grab a couple of bottles! You can barely get Johnny Black for that anymore.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Atjan on March 26, 2016, 09:21:32 PM
Walked into PnP liquor store today. Jamesons was R249 last week - now on special for R299. There's a few more examples.
R/$ exchange finally caught up with us or is this Easter madness?
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Hi-Phibian on March 26, 2016, 09:46:55 PM
Opinions on Monkey Shoulders?
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Rotten Johnny on March 26, 2016, 09:53:48 PM
Opinions on Monkey Shoulders?
Fabulous for the price, very smooth, easy drinking whiskey.  Love it.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Tirion on March 26, 2016, 10:33:37 PM
I agree excellent whiskey
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: JJBGoode on March 27, 2016, 07:28:53 PM
/\ Grab a couple of bottles! You can barely get Johnny Black for that anymore.

I managed to snag a bottle when the they still had stock. I went back 2 days later for something else and all the stock was gone. There were about 15 bottles left when I bought mine.

Walked into PnP liquor store today. Jamesons was R249 last week - now on special for R299. There's a few more examples.
R/$ exchange finally caught up with us or is this Easter madness?

I saw they had Jameson Select Reserve on special for R299. I bought a bottle to try and it's quite tasty. Are you sure the R250 Jameson wasn't the standard Jameson Irish Whiskey with cream coloured label? They usually cost R250 a bottle.

Opinions on Monkey Shoulders?

I agree with the others. I really like this one as well. Just a bummer that it went from R300 to R390. Damn weak rand  :sd:
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Atjan on March 29, 2016, 08:19:09 PM
I quite liked the Monkey Shoulder.
Not quite special enough for R400 a bottle though, IMO.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: BWS on March 30, 2016, 06:56:17 AM
I quite liked the Monkey Shoulder.
Not quite special enough for R400 a bottle though, IMO.

Better to be had for that price
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Rotten Johnny on March 30, 2016, 06:59:08 AM
Better to be had for that price
Not with ZumARse..., better will no longer be at that price.  Luckily I bought around 12 bottles in December when they were on special at just a smidgen over the BL price referenced above.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: BWS on March 30, 2016, 07:37:27 AM
Not with ZumARse..., better will no longer be at that price.  Luckily I bought around 12 bottles in December when they were on special at just a smidgen over the BL price referenced above.

Well, at an equivalent price then  :point:
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Rotten Johnny on March 30, 2016, 07:39:44 AM
Well, at an equivalent price then  :point:
then stop holding out...give us some options :)
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: BWS on March 30, 2016, 07:41:09 AM
then stop holding out...give us some options :)

No! because if everyone starts buying, the price will go up  :tongue: , there are some clues in this thread though
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Rotten Johnny on March 30, 2016, 08:04:49 AM
You're not going to convince anyone Paarl Perle is whiskey
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: BWS on March 30, 2016, 08:40:31 AM
You're not going to convince anyone Paarl Perle is whiskey

Drink enough of it and you'll believe its MaCallan 50yr old  :ROFLMAO:
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: kamikazi on March 31, 2016, 10:02:44 PM
Bought some Highland 12yo recently. Quite interesting, a bit of smokiness without the peatiness of Islay whiskies. Quite smooth, but not quite as refined as some malts in the same price class. Would I buy another bottle, doubtful.

Saw some questions about Monkey Shoulder earlier, wasn't a whisky I particularly enjoyed, but I can see how others would enjoy it. Had lots of caramel tones which I don't particularly like in a whisky.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: raj on April 04, 2016, 11:07:33 PM
two interesting drams at Makro:
Glenfiddich Original at R900 (UK price 90 quid) it's a re-enactment of their 1963 original malt..only 24000 bottles worldwide??
King Car Conductor at R980 (normally R1700 or 70 quid)
good prices  :dop:
Unsure about how good they are?? :goofy:
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: BWS on April 12, 2016, 08:13:36 AM
Some interesting specials here. I've checked out my cart already  :point:

http://www.drinkster.co.za/collections/specials

Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: BWS on April 12, 2016, 09:46:28 AM
then stop holding out...give us some options :)

Glen Grant single @R229.00 on Drinkster
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: royj on April 24, 2016, 12:47:40 PM
Recently met a rep that I worked with at SAB , he is now repping whiskey. He reckons the Vat 69 is the closest to Jameson. They both use the same base.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: dragonmts on April 24, 2016, 04:40:59 PM
I'm a Jameson man through & through. Water, a couple of icebergs and some good tunes on my cans, I'm in heaven!
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: royj on April 24, 2016, 06:18:14 PM
I told him that whatever he is smoking is scrambling his brains. After a few minutes of conversation I realised that he was serious.

Anyway over the long weekend , I am getting a bottle of Vat 69 and will do a dop by dop comparison.

Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Doge on April 24, 2016, 08:03:42 PM
They both use the same base.

That's absolute bullshit and I'm not even going to go into the political absurdities, but Jameson is a single distillery whiskey, all of it's from Cork, that'd make it illegal to sell VAT 69 as a scotch or the guy is claiming that Jameson are lying about their whiskey.

Unless of course I've completely misunderstood your interpretation of the word base?
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Doge on April 24, 2016, 08:14:56 PM
Currently enjoying this bottle after a recommendation from a friend, a real gem for any lovers of Talisker or Caol Ila

May be even similar to Oban, but with a richer fruit flavours and a sharper finish.

(https://www.weinquelle.com/onTEAM/viewer/images/s14751.jpg)
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Atjan on April 26, 2016, 08:52:37 AM
I told him that whatever he is smoking is scrambling his brains. After a few minutes of conversation I realised that he was serious.

Anyway over the long weekend , I am getting a bottle of Vat 69 and will do a dop by dop comparison.
I think he is repping VAT69 mainly.  ;)
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: royj on April 26, 2016, 08:57:52 AM
He does not work for Diageo.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: BWS on April 26, 2016, 09:01:55 AM
I think he is repping VAT69 mainly.  ;)

VAT69 is likely the best whisky in its price range and anywhere up to R160 a bottle
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: PeterP on May 10, 2016, 07:17:56 AM
Macro has Glenfiddich 12YO on offer
https://www.makro.co.za/liquor/glenfiddich-/br-12-yo-speyside-special-res-single-malt-whisky-liquid-copper-tin-/br-1-x-750ml--302005EAZ
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: XL1000 on May 10, 2016, 12:33:14 PM
Who is the biggest JW Blue Fan...?
Have a bottle I would like to offload. Not a fan.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: ScottulusMaximus on May 10, 2016, 12:45:33 PM
Takealot stocking whisky now btw
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: raj on May 16, 2016, 07:44:54 PM
New Jameson Caskmates available..gets finished in craft beer casks? Sounds interesting? Anyone tried it yet? Goes forR320 a pop..
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: willieopperman on May 17, 2016, 09:38:19 AM
Has anybody here used the Whizzky app? 
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: andredt on May 18, 2016, 10:36:35 AM
Takealot stocking whisky now btw

Expensive
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Scrat on May 19, 2016, 11:10:22 PM
Treated myself to a dram of this tonight

(http://scotchnoob.com/images/scotches/glenfiddich_18.jpg)

Been nursing the bottle for more than 2 years, it's nearing on empty. Looking at replacing it, nearly choked at the price, was a lot cheaper when I last looked...  :BWAHAHAH: Thing is, Glen Grant 10yo comes very close to the Glenfiddich 18 (just a tad less refined), and that's my goto nectar.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: dkronie on May 20, 2016, 09:57:55 AM
https://specials.checkers.co.za/deals/howorldwhiskydayspecials19may21may/files/assets/basic-html/page-1.html
(https://specials.checkers.co.za/deals/howorldwhiskydayspecials19may21may/files/assets/common/page-substrates/page0001.jpg)
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Shonver on May 20, 2016, 08:37:43 PM
OK... I took advantage of this special. Now, I'm not a serious "whiskies" drinker, but I've been trying them out... Black & White... J&B Rare... TBH, they were just a means to get a buzz on. But this time I went for Bain's. Maaaaaan! That's some flavour going on there. I once had a bottle of Irish Mist, which is a whiskey and honey blend - very nice! This Bains actually captures much of what I liked about the Irish Mist - without the honey!

No more bottom-rung whisk(e)y for me... I've progressed from 0-level!
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Atjan on May 21, 2016, 06:48:28 AM
Bain's has a taste very similar to bourbon for me. Tastes good with coke as well. ;D
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Rotten Johnny on May 21, 2016, 07:18:14 AM
Bain's has a taste very similar to bourbon for me.
It is, I find it too sweet and given a choice would rather drink Jack Daniels.  Most times these days I'm equally happy with a double Jack or Monkey Shoulder on the rocks.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Shonver on May 21, 2016, 08:29:52 AM
It is, I find it too sweet and given a choice would rather drink Jack Daniels.  Most times these days I'm equally happy with a double Jack or Monkey Shoulder on the rocks.

Yes, it is sweet! Surprisingly so. It has other flavours going on as well. I always thought that the taste cues for whiskey would be more nuanced than for red wine, but this time it was not subtle. I'm comparing it with Black & White, J&B Rare and Johnny Walker Black.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: JJBGoode on May 21, 2016, 11:59:31 AM
Yes, it is sweet! Surprisingly so. It has other flavours going on as well. I always thought that the taste cues for whiskey would be more nuanced than for red wine, but this time it was not subtle. I'm comparing it with Black & White, J&B Rare and Johnny Walker Black.

Shonver, Bain's is a great whisky to start off with (I always have a bottle on hand), especially if you like the lighter and sweeter ones. All grain whiskies tend to be like that. I warn you though, the whisky slope is a slippery one. I also think that you will enjoy Monkey Shoulder especially if you like 'em light and sweet.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Shonver on May 21, 2016, 01:47:49 PM
Thanks for the tip. TBH, I don't quite know enough to know what I like, or what's to like (except for the Bains so far).
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: kamikazi on May 22, 2016, 04:45:29 PM
Bain's also tastes too much like Bourbon for me, I gave my bottle away like I did with the Monkey Shoulder.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Atjan on May 22, 2016, 10:54:00 PM
I'll definitely imbibe Monkey Shoulder again, I can't say that it reminded me much of bourbon. Not that I have anything against bourbon - I like keeping a bottle of Jim Beam on hand.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Larry on May 23, 2016, 12:10:39 AM
If you do like a whiskey with sweeter notes, but prefer to keep things a little Scotish, and a little less Deep Southish, try this one.

Sadly the Rand isn't helping this one....

https://www.makro.co.za/liquor/glenmorangie-/br-nectar-dor-highland-single-malt-scotch-whisky-in-gift-box-/br-1-x-750ml--137229EA

I will not neglect to admit that Bains is very good value...
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: optimus on July 05, 2016, 09:19:38 AM
Checkers private barrel number 41 is well worth a try if you can get it .
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: kamikazi on July 18, 2016, 07:13:54 PM
Got a bottle of Grant's Special Reserve last week and have to say I like it more than JW Black. Think it might be my new favourite that is still reasonably affordable.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: raj on August 01, 2016, 10:01:58 PM
The Three Ships 10 year old single malt released today..I think 6000 bottles in total..had the Three Ships PX cask and it was spectacular..I am quite sure this will be pretty similar..R525 a bottle.. 
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Atjan on August 01, 2016, 10:14:12 PM
I picked up a bottle of Jameson's Caskmates last week. I've got mean cold/sinusitis going, but I must say it really is a very nice whisky. Only had two glasses so far, but am looking forward to the rest of the bottle.  :rubhands:
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: TimbaLand on August 01, 2016, 10:19:02 PM
I picked up a bottle of Jameson's Caskmates last week. I've got mean cold/sinusitis going, but I must say it really is a very nice whisky. Only had two glasses so far, but am looking forward to the rest of the bottle.  :rubhands:

Maybe it's the sinusitis that makes it to taste nice  :flame:. Wait until the sinusitis is give and reevaluate
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Atjan on August 01, 2016, 11:25:31 PM
Wait until the sinusitis is give and reevaluate
It is a fate to terrible to contemplate!
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: andredt on September 16, 2016, 03:35:00 PM
Bought some King James 12Y/O quite enjoying it. :)
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: tptb on September 26, 2016, 11:17:07 AM
The Three Ships 10 year old single malt released today..I think 6000 bottles in total..had the Three Ships PX cask and it was spectacular..I am quite sure this will be pretty similar..R525 a bottle..

Quite different to the PX expression and to my taste much better for it.  At R500 its a sensible option for a daily drinking whisky.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: BWS on September 26, 2016, 11:18:57 AM
The Three Ships 10 year old single malt released today..I think 6000 bottles in total..had the Three Ships PX cask and it was spectacular..I am quite sure this will be pretty similar..R525 a bottle..

At that price, I'd rather add a few rand and get a Macallan
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: tptb on September 26, 2016, 11:26:16 AM
At that price, I'd rather add a few rand and get a Macallan

At that price bracket my money would go to the Compass Box Great King Street Glasgow Blend, but it is all down to taste. My daily is Laphroaig Quarter Cask so the 3Ships 10YO  is more to my palate than a Macallan.

Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: raj on September 28, 2016, 12:45:12 PM
the three ships is definitely worth the a shot..lovely dram :thumbs:
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: GoodEnoughGear on September 30, 2016, 02:05:36 PM
I'm a big peat-head and I like them strong and medicinal like sipping tcp out of an old tyre, so take that as context first :).

I'm through most of a bottle of Laphroaig Select and I've been a little disappointed to be honest. It improves with a couple of drops of water, but doesn't have the full-belt Laphroaig disinfect your bonfire boots thing going for it. In general I don't like finishes on peaty whiskies (Bourbon, Oloroso, Pedro Ximenez etc.) so this may just be a symptom of that, but I can't help feeling like they took some less than stellar barrels they had been experimenting with, smooshed them together and voila! Laphroaig Select was born.

I'd stick with the 10, or QC if you like a little more vanilla. If only we could get the 10yo Cask Strength here, THAT is a belter of note.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: tptb on September 30, 2016, 03:11:25 PM
If only we could get the 10yo Cask Strength here, THAT is a belter of note.

Whiskyexchange does ship to SA.  So $173.75 excluding customs costs.   :sweat:

Agreed on Select being pretty average.  To me the whole appeal of Laphroaig is the distinctive taste, toning it down is counter intuitive. 
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: dkronie on October 05, 2016, 10:21:32 AM

Three Ships 15 Year Old - Pinotage Cask Finish being released 12:00 - Today (2016/10/05)
http://themasterscollection.co.za
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: bonzocabeza on October 05, 2016, 12:01:34 PM
Hi Forum drinkers...
 I am desperate looking for a bottle of Caribean spicy Rum... name "The Kraken"... the web is showing out of stock everywhere.
Have any of you has encounter with one available at your local winkel?
 cheers cesar
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: raj on October 05, 2016, 12:19:23 PM
Mate went to the launch..said its the best three ships yet..
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: raj on October 23, 2016, 08:35:42 PM
Got my Three Ships Pinotage cask yesterday..it's an absolute stunner..
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Doge on October 23, 2016, 10:00:36 PM
Cheaper than the standard stuff and I actually like it even more…

(https://img.thewhiskyexchange.com/900/talob.non12.jpg)
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Vernen on October 24, 2016, 12:28:09 PM
I've also got a couple of bottles of 3 Ships 15yr Pinotage Cask. Lovely Whisky.

If anybody is interested, I have managed to source a few bottles of Wild Turkey Rare Breed (Older bottling with the maroon tube). I'm willing to trade one of those for any duplicates you may have of similar value whisky.

Regards,
Vernen
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Larry on October 24, 2016, 01:38:31 PM
I've also got a couple of bottles of 3 Ships 15yr Pinotage Cask. Lovely Whisky.


Does this pickup any of the traditionally sweeter notes of the Pinotage varietal from the barrels...?
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: andredt on November 10, 2016, 07:38:38 AM
Cheaper than the standard stuff and I actually like it even more…

(https://img.thewhiskyexchange.com/900/talob.non12.jpg)
1500 is your cheap whiskey? Sjoe.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Doge on November 10, 2016, 02:47:08 PM
1500 is your cheap whiskey? Sjoe.

I'm going on cost, not the extra ~R850 whoever is asking from you.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: andredt on November 16, 2016, 09:59:48 AM
http://www.wine.co.za/news/news.aspx?NEWSID=28644

Got the 8 year old Scottish Cousin brought in my van Loveren's

Very nice after dinner whiskey pecan nut chocolate fudge type of taste to me not a everyday whiskey a bit to sweet for me. But like i said lovely for after dinner. 
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: GoodEnoughGear on November 16, 2016, 10:28:52 AM
I tasted the 12yo Scottish Cousin in-store. I must admit I find the name a bit lame, but the whisky seemed pretty decent for the price.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: dragonmts on November 16, 2016, 10:52:22 AM
Absolutely love Crown Royal but nobody stocks it anymore. It used to be stocked at Makro but they've stopped importing it.

(http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm146/dragonmts/10013_L_zpsh8pessvc.jpg) (http://s295.photobucket.com/user/dragonmts/media/10013_L_zpsh8pessvc.jpg.html)

Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: raj on November 16, 2016, 08:29:10 PM
Available here, at a somewhat crazy price though
http://www.bottleshop.co.za/crown-royal-whisky/
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: kamikazi on November 25, 2016, 05:33:44 PM
Any nice whisky specials around?
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Yossarian on November 30, 2016, 08:07:17 AM
daily deal on glenmorangie 10yr bourbon. not my favorite but R400 is good deal
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: vleisman on December 25, 2016, 02:57:29 PM
Having an 18 year old for Christmas
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161225/0786596f4cdae8d228f5a7f86bc200ce.jpg)

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Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: dragonmts on December 25, 2016, 03:34:50 PM
^^ That's a teaser size!!
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: kamikazi on December 26, 2016, 04:16:04 PM
Received a Cardhu 12 yo malt whisky for X-mas!
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Atjan on January 25, 2017, 03:27:46 AM
Whiskey drinker's wetdream

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170125/cfb271abc6daa4df1f57204d9b6c8951.jpg)
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Rotten Johnny on January 25, 2017, 06:46:47 AM
^^^ did you purposely keep the prices blurry? :P
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Toxxyc on January 25, 2017, 07:26:20 AM
Nice thread, I'll keep an eye on it.  The nicest bottle I have at home (or the money to buy) is a Glenlivet 12YO.  I used to drink a lot of Glenfiddich 12YO, but the Glenlivet is just that tad better for me.

A great budget single malt though is GlenGrant Major's Reserve.

PS:  I'm a n00b at this whisky thing, but I know that I prefer my whisky's Scotch and single malt.  Japanese can be great as well, but I'm no fan of Irish.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Vernen on January 25, 2017, 07:33:23 AM
Nice thread, I'll keep an eye on it.  The nicest bottle I have at home (or the money to buy) is a Glenlivet 12YO.  I used to drink a lot of Glenfiddich 12YO, but the Glenlivet is just that tad better for me.

A great budget single malt though is GlenGrant Major's Reserve.

PS:  I'm a n00b at this whisky thing, but I know that I prefer my whisky's Scotch and single malt.  Japanese can be great as well, but I'm no fan of Irish.
If you can find a bottle of Elijah Craig 12yr at Liquor city you must get one. It's an awesome bourbon. It's an absolute steal at R370. Problem is the 12yr is discontinued in the US so all that's left is the stocks on the shelves.

#YNWA

Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Rotten Johnny on January 25, 2017, 07:35:27 AM
Anyone tried:

(https://cdn2.masterofmalt.com/whiskies/p-2813/balvenie/balvenie-doublewood-12-year-old-whisky.jpg?ss=2.0)
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Vernen on January 25, 2017, 07:51:02 AM
Anyone tried:

(https://cdn2.masterofmalt.com/whiskies/p-2813/balvenie/balvenie-doublewood-12-year-old-whisky.jpg?ss=2.0)
Yes. It's a good dram. Smooth. Light and easy drinking. Not too complex. It's rather pricey for what you get though. Plenty of other decent whiskies at the R850 price point. Notably: Glenfiddich 15, Glenlivet 15, Springbank 10, AncNoc 16, Redbreast 12, Big Peat and many more.

#YNWA

Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Toxxyc on January 25, 2017, 09:16:33 AM
If you can find a bottle of Elijah Craig 12yr at Liquor city you must get one. It's an awesome bourbon. It's an absolute steal at R370. Problem is the 12yr is discontinued in the US so all that's left is the stocks on the shelves.

#YNWA

I'll keep an eye out, thanks.  Not the biggest fan of bourbons either, but I guess it'll go nice with some Coke Zero?  :P
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Vernen on January 25, 2017, 09:47:36 AM
I'll keep an eye out, thanks.  Not the biggest fan of bourbons either, but I guess it'll go nice with some Coke Zero? 
Nope it's a easy neat sipper. Doesn't need a mixer

#YNWA

Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Toxxyc on January 25, 2017, 10:43:40 AM
Glad to hear.  I'm more leaning towards neat drinkers or whisky over some stones, so if you say it'll fit (and it's cheap), SCORE!
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: optimus on January 25, 2017, 12:48:01 PM
Anyone tried:

(https://cdn2.masterofmalt.com/whiskies/p-2813/balvenie/balvenie-doublewood-12-year-old-whisky.jpg?ss=2.0)

What vernen said . Very nice but not R899 nice . Then again , it is the premium offering from the Grant family and they cant have it going head to head with the glenfiddich 12 .

Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: GoodEnoughGear on January 25, 2017, 02:35:16 PM
I find Balvenie a bit monotonous. If you're looking for something in a similar vein, but with real character the current Bunnahabhain 12 is excellent!
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Vernen on January 25, 2017, 05:09:56 PM
I find Balvenie a bit monotonous. If you're looking for something in a similar vein, but with real character the current Bunnahabhain 12 is excellent!
Bunnahabhain 12 is quite delicious.

#YNWA

Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Atjan on January 28, 2017, 12:01:08 AM
^^^ did you purposely keep the prices blurry?
Hehehe, if you come from rhe land of cheap booze, you need blurry vision at first.
Jamesons on special will set you back about R400, as will Johnny Red. The expensive stuff is relatively speaking not that much more expensive though.

 There is a bottle of JW in that cupboard that costs eq R 14 000.

Having said that though, where you're headed isn't exactly cheap either...better get a JD distribution licence once you land. ;D
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Atjan on January 28, 2017, 12:07:18 AM


...but I guess it'll go nice with some Coke Zero? 
I can't stand the taste of artificial sweetners in a brandy/bourbon cola mix.

Besides, everyone knows diet cooldrinks make you fat. You barely ever see a skinny person drinking it. :nfi:
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Doge on January 29, 2017, 02:01:26 AM
Hehehe, if you come from rhe land of cheap booze, you need blurry vision at first.
Jamesons on special will set you back about R400, as will Johnny Red. The expensive stuff is relatively speaking not that much more expensive though.

It's a funny thing; I'm generally looking at about the same eye-watering prices for the cheap stuff… but up the range a bottle of Lagavulin 16 will only set you back about 820 zars.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Atjan on January 29, 2017, 11:49:28 AM
It sort of 'forces' you to buy better stuff.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Larry on January 29, 2017, 02:46:21 PM
Currently I'm rather a fan of this, Glenfiddich 15 Year Old Distillery Edition.

I was a little nervous of the 51% alc.vol, and while it is obvious enough, it makes for a great Single Malt Scotch Whiskey.

It might not be for everyone, but it's working for me right now...(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170129/ba28d6fb06a70b73315ac7837ab9fecd.jpg)
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: andredt on February 01, 2017, 09:12:48 AM
I found a liking to black and white as my every day whiskey.

Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Toxxyc on February 01, 2017, 09:22:38 AM
Someone brought over some Three Ships over the weekend, the 5YO one.  Tastes like smoke.  Not my favourite by a long shot.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: raj on February 01, 2017, 02:21:11 PM
Scored an old Black Bottle in the New Year..WOW so much better than the new blend! Needless to say it was a bottle kill all too soon! :flame:
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: raj on February 09, 2017, 04:28:20 PM
Thanks for the heads up on the Elijah Craig 12 y.o...Managed to score a bottle!
Fantastic dram.pity its not available anymore?
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Vernen on February 09, 2017, 04:35:49 PM
Good stuff. It will come back but not as a 12yr. It will be Elijah Craig small batch. If you keen on some more, the Liquor City on Northcliff Corner has some left

#YNWA

Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: raj on March 01, 2017, 08:54:39 AM
Makro Wonderboom has a Yoichi at R400, decent dram at half the usual price :dop:
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: BWS on March 18, 2017, 03:26:37 PM
Just bought a bottle of this, R699.00 but delicious. I really enjoy port or sherry cask finished whisky

(https://cdn1.masterofmalt.com/whiskies/p-2813/glenmorangie/glenmorangie-the-quinta-ruban-12-year-old-whisky.jpg?ss=2.0)
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Vernen on March 18, 2017, 03:27:39 PM
Yes that is quite delicious.

#YNWA

Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: GECO on March 18, 2017, 10:41:55 PM
Just bought a bottle of this, R699.00 but delicious. I really enjoy port or sherry cask finished whisky

(https://cdn1.masterofmalt.com/whiskies/p-2813/glenmorangie/glenmorangie-the-quinta-ruban-12-year-old-whisky.jpg?ss=2.0)
That is an excellent Whisky. Bought two bottles in zambia for anout R400 ea.
The quinta ruban is a port cask
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Vernen on March 18, 2017, 10:55:01 PM
Great Price. Currently sippin on Springbank 12 year Cask Strength. Such a great sipper.

#YNWA

Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: optimus on March 22, 2017, 08:08:01 AM
That Glenmorangie quinta ruban is indeed delicious . I do prefer it during the winter months though .
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: BWS on March 22, 2017, 08:17:33 AM
. I do prefer it during the winter months though .

I don't like to limit myself :ROFLMAO:
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Juggy on March 27, 2017, 02:06:09 PM
I picked up a bottle of 12 year old Glenlivet this weekend.

Lovely stuff
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Scrat on March 27, 2017, 08:46:06 PM
Funny, the 12 year Glenlivet failed to impress me; I keep it for guests. I have a strange palate, as I seem to be the only one who doesn't enjoy it.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Vernen on March 27, 2017, 09:06:57 PM
The Glenlivet 15 is a great drinker

#YNWA

Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Nirvana on March 28, 2017, 10:15:31 PM
As is the Glenfiddich 15yr old Solera Reserve for me,really delish!

(https://www.makro.co.za/Images/Products/Large/MIN_2415647_EAA.jpg?v=20160517)
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Wolvebain on March 29, 2017, 02:16:40 AM
As is the Glenfiddich 15yr old Solera Reserve for me,really delish!

I'm going to try this out...
But my current 'to-do' list needs to be done first :)
(https://s14.postimg.org/bez8dn8w1/IMG-20170329-_WA0000.jpg)
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: andredt on March 29, 2017, 07:49:17 AM
I picked up a bottle of 12 year old Glenlivet this weekend.

Lovely stuff

Very nice make sure to use spring water and purified ice.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: TimbaLand on March 29, 2017, 10:32:20 PM
Very nice make sure to use spring water and purified ice.

Goeie Whiskey soek now ys of spring water nie  :dop:
It's been a while. Are u good Andre?
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: TimbaLand on March 29, 2017, 10:44:41 PM
As is the Glenfiddich 15yr old Solera Reserve for me,really delish!

(https://www.makro.co.za/Images/Products/Large/MIN_2415647_EAA.jpg?v=20160517)

Good whiskey but I have overindulge on Glenfiddich that I can't stand it anymore
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: andredt on March 30, 2017, 07:25:59 AM
Goeie Whiskey soek now ys of spring water nie  :dop:
It's been a while. Are u good Andre?
Im lekker and you bud. Hows the beemer going ? no more problems?

I cant afford really good whiskey 12 Y/O is at the peak of my reach and that gets water and ice.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Toxxyc on March 30, 2017, 07:47:52 AM
Heh.  I'm the same.  Can't afford the better ones, but for me the better cheapies are Glenlivet 12YO and for one with water and ice is the Glengrant Major's Reserve.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: GoodEnoughGear on March 30, 2017, 01:15:20 PM
Has anyone tried the Kilchoman Machir Bay or the other releases? I remember tasting an early variant a Whisky Live a couple of years ago that had promise, but I haven't sprung for a bottle yet.

http://kilchomandistillery.com/our-single-malt-whisky
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Vernen on March 30, 2017, 07:14:14 PM
Machir Bay is good but Sanaig is way better. Get a bottle of Sanaig. It's such an easy drinker though. Won't last long

#YNWA

Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: GoodEnoughGear on March 31, 2017, 09:52:35 AM
Thanks, I'll pick one up :). Hell, Easter hols, maybe I'll get one of each.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: TimbaLand on April 01, 2017, 08:03:13 AM
Im lekker and you bud. Hows the beemer going ? no more problems?

I cant afford really good whiskey 12 Y/O is at the peak of my reach and that gets water and ice.

It looks like it's finally sorted. They had it for s while but I was driving around on a loan 320d for 3 weeks. It saved me lots of fuel money
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Rotten Johnny on April 09, 2017, 08:59:12 PM
Hardly whiskey, but anyone here a fan of Cognac... Have a bottle of Remy Martin VSOP I'd gladly swap for a bottle of Woodford Reserve Double Oaked with a topup from me.  Make quick or I open it tonight.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Atjan on April 10, 2017, 01:34:42 AM
If you don't like it, Coke will fix it. 😀

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Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Doge on April 10, 2017, 03:01:09 AM
If you don't like it, Coke will fix it. 😀

(http://cdn.trendhunterstatic.com/thumbs/great-day-the-lonely-island.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Rotten Johnny on April 10, 2017, 03:35:50 AM
Resorted to gin on ice instead, Remy still sealed.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: BWS on April 20, 2017, 06:59:51 AM
 :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: farking yanks!

http://thechive.com/2017/04/19/these-are-the-best-tasting-whiskeys-in-the-world-11-photos/

Woodford at #1 and Macallan #4 ?  :BWAHAHAH: :BWAHAHAH: :BWAHAHAH: Morons. Just the fact that Johnny walker appears on this list at all make it INVALID

I should put this in Joke for the day
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: GoodEnoughGear on April 20, 2017, 08:40:34 AM
:ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: farking yanks!

http://thechive.com/2017/04/19/these-are-the-best-tasting-whiskeys-in-the-world-11-photos/

Woodford at #1 and Macallan #4 ?  :BWAHAHAH: :BWAHAHAH: :BWAHAHAH: Morons. Just the fact that Johnny walker appears on this list at all make it INVALID

I should put this in Joke for the day

The Chive down in the bottom of the content barrel. Some intern who drinks Smirnoff Spin got the assignment.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Juggy on April 20, 2017, 10:31:03 AM
I see Johnny Walker Green is available again

https://www.makro.co.za/liquor/johnnie-walker-/br-green-label-15-yo-scotch-whisky-/br-1-x-750ml--1015482EAZ
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: andredt on April 20, 2017, 02:19:30 PM
I see Johnny Walker Green is available again

https://www.makro.co.za/liquor/johnnie-walker-/br-green-label-15-yo-scotch-whisky-/br-1-x-750ml--1015482EAZ

You must come out of your cave more often  :ROFLMAO:
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Juggy on April 20, 2017, 02:24:21 PM
You must come out of your cave more often  :ROFLMAO:

Hahaha, it's only been back for a few short weeks...
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: BWS on April 27, 2017, 03:23:24 PM
Just added this to my Glenmorangie shelf, it will be a regular - It's yummy

(http://b-21.com/labels/live/LSCOGLEMFE.jpg)
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: TimbaLand on May 14, 2017, 08:59:26 AM
Just added this to my Glenmorangie shelf, it will be a regular - It's yummy

(http://b-21.com/labels/live/LSCOGLEMFE.jpg)

It enjoy it too. Sad the price has gone up astronomically on the past year
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: TimbaLand on May 14, 2017, 09:02:54 AM
If you don't like it, Coke will fix it. 😀

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20 years later I get a gag reflex from the thought of coke in alcohol
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: BWS on May 14, 2017, 09:03:54 AM
It enjoy it too. Sad the price has gone up astronomically on the past year

Indeed, the Quinta Ruban has gone up R60 a bottle in just 3 months :whip:
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: TimbaLand on May 14, 2017, 09:10:48 AM
Indeed, the Quinta Ruban has gone up R60 a bottle in just 3 months :whip:
The 18 years has gone up by 50% in about 2 years. The Signet has doubled in price. I find myself drinking The Original more these days
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: BWS on May 14, 2017, 09:50:58 AM
^^ Myself :vsad:
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: optimus on May 16, 2017, 03:41:47 PM
Looks like Glenmorangie is taking lesson from Balvenie in how to apply price increases .

That Quinta Ruban is still a firm favourite of mine though .
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: raj on May 19, 2017, 12:18:42 PM
World Whisky Day 20/05/2017..Checkers has some pretty decent deals with 20% off all single malts! Pour a dram on Saturday and celebrate the water of life gents!!
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: JJBGoode on June 01, 2017, 01:28:30 PM
World Whisky Day 20/05/2017..Checkers has some pretty decent deals with 20% off all single malts! Pour a dram on Saturday and celebrate the water of life gents!!

Much appreciated raj. I stocked up BIG time with this special  :rubhands:


There is a special on at Makro for Talisker 10 (with 2 glasses) for R499. Not a fan myself but very good price indeed.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: TimbaLand on June 05, 2017, 07:28:12 PM
Yesterday was my 40th birthday. A friend brought 2 whiskeys with. Glenmorangie 18 years for me and him to drink during the celebrations and also a Glenmorangie Signet as a birthday present 👅💦
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: BWS on June 05, 2017, 07:30:45 PM
Yesterday was my 40th birthday. A friend brought 2 whiskeys with. Glenmorangie 18 years for me and him to drink during the celebrations and also a Glenmorangie Signet as a birthday present 👅💦

Many many happy returns of the day, you  LUCKY BUGGER !!!!!!, that Signet is liquid perfection :drool: :dop: :mates:
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Family_Dog on June 05, 2017, 08:52:43 PM
And may you have another 60 years ahead of you!   :tongue:


-F_D
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Vernen on June 05, 2017, 08:55:07 PM
Both great drams. Enjoy

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Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: vleisman on June 05, 2017, 09:27:26 PM
Happy birthday Timba, never tasted that...enjoy
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: TimbaLand on June 06, 2017, 12:04:19 AM
Thank you guys for the well wishes 
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Toxxyc on June 06, 2017, 07:17:42 AM
You have a nice friend, congratulations!  :D
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: vleisman on June 07, 2017, 05:45:31 PM
My very first bottle of Glenmorangie(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170607/c88373d2d103307b0c2250f8edb94feb.jpg)

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Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: BWS on June 07, 2017, 06:04:04 PM
^^ It won't be your last
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Shonver on July 25, 2017, 08:29:58 PM
I just discovered this video. At least, now, I'm a bit less mystified.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-rjtG_CHzU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-rjtG_CHzU)
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: raj on July 25, 2017, 08:56:21 PM
nicely done  :thumbs: Slainte!!
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Atjan on July 28, 2017, 04:41:05 AM
Cool video, that will be my brain food for the day. Made me yearn for my bottle of Jameson's  ;D
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Doge on July 28, 2017, 02:01:16 PM
Picked up on special:

(https://img.thewhiskyexchange.com/540/ablob.12yo.jpg)
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: BWS on July 28, 2017, 03:35:55 PM
^^ delicious stuff that :drool:
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: leonma on July 30, 2017, 06:44:31 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170730/a1a060d49ef4f2ddbb7289b8faec5509.jpg)

I'm partial to Islay...


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Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Scrat on July 30, 2017, 09:28:06 PM
My very first bottle of Glenmorangie(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170607/c88373d2d103307b0c2250f8edb94feb.jpg)

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Yeeeeeep, been loving this one for some time. A definite favourite.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: BWS on July 31, 2017, 06:37:34 AM
Yeeeeeep, been loving this one for some time. A definite favourite.

Try the Quinta Ruban, it's a bit pricier but WELL worth it.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: raj on August 20, 2017, 11:54:49 AM
Gentlemen, two decent drams on one day only..
Glenmorangie Duthac 1 litre www.onedayonly.co.za/the-duthac-single-malt-1l-whiskey.html
Bunnahabhain Eirigh Na Greine https://www.onedayonly.co.za/eirigh-na-greine-1l-single-malt-whiskey.html
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Vernen on September 01, 2017, 11:07:04 PM
Cheers Gentlemen. I'm enjoying this beautiful whisky whilst listening to some cheese on this Spring Day. Slàinte(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170901/a66b68ff68d5b012b690349b6e00a06f.jpg)

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Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Nirvana on September 02, 2017, 11:07:56 AM
Slainte Va!

Listening to Blue Cheese that time of the evening..?  :dop:
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: raj on September 02, 2017, 11:18:54 AM
That's  stunning dram..love it's complexity and particularly lovely with a cigar!!
Enjoy!!
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: GoodEnoughGear on September 02, 2017, 11:22:49 AM
Anyone tried the Corryvreckan?
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Hi-Phibian on September 02, 2017, 11:30:12 AM
The Singleton 12 yr R399 spar tops less another R30 with rewards. 







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Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: vleisman on September 28, 2017, 07:24:55 PM
Present from my son. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170928/de91194c032ee0644d65c63493096b29.jpg)

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Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Vernen on September 28, 2017, 07:35:04 PM
Present from my son. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170928/de91194c032ee0644d65c63493096b29.jpg)

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Nice. What's your thoughts on it?

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Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Den123 on September 28, 2017, 07:46:43 PM
Ok. I may sound like a pleb, but I really like Jack Daniels Tennessee Fire.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Nirvana on September 28, 2017, 07:48:15 PM
That Dalwhinnie is a Highland benchmark,imo...  :2thumbs:
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: vleisman on September 28, 2017, 07:53:45 PM
Nice. What's your thoughts on it?

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I'll have to get back to you on that. So far so good, just getting over the flu so my battered taste buds are even worse than usual
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: vleisman on September 28, 2017, 09:43:49 PM
Here goes:
Neat - quite powerful without being harsh.  Molasses and smokey.  Reminds me of Buffalo Trace but without the sweet tones.  I could live with it (I love Buffalo Trace).
With a bit of water it's a bit less... everything.  Nothing to shout about. On the box they recommend keeping it in the freezer and letting it warm in the mouth.  I'll have to try that sometime.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Vernen on September 28, 2017, 10:13:22 PM
Here goes:
Neat - quite powerful without being harsh.  Molasses and smokey.  Reminds me of Buffalo Trace but without the sweet tones.  I could live with it (I love Buffalo Trace).
With a bit of water it's a bit less... everything.  Nothing to shout about. On the box they recommend keeping it in the freezer and letting it warm in the mouth.  I'll have to try that sometime.
Sounds pretty much like Dalwhinnie. I've got the Dalwhinnie 15. Been struggling with it for a while. It's pretty decent but doesn't seem to have an identity. It's no peat or sherry bomb. It doesn't have a unique character like a Springbank or a Bruichladdich. It's just a pretty average sipper. Having said that it makes for a great starter dram at the beginning of a session.

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Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Nirvana on September 29, 2017, 12:04:00 AM
^ Yes,the ones u mentioned are certainly bolder and richer than the Dalwhinnie,which is lighter,with floral notes, a 'citrusy' fruitiness and just the feintest hint of peat It's more delicate than say a typical Islay,which can also make it more complex.
A Classic Single Malt,I would say it's actually more suited to drinking in spring time rather than winter,as indicated on the bottle.
Personally,I prefer to enjoy each for the characteristics if the region,and would thus prefer drinking different drams at different times of day or year.
But of course,as in audio,whatever makes you smile!  :dop:
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Hi-Phibian on September 29, 2017, 07:05:23 AM
The Singleton has become my affordable favourite.  With Tops special and spar card discount R370 is a smart deal to me.

The Japsnees ones are for now and then. 







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Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Schmuck on September 29, 2017, 07:08:32 AM
Ballantine's 12YO is also right up there for me.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Vernen on September 29, 2017, 07:56:08 AM
^ Yes,the ones u mentioned are certainly bolder and richer than the Dalwhinnie,which is lighter,with floral notes, a 'citrusy' fruitiness and just the feintest hint of peat It's more delicate than say a typical Islay,which can also make it more complex.
A Classic Single Malt,I would say it's actually more suited to drinking in spring time rather than winter,as indicated on the bottle.
Personally,I prefer to enjoy each for the characteristics if the region,and would thus prefer drinking different drams at different times of day or year.
But of course,as in audio,whatever makes you smile!  :dop:
You are % correct and it's one of the reasons I keep on average 25 open bottles of Whisky. It really depends what you feel like drinking on the day.

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Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Nirvana on September 29, 2017, 10:33:29 AM
^ Golly,your address again Vernen..?   :point:

Hehe,enjoy,mate!  :dop:

Also agree with Croakie re the Singleton - very satisfying and very good value @ < R400!  :thumbs:
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: raj on October 03, 2017, 04:04:43 PM
Johnnie Walker Black Director's Cut Bladerunner 2049..Almost a cask strength of Black label, really not my dram, but keen to give it a shot..anyone know where to acquire a bottle..sooo looking forward to the movie this Friday!!
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: GoodEnoughGear on October 03, 2017, 05:16:33 PM
Johnnie Walker Black Director's Cut Bladerunner 2049..Almost a cask strength of Black label, really not my dram, but keen to give it a shot..anyone know where to acquire a bottle..sooo looking forward to the movie this Friday!!
A cask strength Black Label, eh? The only red flag is using Bladerunner to sell it...sounds like a gimmick. If it really is what it should be, I'm pulling out my wallet.

Post if you find a source!
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Doge on October 03, 2017, 05:51:48 PM
I'm pulling out my wallet.

Better reach deep, there's no way they'll ship something this limited into SA through normal channels and it looks like it's going for £99.

Pretty outrageous in general even when you live with this currency: http://www.htfw.com/glassware-decanters/blade-runner-range (http://www.htfw.com/glassware-decanters/blade-runner-range)
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Vernen on October 03, 2017, 06:05:31 PM
Johnnie Walker Black Director's Cut Bladerunner 2049..Almost a cask strength of Black label, really not my dram, but keen to give it a shot..anyone know where to acquire a bottle..sooo looking forward to the movie this Friday!!
Ask Whiskybrother in Hyde Park Mall. They are one of the best whisky shops in SA and regularly bring in limited edition whiskies

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Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: raj on October 03, 2017, 08:18:41 PM
Thanks gentlemen...will look into and let you guys know if investigation bears any drams!! :thumbs:
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: fuz940510 on October 04, 2017, 08:24:41 AM
Ask Whiskybrother in Hyde Park Mall. They are one of the best whisky shops in SA and regularly bring in limited edition whiskies

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They also organise many tastings - went to one a couple of months ago with just on 200 different bottles, and at least 4 different source countries. My favourite was definitely the Nikka Coffey, for the sweeter side, and the Ardbeg Uigeadail for the peaty side of the mix
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Toxxyc on October 06, 2017, 12:56:46 PM
Bargain!

https://www.onedayonly.co.za/dalwhinnie-15-year-old-single-malt-whisky-lunchtime.html?utm_source=Active+subs+list+-+Lunctime+Deal+and+other+promotions&utm_campaign=3f6450216c-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2017_10_06&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_cc368bf507-3f6450216c-403721077
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Larry on October 07, 2017, 08:40:22 AM
Bargain!

https://www.onedayonly.co.za/dalwhinnie-15-year-old-single-malt-whisky-lunchtime.html?utm_source=Active+subs+list+-+Lunctime+Deal+and+other+promotions&utm_campaign=3f6450216c-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2017_10_06&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_cc368bf507-3f6450216c-403721077


$&@# - just seen this  :fuse:
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Atjan on October 09, 2017, 02:43:46 AM
I got a bottle of Glenlivet as a prezzie last month. I'm really enjoying it - a  bit more complex without being a peat beast.

So then I stupidly thought I'd try a cheaper one for back-up and got a bottle of Canadian Club. It's absolute rubbish.  :puke: Any ideas for cocktails?
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Toxxyc on October 09, 2017, 06:46:02 AM
I got a bottle of Glenlivet as a prezzie last month. I'm really enjoying it - a  bit more complex without being a peat beast.

So then I stupidly thought I'd try a cheaper one for back-up and got a bottle of Canadian Club. It's absolute rubbish.  :puke: Any ideas for cocktails?

Singles with Coke Zero is always lekker.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Vernen on October 09, 2017, 06:50:26 AM
I got a bottle of Glenlivet as a prezzie last month. I'm really enjoying it - a  bit more complex without being a peat beast.

So then I stupidly thought I'd try a cheaper one for back-up and got a bottle of Canadian Club. It's absolute rubbish.  :puke: Any ideas for cocktails?
Google The Whisky Sour and The Old Fashioned. Or you could start blending it. That's what I do with Whiskies I don't like. If it's particularly bad then a couple of teaspoons of heavily peated whisky like Ardbeg or Laphroaig will make it more palatable.

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Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: raj on October 30, 2017, 08:36:56 AM
The Makro Christmas catalogue is out..some decent deals there.. :dop:
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Toxxyc on October 30, 2017, 08:39:23 AM
Vat 69 for R100?  Yes please.  Makes for a lekker mixer when people come over.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: raj on October 31, 2017, 07:58:50 AM
Bunnahabhain Eirigh Na Greine, a duty free edition at R899 for 1 litre on onedayonly..
https://www.onedayonly.co.za/eirigh-na-greine-1l-islay-single-malt-scotch-whiskey.html
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Doge on November 04, 2017, 03:12:34 PM
(https://img.thewhiskyexchange.com/540/lrgob.non8.jpg)
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Atjan on November 10, 2017, 01:42:09 PM
(https://www.connosr.com/image/2/360/720/2/images/products/glen-moray-12-year-old-568444.jpg)

Decent drop this.  :dop:
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Doge on November 10, 2017, 05:02:43 PM
Decent drop this.  :dop:

I wasn't impressed at  all, but apparently I only really like things that taste like rag-wrapped charcoal. :P
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Atjan on November 17, 2017, 07:01:18 AM
I wasn't impressed at  all, but apparently I only really like things that taste like rag-wrapped charcoal. :P
Hehe, ok then you better not buy anything I like.  ;D
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Toxxyc on December 05, 2017, 10:09:28 AM
Alright ladies and gents, I got myself a R300 TAKEALOT voucher, so I'm looking for a good whisky to get from them.  Now, on top of the voucher I would like to spend around R400~R500, so my target market is the R700~R800 price range.  Nothing fancy, but I hope to break free from the Glenfiddich 12YO grip.  I love it as a "cheaper" every day drinker, but I'm looking at expanding my horizons a bit.  To give you an idea of what I like, I do enjoy a good Glenfiddich 12YO with some whisky stones and a drop of water.  I also LOVE The Glenlivet 12YO (also with some stones and a drop of water) and I always have some Glen Grant's Major Reserve (cheap one, good with ice) as a quick drink at home at all times.  I'm not averse to it, but I would prefer not buying a whisky that is too smokey.  To give you an idea, I find the overwhelming smoke taste on Three Ships to be a bit too much.  It kills the other flavours for me.

Anyway, what I've been looking at are:

https://www.takealot.com/bunnahabhain-12-year-old-islay-single-malt-whisky-750ml/PLID40687695 (https://www.takealot.com/bunnahabhain-12-year-old-islay-single-malt-whisky-750ml/PLID40687695) - Seems to be getting good reviews, and it's heavily marked down.

https://www.takealot.com/ardbeg-10-year-old-single-malt-whisky-750ml/PLID40724383 (https://www.takealot.com/ardbeg-10-year-old-single-malt-whisky-750ml/PLID40724383) - had this once before, but all I remember is that I loved it.  Can't remember the taste, and reviews are stating that it's quite smokey.  I don't remember it that way, so not too sure.  Price is attractive though.

https://www.takealot.com/glenfiddich-14-year-old-rich-oak-single-malt-whisky-750ml/PLID40724220 (https://www.takealot.com/glenfiddich-14-year-old-rich-oak-single-malt-whisky-750ml/PLID40724220) - looks good, but seems to be just a bit more than the 12YO.  Not sure it justifies the price, then, to be honest.

https://www.takealot.com/glenmorangie-quinta-ruban-12-year-old-single-malt-whisky-750ml/PLID40724375 (https://www.takealot.com/glenmorangie-quinta-ruban-12-year-old-single-malt-whisky-750ml/PLID40724375) - I love the colour and the promise of "sweet", but nothing more seems to come to font.  Flavours doesn't seem too complex, and it bothers me a little.

https://www.takealot.com/glenfiddich-single-malt-scotch-whisky-750ml/PLID44909058 (https://www.takealot.com/glenfiddich-single-malt-scotch-whisky-750ml/PLID44909058) - honorary mention, I have no idea what this is or how it'll compare to the rest of the lineup.  Reviews pin it as "plain" in my eyes.

https://www.takealot.com/dalwhinnie-15-yo-scotch-whisky-1-litre/PLID41670085 (https://www.takealot.com/dalwhinnie-15-yo-scotch-whisky-1-litre/PLID41670085) - heavily marked down.  Also, 1l is a nice addition.  Gets very good reviews, and I'm leaning toward this one, to be honest.

https://www.takealot.com/glenfiddich-15-year-old-solera-reserve-single-malt-whisky-750ml/PLID40724222 (https://www.takealot.com/glenfiddich-15-year-old-solera-reserve-single-malt-whisky-750ml/PLID40724222) - Because I've always wondered how this will compare to the 12YO.  Worth the price tag, though?  Seems overpriced, and technically over my budget.

https://www.takealot.com/glenlivet-15-year-old-french-oak-in-gift-box/PLID43688670 (https://www.takealot.com/glenlivet-15-year-old-french-oak-in-gift-box/PLID43688670) - Again seems a bit "plain", and to me at least less worth it than two bottles of the Glenlivet 12YO instead.  Over budget anyway.

So yeah, this is my conundrum.  It's a nice one to have, to be honest...  :D
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: andredt on December 05, 2017, 10:27:23 AM
The current batch i think 21 of monkey shoulder is really nice for just over the 300 bucks i really enjoy it.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Vernen on December 05, 2017, 10:48:56 AM
Alright ladies and gents, I got myself a R300 TAKEALOT voucher, so I'm looking for a good whisky to get from them.  Now, on top of the voucher I would like to spend around R400~R500, so my target market is the R700~R800 price range.  Nothing fancy, but I hope to break free from the Glenfiddich 12YO grip.  I love it as a "cheaper" every day drinker, but I'm looking at expanding my horizons a bit.  To give you an idea of what I like, I do enjoy a good Glenfiddich 12YO with some whisky stones and a drop of water.  I also LOVE The Glenlivet 12YO (also with some stones and a drop of water) and I always have some Glen Grant's Major Reserve (cheap one, good with ice) as a quick drink at home at all times.  I'm not averse to it, but I would prefer not buying a whisky that is too smokey.  To give you an idea, I find the overwhelming smoke taste on Three Ships to be a bit too much.  It kills the other flavours for me.

Anyway, what I've been looking at are:

https://www.takealot.com/bunnahabhain-12-year-old-islay-single-malt-whisky-750ml/PLID40687695 (https://www.takealot.com/bunnahabhain-12-year-old-islay-single-malt-whisky-750ml/PLID40687695) - Seems to be getting good reviews, and it's heavily marked down.

https://www.takealot.com/ardbeg-10-year-old-single-malt-whisky-750ml/PLID40724383 (https://www.takealot.com/ardbeg-10-year-old-single-malt-whisky-750ml/PLID40724383) - had this once before, but all I remember is that I loved it.  Can't remember the taste, and reviews are stating that it's quite smokey.  I don't remember it that way, so not too sure.  Price is attractive though.

https://www.takealot.com/glenfiddich-14-year-old-rich-oak-single-malt-whisky-750ml/PLID40724220 (https://www.takealot.com/glenfiddich-14-year-old-rich-oak-single-malt-whisky-750ml/PLID40724220) - looks good, but seems to be just a bit more than the 12YO.  Not sure it justifies the price, then, to be honest.

https://www.takealot.com/glenmorangie-quinta-ruban-12-year-old-single-malt-whisky-750ml/PLID40724375 (https://www.takealot.com/glenmorangie-quinta-ruban-12-year-old-single-malt-whisky-750ml/PLID40724375) - I love the colour and the promise of "sweet", but nothing more seems to come to font.  Flavours doesn't seem too complex, and it bothers me a little.

https://www.takealot.com/glenfiddich-single-malt-scotch-whisky-750ml/PLID44909058 (https://www.takealot.com/glenfiddich-single-malt-scotch-whisky-750ml/PLID44909058) - honorary mention, I have no idea what this is or how it'll compare to the rest of the lineup.  Reviews pin it as "plain" in my eyes.

https://www.takealot.com/dalwhinnie-15-yo-scotch-whisky-1-litre/PLID41670085 (https://www.takealot.com/dalwhinnie-15-yo-scotch-whisky-1-litre/PLID41670085) - heavily marked down.  Also, 1l is a nice addition.  Gets very good reviews, and I'm leaning toward this one, to be honest.

https://www.takealot.com/glenfiddich-15-year-old-solera-reserve-single-malt-whisky-750ml/PLID40724222 (https://www.takealot.com/glenfiddich-15-year-old-solera-reserve-single-malt-whisky-750ml/PLID40724222) - Because I've always wondered how this will compare to the 12YO.  Worth the price tag, though?  Seems overpriced, and technically over my budget.

https://www.takealot.com/glenlivet-15-year-old-french-oak-in-gift-box/PLID43688670 (https://www.takealot.com/glenlivet-15-year-old-french-oak-in-gift-box/PLID43688670) - Again seems a bit "plain", and to me at least less worth it than two bottles of the Glenlivet 12YO instead.  Over budget anyway.

So yeah, this is my conundrum.  It's a nice one to have, to be honest...  :D
Bunnahabhain 12 is stunning for the price. So is Glendronach 12 and Redbreast 12.

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Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Larry on December 05, 2017, 11:16:19 AM
This is my go to guy:

https://www.takealot.com/glenfiddich-distillery-edition-single-malt-whisky-750ml/PLID40724232
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Toxxyc on December 05, 2017, 11:36:51 AM
Bah.  They changed the pricing on TAKEALOT after I posted this.  Many prices no longer in my budget.  Considering more and more to get get two cheaper bottles I know now, specially with the enjoying season coming up.  Can perhaps run a head-to-head with a few single malts then.  Eh.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Larry on December 05, 2017, 11:39:14 AM
Bah.  They changed the pricing on TAKEALOT after I posted this.  Many prices no longer in my budget.  Considering more and more to get get two cheaper bottles I know now, specially with the enjoying season coming up.  Can perhaps run a head-to-head with a few single malts then.  Eh.

The Bunnahabhain is still R549.  As noted previously, that's pretty good value.

Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Toxxyc on December 05, 2017, 11:46:56 AM
The Bunnahabhain is still R549.  As noted previously, that's pretty good value.

It does seem that way yes, but I'm on the fence about it.  I'm not a big fan of heavily smokey whiskies, and the tasting notes state that it might be too smokey for my taste.  Worth it to give it a try?
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: andredt on December 07, 2017, 03:14:39 PM
It does seem that way yes, but I'm on the fence about it.  I'm not a big fan of heavily smokey whiskies, and the tasting notes state that it might be too smokey for my taste.  Worth it to give it a try?
Peaty :)
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: vleisman on December 07, 2017, 03:38:18 PM
Peaty :)

Once you like peaty you never go sweety
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: LouisF on December 07, 2017, 04:40:04 PM
The current batch i think 21 of monkey shoulder is really nice for just over the 300 bucks i really enjoy it.
Where?
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: LouisF on December 07, 2017, 05:49:36 PM
I got a bottle of Glenlivet as a prezzie last month. I'm really enjoying it - a  bit more complex without being a peat beast.

So then I stupidly thought I'd try a cheaper one for back-up and got a bottle of Canadian Club. It's absolute rubbish.  :puke: Any ideas for cocktails?
The Irish hold that whiskey had been invented there and was later adopted by the Scots. It seems the Scots are still not getting it quite right.  :sh1tstirrer:

Almost like the tale of the bagpipes which goes that it was invented by who knows who, but in any event it was picked up on the shore of China by one of them. They tried for centuries to make sense of the thing but could never master the darn thing and eventually took it out in of their junks and dumped it far from land in the deep sea. In time, it one day washed out on a Scottish beach where a Scotsman found it. They have been struggling with the thing for the past thousand years or so - ever heard of a Scotsman throwing something away? - and can still not make it work.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: andredt on December 08, 2017, 06:56:28 AM
Where?
pick n pay liquor bought another bottle last night was 329 bookarooos.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Vernen on December 08, 2017, 07:27:19 AM
It does seem that way yes, but I'm on the fence about it.  I'm not a big fan of heavily smokey whiskies, and the tasting notes state that it might be too smokey for my taste.  Worth it to give it a try?
Whilst Bunnahabhain is made on Islay it is generally unpeated. They do have some peated whisky but their core range of 12, 15 and 18 are delicious and only have a slight hint of peat.

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Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Larry on December 08, 2017, 08:00:54 AM
Whilst Bunnahabhain is made on Islay it is generally unpeated. They do have some peated whisky but their core range of 12, 15 and 18 are delicious and only have a slight hint of peat.

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agreed -  certainly isn't peaty like La Phroaig
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Toxxyc on December 08, 2017, 09:43:42 AM
Bunhaddna (damn this name) aain is up in price.  Still haven't received my SARS money, damn.

Anyway, to those interested, Checkers Liquor is having a nice sale on whiskies now.  Think I might get in there this weekend still...  :D

https://specials.checkers.co.za/deals/hocheckersliquorshopspecials04dec17dec/2-3/
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Nadfan on December 08, 2017, 04:07:02 PM
It does seem that way yes, but I'm on the fence about it.  I'm not a big fan of heavily smokey whiskies, and the tasting notes state that it might be too smokey for my taste.  Worth it to give it a try?

Toxxyc

To add to the other comments, that 12 Bunnahabain has a lovely taste! Not offensive at all.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Shonver on December 08, 2017, 04:10:17 PM
Bain's Cape Mountain (goat) whisky is on special! And it's a gift pack!
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: vleisman on December 15, 2017, 08:53:32 AM
Bugger whisky, this stuff is liquid gold (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171215/e0dc94a079856bff83f4b99d09406b10.jpg)

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Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Nirvana on December 16, 2017, 09:50:12 AM
^ Yep,bought my boet one last year,simply for the uniqueness and funky label - he loved it!

Now if only I can remember where I bought it!  :facepalm:
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Larry on December 16, 2017, 12:08:40 PM
^ Yep,bought my boet one last year,simply for the uniqueness and funky label - he loved it!

Now if only I can remember where I bought it!  :facepalm:

It’s weird - wine is a hobby I love and brandy is just a change in approach to that, hell, it even starts out as wine and aged in oak.  But I really just cannot get into it.

But whiskey I can do!

Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: vleisman on December 16, 2017, 05:54:59 PM
^ Yep,bought my boet one last year,simply for the uniqueness and funky label - he loved it!

Now if only I can remember where I bought it!  :facepalm:

We bought at Vaughn Johnson's shop in V&A Waterfront
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Toxxyc on December 18, 2017, 07:55:30 AM
OK, so I went and bought with my wallet.  I ended up getting a Dahlwinnie 15YO 1 liter, as well as a Glenmorangie Lasanta 120YO for a grand total of...  R988.  They had specials and I paid with the voucher I had, so all-in-all not expensive at all.  Reasoning:

Glenmorangie Lastana - I like sweeter whiskies and this one seems sweet, with no smoke or peat.  I think I'll like this one.

Dalwhinnie 15YO - Sweet, like I like my whiskies, and it's a 1l bottle for a steal.  Even cheaper than the ODO deal from the other day - and without the shipping charges!
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: adie on December 18, 2017, 08:36:13 AM
It’s weird - wine is a hobby I love and brandy is just a change in approach to that, hell, it even starts out as wine and aged in oak.  But I really just cannot get into it.

But whiskey I can do!

Ditto, though I walked into Charles Withington's The Darling Wine Shop one day and he offered me some of his potstill Voorkamer Brandy. I said "I don't like brandy". He insisted. "I'll have that!" I exclaimed after one sip.
I never had another sip as I gave it away.
Is that what they call "the exception that proves the rule", cos I have a 12 year old Van Ryn's Reserve that I haven't managed to finish in ages?
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Toxxyc on December 18, 2017, 08:57:49 AM
Nah some people like it, some don't.  I enjoy brandy on occasion, but not nearly enough to justify spending whisky prices on a bottle.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Nirvana on December 18, 2017, 01:58:54 PM
Among brandies I only drink the 38% stuff,and I have to admit I certainly enjoy some of them.

I do feel that most Cognac's are overpriced though...
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Toxxyc on December 21, 2017, 11:42:27 AM
In time for the holidays and the weekend:

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Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Doge on February 15, 2018, 03:21:18 AM
Hehe, ok then you better not buy anything I like.  ;D

I've actually since discovered a peated version which I really like, very good for something that only costs around £22.

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Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Atjan on March 02, 2018, 05:49:21 AM
I've actually since discovered a peated version which I really like, very good for something that only costs around £22.

(https://img.thewhiskyexchange.com/900/gmyob.non6.jpg)
Cool, I might give it a go myself.  :dop:
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Larry on March 21, 2018, 06:29:59 PM
Popped up on the daily deals at Takealot...



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Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: raj on May 14, 2018, 11:39:34 AM
this weekend: world whisky day..checkers have their 20% off again!! happy dramming guys!! :2thumbs: :dop:
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Juggy on June 20, 2018, 12:22:36 PM
I ordered a 15 y/o Dalwhinnie from Take A Lot which I am looking forward to.

https://www.takealot.com/dalwhinnie-15-year-old-scotch-whisky-1-litre/PLID41670085

Good price for a 1 liter compared to Makro for a 750ml

https://www.makro.co.za/liquor/dalwhinnie-/br-15-yo-single-highland-malt-scotch-whisky-in-gift-box-/br-1-x-750ml--1204320EA
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Toxxyc on June 20, 2018, 12:40:04 PM
I ordered a 15 y/o Dalwhinnie from Take A Lot which I am looking forward to.

https://www.takealot.com/dalwhinnie-15-year-old-scotch-whisky-1-litre/PLID41670085

Good price for a 1 liter compared to Makro for a 750ml

https://www.makro.co.za/liquor/dalwhinnie-/br-15-yo-single-highland-malt-scotch-whisky-in-gift-box-/br-1-x-750ml--1204320EA

It's a classic, classic Speyside single malt.  Very smooth, very light and very easy to drink.  Think refined Glenfiddich 12YO.  I'm a fan, just not the biggest.  There are "lekkerder" whiskys out there for the price, IMO.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: H8rlequin on September 09, 2018, 02:56:07 PM
Eish this thread. Making me very thirsty indeed!

I often compare speakers to whiskey, it's very much a taste thing and the more you spend the more subtle the difference.

I'd kill for a nice single malt right now.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Doge on September 09, 2018, 11:03:42 PM
A relatively new offering from Dublin. I'm mighty impressed.

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Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: kamikazi on September 10, 2018, 08:50:04 PM
Wife brought me a bottle of Ardmore Traditional Peated whisky from the Dubai duty free. Very nice whisky for people who like lots of peat and a bit of smoke in their whiskies and this one has a bit of peppery finish too. Reminds me a bit of the Islay whiskies in character, but this one is from the highlands.

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Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Doge on September 10, 2018, 10:40:08 PM
Wife brought me a bottle of Ardmore Traditional Peated whisky from the Dubai duty free. Very nice whisky for people who like lots of peat and a bit of smoke in their whiskies and this one has a bit of peppery finish too. Reminds me a bit of the Islay whiskies in character, but this one is from the highlands.

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… and sold! *orders bottle*
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: raj on September 23, 2018, 08:32:58 AM
Hey guys..just saw that Three Ships did another Master's Collection release on 19/09/2018..An 8 year old Oloroso Cask..online order/auction..Anyone managed to score this dram..very curious to hear about it?
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: tptb on October 22, 2018, 10:54:15 AM
Hey guys..just saw that Three Ships did another Master's Collection release on 19/09/2018..An 8 year old Oloroso Cask..online order/auction..Anyone managed to score this dram..very curious to hear about it?

It is good if not great.  Lovely nose though.

This weekend nearly finished a Lagavulin 2017 Jazz Festival and Talisker Distillers Edition.  Both exceptional.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: vleisman on October 23, 2018, 06:53:43 PM
Yum yum

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Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Toxxyc on October 24, 2018, 06:50:51 AM
Wow, the colour on that whiskey is exceptional!
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: vleisman on October 24, 2018, 11:53:05 AM
In my non-connoisseur opinion, Buffalo Trace is one of the finest. Considering the price maybe the best - currently R250 at Checkers. It is rich, full and sweet, with a lot of caramel. Perfect for cold weather. In hot weather I like to add a block of ice (gasp) sacrilege maybe but that's the way I like it. Highly recommended.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: abza on October 24, 2018, 12:00:43 PM
Hey guys..just saw that Three Ships did another Master's Collection release on 19/09/2018..An 8 year old Oloroso Cask..online order/auction..Anyone managed to score this dram..very curious to hear about it?

Yup, cracked one open already. While not quite and mind-blowing as their previous 10YO PX cask, it's still a pretty damn exceptional sherried dram. It is heavy, heavy stuff - I dialled it down with water - but easily on par with the other sherry heaver-hitters (think Glenfarclas 105, Aberlour Abunadh, etc.)
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: tptb on October 25, 2018, 01:43:48 PM
In my non-connoisseur opinion, Buffalo Trace is one of the finest.

Still my favorite bourbons (don't like them in general though) and a steal at the price.  Also much loved as feeder stock for barrels on Islay, with the majority of the the Kilchoman stock sitting in casks with BT labels. 

Oh - and Bunnahabhain Eirigh Na Greine on sale at Onedayonly today.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: GoodEnoughGear on October 25, 2018, 01:53:25 PM
Still my favorite bourbons (don't like them in general though) and a steal at the price.  Also much loved as feeder stock for barrels on Islay, with the majority of the the Kilchoman stock sitting in casks with BT labels. 

Oh - and Bunnahabhain Eirigh Na Greine on sale at Onedayonly today.
I'm dubious...a 1l travel release that wouldn't move in duty-free...? Could be 900 buck yuck. Anyone tried this?
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: vleisman on October 25, 2018, 03:00:55 PM
I'm dubious...a 1l travel release that wouldn't move in duty-free...? Could be 900 buck yuck. Anyone tried this?

Nope, haven't tried that one. But...I have enjoyed a bottle of one of their cheaper range. Also had 3 variations at Whisky Live festival a few years back, from a 12 to 18 culminating in a 24 (or 25) year old. All of them were great. I'm busy wrestling with my inner Scrooge, paying R900 bucks is just too far above my comfort level. If anyone wants to buy a bottle, I'm available for tasting anytime  :drool:
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: tptb on October 25, 2018, 04:13:40 PM
I'm dubious...a 1l travel release that wouldn't move in duty-free...? Could be 900 buck yuck. Anyone tried this?

Yes - had it at the distillery a month ago - not to my tastes (I like lots of peat), but good enough that I ordered a bottle for the whisky/gin wall.

Bunnahabhain has improved quite a bit in the last few years under the leadership of Andy Watts (who runs three ships etc).
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: GoodEnoughGear on October 25, 2018, 09:26:15 PM
Yes - had it at the distillery a month ago - not to my tastes (I like lots of peat), but good enough that I ordered a bottle for the whisky/gin wall.

Bunnahabhain has improved quite a bit in the last few years under the leadership of Andy Watts (who runs three ships etc).

Wow, I had no idea Andy was involved...awesome!
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: tptb on October 26, 2018, 08:46:40 AM
Wow, I had no idea Andy was involved...awesome!

Distell bought out Burn Stewart which included Bunnahabhain.  As Andy has spent time on Islay learning the trade in the past, I think he enjoys spending time there as you never hear him talk about visits to, or whats going on at any of the other Burn Stewart distilleries.   Also, have been visiting Islay since before the deal and you can see the change in Bunnahabhain so would be interesting to see where they are in another 10 years.

That said the base spirit for Eirigh Na Greine, despite being no age statement, is from the pre-Distell days, just finished (the red wine casks) in a way that is very Andy.  But quality from Bunnahabhain had been on the increase in those years anyway.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: vleisman on February 01, 2019, 05:29:28 PM
Probably sacrilege, but this stuff is delicious

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Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: LouisF on February 13, 2019, 09:31:01 PM
• Vleisman, where is it available? I have to add that paying in the region of R1k for a bottle of booze is not my idea of value for money though.
 :sh1tstirrer:
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: vleisman on February 13, 2019, 09:58:39 PM
Catherine bought a bottle in Parkview for about R100. Sold out now. It's a liqueur, so shouldn't be expensive
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: LouisF on February 14, 2019, 06:51:16 PM
Of course, most of those are not.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: LouisF on April 17, 2019, 12:11:47 PM
Has anybody tried this one yet?
Auchentoshan American Oak
WAS R689, NOW R289
@ the bottleshop.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: raj on May 17, 2019, 01:31:51 PM
World Whisky Day again!! 18/05/2019
Some decent deals at Makro and Checkers guys!!
Time to stock up perhaps! :dop: :2thumbs:
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Toxxyc on May 17, 2019, 01:34:15 PM
Has anybody tried this one yet?
Auchentoshan American Oak
WAS R689, NOW R289
@ the bottleshop.

It's probably worth the special price, but to me it was overrated.  It tasted like an immature whisky that was over-oaked to provide some flavour.  Not my favourite.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: LouisF on May 26, 2019, 01:50:16 PM
It's probably worth the special price, but to me it was overrated.  It tasted like an immature whisky that was over-oaked to provide some flavour.  Not my favourite.
That's good to know, thanks. In this price class (let's say up to R300), what would you suggest? I have enjoyed Tullamore DEW and Jameson, also JW BL, so apart from those.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: bushtech37 on May 26, 2019, 03:29:40 PM
For slightly more than R300 my favourite is Monkey Shoulder
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Toxxyc on May 27, 2019, 08:52:17 AM
That's good to know, thanks. In this price class (let's say up to R300), what would you suggest? I have enjoyed Tullamore DEW and Jameson, also JW BL, so apart from those.

Glen Grant Major's Reserve Single Malt, IMO, but I'm a single malt fan.  Your range there is very wide, spanning Irish to Scotch, and you like the lighter whiskies.  I think you'll like the Glen Grant Major's Reserve.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: GoodEnoughGear on May 27, 2019, 09:02:36 AM
That's good to know, thanks. In this price class (let's say up to R300), what would you suggest? I have enjoyed Tullamore DEW and Jameson, also JW BL, so apart from those.

I's also give our local Bain's Cape Mountain Whiskey a shot in that range - a little different, but very good, and a bargain at the price.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: LouisF on May 29, 2019, 06:41:28 PM
I am also a fan of single malt on the one hand and Irish whiskey on the other.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: tptb on August 12, 2019, 10:35:46 AM
Was down the Cape Town restauranting, so finally did the Sedgewicks tour (they produce 3 Ships, Bains, odd single cask in their own name etc).  Brilliant tour, the tour leader was going into their costings, their technologies, etc.  Being a whisky nerd have done 30 something (stopped counting a long time ago) different tours in the last few years and this was far and away the best of the official tours.  Well worth the few hours.  Includes a tasting (tastings at whisky distilleries are usually rather robustly poured, unlike most wine farms) of the entire core range along with two of their special editions and some food pairings.  Highly recommended at the price (R250).
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Quad Pipe on August 15, 2019, 02:34:46 PM
I'm planning to do the tour in October.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: LouisF on September 23, 2019, 10:09:17 PM
Was down the Cape Town restauranting, so finally did the Sedgewicks tour (they produce 3 Ships, Bains, odd single cask in their own name etc).  Brilliant tour, the tour leader was going into their costings, their technologies, etc.  Being a whisky nerd have done 30 something (stopped counting a long time ago) different tours in the last few years and this was far and away the best of the official tours.  Well worth the few hours.  Includes a tasting (tastings at whisky distilleries are usually rather robustly poured, unlike most wine farms) of the entire core range along with two of their special editions and some food pairings.  Highly recommended at the price (R250).
Where would I find them. Google apparently don't know them.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: tptb on September 24, 2019, 05:45:42 AM
Where would I find them. Google apparently don't know them.

https://www.threeshipswhisky.co.za/art-of-whisky-making/distillery

You can book a tour from their website.  I see it is now R350.  Still well worth it. 
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: LouisF on September 24, 2019, 08:15:37 AM
https://www.threeshipswhisky.co.za/art-of-whisky-making/distillery

You can book a tour from their website.  I see it is now R350.  Still well worth it.
Aaaah! I missed a little detail. Thanks.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: TimbaLand on July 31, 2020, 06:36:47 PM
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Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Vernen on August 24, 2020, 03:49:28 PM
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What a lovely dram.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: AlienLlama on September 03, 2020, 08:22:56 PM
Anyone tried Glen Moray Single Malt? Very nice for the price.


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Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Nirvana on September 04, 2020, 06:37:52 PM
Apparently the Port Cask finish ain't too bad, but I'd say the others are priced about right at just below R300...

 :2c:
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: AlienLlama on September 04, 2020, 06:39:50 PM
Apparently the Port Cask finish ain't too bad, but I'd say the others are priced about right at just below R300...

 :2c:
I was actually so impressed by the classic single malt that I want to try all the renditions. So I'll start with the port and go on to the chardonnay


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Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: LouisF on October 26, 2020, 02:08:08 PM
Does anybody have any news about https://bottlestore.co.za/aisle/whisky/ ?
I can hardly believe my eyes when the site showed they have no Glenfiddich.
I see Checkers Liquor shop has some whiskies that look like good buys to me.
Like Glenfiddich 15 YO @ R729,99 - what bothers me is that they describe it as a blend whereas I always had it that Glenfiddich is a single malt.

Any suggestions for a peaty whisky at around R300 - 400?
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Tirion on October 26, 2020, 06:07:57 PM
"Any suggestions for a peaty whisky at around R300 - 400?"
Have you tried Laphroaig Select?
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Rockit on October 27, 2020, 09:45:04 AM
Hi
I think the Laphroaig Select is "not nice". The 10yo is one of my favourites.
For that budget I'd go for (blended) Famous Grouse Smoky Black.
Off topic - Jack Daniels Rye is fantastic! And that's from an "experienced" single malt drinker.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: LouisF on October 27, 2020, 02:37:04 PM
I remember having had a Laphroaig some ten years or more ago, but that was still very early in my whisky experience - that is why I could remember the name after all this time. I can anyway not remember how I liked it nor whether it was a Select or otherwise. Shall have to have a closer look, I mean taste, soon.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: vinyljan on October 30, 2020, 07:41:45 PM
"Any suggestions for a peaty whisky at around R300 - 400?"
Have you tried Laphroaig Select?

+1 for Famous Grouse, maybe try "Black Bottle".  Not to much peat, but I quite like it :thumbs:
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Toxxyc on November 04, 2020, 01:18:39 PM
If you want peat at R400, you can do a lot worse than Laphroaig Select.  Yes it's a bit watered and a bit weaker, but it's probably the best peat you'll find in the price point.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Vince MacMahon on November 04, 2020, 02:15:24 PM
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Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: kamikazi on November 04, 2020, 09:03:36 PM
Anyone tried Glen Moray Single Malt? Very nice for the price.


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Bought a bottle or 2 of these and is a very nice single malt for the price.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Josh7 on December 01, 2020, 03:00:11 PM
Any suggestions for a peaty whisky at around R300 - 400?

I tasted a delicious peat Whisky at the Whisky shop in Dullstroom pre lockdown called "Big Peat."

The price as far as I can remember is around R600.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: naks on December 13, 2020, 05:40:43 PM
restocked my shelves after lockdown.

From this:

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To this:

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Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Josh7 on January 08, 2021, 03:10:17 PM
Here is a lovely earthy, peaty Whisky I had over the Christmas break:

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Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Luben on January 08, 2021, 08:27:09 PM
Here is a lovely earthy, peaty Whisky I had over the Christmas break:

(https://i.postimg.cc/bw7Rbc9j/IMG-6224.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/dh9dPffW)
You should try this then, it's fabulous
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Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Vince MacMahon on January 09, 2021, 09:02:44 AM
An awesome member (from here), sent me this over the festive season.

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I haven’t opened it yet!

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Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Josh7 on January 11, 2021, 12:17:10 PM
You should try this then, it's fabulous
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I will give it a go once restrictions are lifted  :whistler:
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Josh7 on February 18, 2021, 10:05:37 AM
What is your favourite go to Daily/Weekly drinking Whisky that doesn't break the bank?

I've grown very fond of Connor McGregors Proper No.12 Whisky. Nice and smooth on the rocks. Price is around R330 a bottle. :dop:

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Josh.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Luben on February 18, 2021, 10:56:59 AM
What is your favourite go to Daily/Weekly drinking Whisky that doesn't break the bank?

I've grown very fond of Connor McGregors Proper No.12 Whisky. Nice and smooth on the rocks. Price is around R330 a bottle. :dop:

(https://i.postimg.cc/mc3vCfP2/20181112172702-Conor-Mc-Gregor-Bar.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/mc3vCfP2)

Josh.
Three ships 5 year old, decent peat, cheaper and supporting local.

No way I'm supporting Connor McGregor
https://www.scmp.com/sport/martial-arts/mixed-martial-arts/article/3023154/conor-mcgregor-allegedly-punches-elderly-man


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Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Josh7 on February 18, 2021, 11:01:54 AM
Three ships 5 year old, decent peat, cheaper and supporting local.

No way I'm supporting Connor McGregor
https://www.scmp.com/sport/martial-arts/mixed-martial-arts/article/3023154/conor-mcgregor-allegedly-punches-elderly-man


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Thanks Luben, must have missed this McGregor incident. Will give Three Ships a go, always open to trying new Whisky's.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: adie on March 25, 2021, 09:02:04 PM
^^^
Unofficial Three Ships PRO here... https://gadget.co.za/sa-whisky-distiller-gets-inducted-into-whisky-mag-hall-of-fame/ (https://gadget.co.za/sa-whisky-distiller-gets-inducted-into-whisky-mag-hall-of-fame/)
Go to 1:18:22- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkZpBd8UtF4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkZpBd8UtF4)
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: kamikazi on April 23, 2021, 04:02:19 PM
Most recent whisky I tried was the Ardbeg 10 yo which was excellent, perhaps my favourite Islay whisky so far. Thought it struck a perfect balance as far as Islay whiskies go with its amount of smoke, peat though the iodine was perhaps a bit more evident compared to Laphroaig and Lagavulin.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: JayMac on April 27, 2021, 03:11:06 PM
I found this some years ago (and there was a similar one on malts.com but it disappeared subsequently)
(https://i.postimg.cc/fSRyd90x/Whisky-flavour-chart.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/fSRyd90x)

Quite handy to use it as a guide to find other whiskies near the ones that you like already (or equally valid: to avoid whiskies near the ones you don't like!)

So if you think you are a rational person (or even if you like a bit of structure or logic to your whisky preferences) you may enjoy this (downloaded today from https://whiskyanalysis.com/index.php/methodology-introduction/methodology-flavour-comparison/)

JayJay


METHODOLOGY – MODERN MALT FLAVOUR MAP
Following from the discussion of the early attempts at flavour classification, it is time now to explain how you can work from flavour component scales to build a scientifically-validated classification scheme for malt whiskies.

When starting from scratch, this is a very labour intensive process. It involves extensive data collection, as the number of category scales needed are significant, and the data must be drawn from an extensive range of expert reviewer sources. It also requires editorial judgement, as experts seldom agree on everything. But once collated and properly curated, a proper cluster analysis of core flavour profiles can be performed, and validated against the underlying dataset. This dataset is ultimately be based on the frequency and/or qualified intensity of a controlled vocabulary lexicon among reviewers.

Some people will argue at this point “but every whisky has a unique flavour, you can possibly classify them”. It is true that at a sufficient level of detail, each whisky is unique. But the same can be said for every natural process or living thing in this Universe, and yet we still regularly classify things into major categories. The question is whether or not you have a proper objective evidence base for the classification, or if it is simply ad hoc and personal. If you are working from enough category scales, with enough gradations per scale (both properly validated), then you should be able to statistically pull out valid major categories from the data.

The point here is to see the forest for the trees, not focus on the shape of an individual tree. And to do so in a way that is rigorously supported by evidence, not intuitive “feel”. In the end, this will give you a way to navigate the major byways of whisky flavour, to help you find those really interesting individual trees. 🙂

Cluster Analysis

Clustering is actually a well-established area of statistical modeling. It is widely used in biology and psychology research, but can be applied to just about anything with data to segment and mine (i.e., everything from the phylogenetic relationships between plants to categorizing people’s fashion choices). It allows us to pull out interesting subsets of data based on how similar or different certain subgroups are from others in the whole set. And best yet, the validity of these methods can themselves be examined statistically, to determine the validity of the approach and the results.

A fun recent example of clustering is a statistical analysis of the core elements in the paintings of Bob Ross (he of the “almighty mountains” and “happy little accidents” on the frequently re-run PBS show, the Joy of Painting). 🙂

Principal Component Analysis (PCA)

Of course, reducing a large number of category scales into a (somewhat) smaller number of clusters is only so useful in characterizing flavour profiles. After the cluster anaylsis is done, a principal component analysis (PCA) can then be used to determine which characteristics explain most of the variance in the clusters, narrowing down the information into more manageable comparisons. Basically, you can think of a PCA as a means to reveal the underlying structure of the data, in a way that best explains the variance. In practical terms, it is often used to reduce a large number of dimensional scales into something more manageable, if that reduction is supported by the variance in the data.

Although it is a lot of work to do, the extensive range of information already available on whiskies suggests that a cluster analysis followed by PCA is certainly feasible – and would likely yield relevant and justifiable results. Fortunately for me, someone has already done exactly this. Building on the earlier work I described in whisky flavour component development, Dr. David Wishart of the University of St Andrews has created a detailed modern flavour profile of single malt scotch whiskies – based on clustering and PCA.

You can learn more about the specific system developed by Dr. Wishart in his 2009 article in the journal of the Royal Statistical Society Significance: Volume 6, Issue 1, pages 20–26, March 2009 (DOI: 10.1111/j.1740-9713.2009.00337.x). It is also well covered (in more layman language) in his excellent book Whisky Classified.

This existing example provides a great deal of reassurance that the fundamental approach is valid – and also means I don’t have to re-invent the wheel of a new controlled lexicon and validation. Instead, I have adopted and revised the existing Wishart’s classification system for flavour. In particular, I am using his clusters as the starting point to expand on a wider range of whiskies (and reviewers). As we will see, this flavour mapping also provides a valuable anchoring point on which to overlay my novel whisky quality-metric meta-analysis. I am hoping to create a full cluster analysis for Canadian whiskies from core categories at some point, but that will have to wait until I have more time. For now, the flavour profile analysis here will remain limited to scotch-style whiskies.

Wishart Flavour Analysis

In the Wishart analysis, earlier flavour classification systems were re-formulated into 12 “cardinal flavour” categories (i.e., core components). Each of these was assigned a score on a 5-point scale, representing the intensity of each flavour. This was based on the curated reviews of a small panel of expert whisky reviewers. He then sent the ratings around to wider number of whisky industry members for their feedback and refinement. This step was important, as there is a large element of personal judgement required in deciding the final scores for each whisky in each category. But as a result, he can make the case that his flavour categories and scores have the tacit approval of the wider Scottish Whisky Industry.

He then ran a cluster analysis and developed a 10 cluster classification, which he simply labelled alphabetically (i.e., custers A-J). The cluster analysis is based on the popular k-means clustering method, with apparently some adjustment to the focal point for more efficient serial re-ordering of the resulting tree.

Whether its due to the clustering algorithm or the selection of core component ratings, his method certainly seems to produce a much better outcome than any of the earlier attempts I’ve seen published.

From there, he ran a PCA to identify the key factors that determine flavour. Although four factors were found to be statistically significant, nearly 50% of the variance in the data could be explained by the following two factors: winey-smokey flavour, and delicate-rich intensity. This allows you to essentially collapse 12-dimensional space into 2-dimentional space (which is helpful for those of us who are not string theorists in Physics departments). 😉

Let’s see what you get if you plot the whiskies in his 10 clusters on a 2-dimentional grid of these two key factors (shown below for the whiskies that overlap in my dataset, color-coded for cluster).

Wishart_mapAnyone with stats experience would likely be suspicious of the pattern to the data above (i.e., the distinctive “V” shape). For normally-distributed datasets, any clear secondary pattern on a chart of the main scales from the PCA would suggest that you haven’t accounted for all the key sources of variance. But this was expected. As Wishart describes, the next significant factor related to cereal/malty and tobacco/herbal notes in the whiskies (and thus likely discriminates young whiskies from those with extensive barrel aging). The fourth significant factor related to degree of spicy/sweet notes in the whiskies.

However, nearly half of the variance is explained by the first two factors shown in the chart above. The third factor only accounted for an additional 10% of the variance, with another 9% for the fourth factor (all other factors were not statistically significant). Given these results, I agree with his conclusion that the chart above can be described as the best 2-dimensional view of the flavour profiles of the whiskies in his analysis.

As a reminder (discussed previously), whisky is an engineered product. There is no reason to assume that whisky flavours are evenly distributed across the possible spectrum of flavours. Indeed, all experience suggests quite the opposite – distillers purposefully craft blended products that appeal to the specific flavour preferences of the consumer. At the end of the day, this flavour comparison chart (based on the PCA of the cluster analysis of the properly curated detailed categories) represents the best known map of whisky flavour.

Methodological Limitations

That said above, I should clarify that like all statistical methods, cluster analysis and PCA both have their inherent limitations.

Different algorithms (clustering methods) will produce different final clusters, given the specific way groups are merged in the analysis. All clustering approaches are dependent on the starting conditions of the analysis (i.e., the way the variables are ordered). And so, with the introduction of additional data over time (i.e., adding more whiskies in this case), the specific assignments of each whisky within the clusters can change.

PCA is dependent on the scaling of the variables, and on any inherent assumptions in the dataset. In other words, you are only as good as your underlying dataset (i.e., the 12 cardinal scale assessments of each whisky in this case). On that front, the Wishart data collection is by far the most extensive and well validated that I have encountered.

In any case, properly constructed clustering analyses can provide the most useful way to segregate out true patterns in complex datasets.

Updating and Expanding the Analysis

For the purposes of the analysis on this site, I have reviewed the final assignment of over a hundred whiskies in the clusters identified by Wishart (present in my database, as still commonly available today). Rather than recreate the original 12 cardinal scales and scores, and re-do the clustering analysis, I have chosen to start from his final 10 flavour clusters and Principal Component Analysis (PCA).

On reviewing the detailed Wishart cluster data, and comparing to the lexicon used by the extended range of reviewers in my sample, I found a small number of whiskies whose flavour cluster assignments required revision. Typically, these were whiskies whose precise alignment in the PCA showed significant overlap with a neighboring cluster anyway (i.e., the overlapping cluster was a better fit for the descriptions from my panel of expert reviewers). As such, about half a dozen whiskies have been re-assigned to neighboring clusters.

Similarly, I found little justification for maintaining flavour cluster “D”, which had relatively few whiskies assigned to it in my dataset – and where the PCA showed two distinct subgroups that were completely overlapped by the neighboring clusters C and E. As a result, the additional half dozen D cluster whiskies were re-assigned to C and E, as most appropriate. Finally, I have expanded the range of cluster assignments for additional whiskies not available during the earlier Wishart analyses, as well as some international whiskies that have a single-malt flavour profile (again using the descriptions by my panel of expert reviewers as a guide).

In terms of the original whiskies analyzed by Wishart, here is a revised chart showing how they relate in my analysis:

Flavour ChartThis chart is the best 2-dimensional description of the final flavour clusters for the whiskies in my dataset that overlap with the Wishart analysis.

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The individual Clusters could be described as follows (with select examples):

A – Full-bodied, sweet, pronounced sherry – with fruity, honey and spicy notes (e.g., Aberlour A’Bunadh, Auchentoshan Three Wood, Glenfiddich 15yo, Glendronach 12yo, Glenmorangie Lasanta)
B – Full-bodied, sweet, pronounced sherry – with fruity, floral and malty notes, some honey and spicy notes may be evident (e.g., Balvenie New Wood 17yo, Glenfarclas 10yo/15yo/17yo, Glengoyne 17yo/21yo, Penderyn Madeira)
C – Full-bodied, sweet, pronounced sherry – with fruity, floral, nutty, and spicy notes, some smoky notes may be evident (e.g., Aberlour 10yo, Glenfarclas 105/12yo/21yo/25yo/30yo, Glenmorangie Signet, Highland Park 18yo)
E – Medium-bodied, medium-sweet – with fruity, honey, malty and winey notes, some smoky and spicy notes may be evident (e.g., Auchentoshan 12yo/18yo, Dalmore 12yo, Glenrothes Select Reserve/Vintage 1989/1991/1992/1994, Old Pulteney, Redbreast 12yo)
F – Full-bodied, sweet and malty – with fruity, spicy, and smoky notes (e.g., Bunnahabhain 12yo, Deanston 12yo, Glen Garioch 10yo/12yo/15yo, Glenlivet French Oak 15yo, Tobermory 10yo)
G – Light-bodied, sweet, apéritif-style – with honey, floral, fruity and spicy notes, but rarely any smoky notes (BenRiach 12yo, Bruichladdich Laddie Classic, Glenfiddich 12yo, Glen Garioch Founder’s Reserve, Glenmorangie 10yo, Jura 10yo)
H – Very light-bodied, sweet, apéritif-style – with malty, fruity and floral notes (e.g., Auchentoshan Classic/10yo, Cardhu 12yo, Dalwhinnie 15yo, Glen Grant 10yo, Tamdhu 10yo)
I – Medium-bodied, medium-sweet, quite smoky – with some medicinal notes and spicy, fruity and nutty notes (e.g., Ardmore Traditional Cask, BenRiach Curiositas 10yo, Bowmore 12yo, Highland Park 12yo, Jura Superstition, Oban 14yo, Talisker 10yo).
J – Full-bodied, dry, very smoky, pungent – with medicinal notes and some  spicy, malty and fruity notes (e.g., Ardbeg 10yo/Corryvreckan/Uigeadail, Lagavulin 16yo, Laphroaig 10yo/15yo/18yo/Quarter Cask, Toumintol Peaty Tang)
Please see the Whisky Database for further examples of each class.

Value of Super Clusters

This chart (and its underlying PCA) also provides a good basis for the formation of “Super Clusters” that combine neighboring clusters with a high degree of overlap (i.e., similar flavour profiles). Wishart himself had proposed specific sets of combined clusters when trying to perform a structured tasting (specifically, along groups of 6 and 4 sets of clusters). My own assessment is similar, with 5 recommended “Super Cluster” groups:

A, B, and C
E and F
G and H
I
J
Note that I do not recommend combining I and J, given the wide range of smokey flavours present. Also, you need to recognize the potential for overlap between neighboring clusters near the margins (e.g., between F and I, or C and E).

By default, I have sorted the whisky data on this site by “Super Cluster” when comparing meta-critic scores. Of course, you are free to re-sort the data however you please. For further information on how to the interpret the data table, including text descriptions of the clusters and super-clusters, please see my discussion here.

It is now time to explain how my novel Meta-Critic scores are constructed, and to further explore some of the interesting correlations and observations in the cluster analysis and PCA, as described on my Interpretation pages.

Further Reading

If you were to buy just one book on whiskies, I would recommend the latest printing of Dr Wishart’s Whisky Classified.

It is surprising to me that this book is not better known among whisky enthusiasts, but I imagine the statistical methodology is not something most people are familiar with. I suspect another reason is that Dr Wishart’s conclusions may not match the idiosyncratic classification systems certain reviewers have developed over their careers. After all, we all tend to trust our own personal intuitive systems – based on subjective experience – even over a more rigourous objective one. This is especially the case if we aren’t familiar with the methodology.

But all systems are open to examination, and as I describe here and on the subsequent Interpretation pages, the Wishart classification system for single malt flavour remains the most scientifically valid and accurate method currently available. It is a great starting point for the unique Meta-Critic quality analysis that I have completed, and the re-assignment of modern whiskies by flavour cluster.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: johan.pretorius on May 08, 2021, 08:34:27 AM
I tried Bulleit Bourbon for the first time last night, pretty good for a so-called entry level bourbon.

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0d/Bulleit_Bourbon_Frontier_Whiskey.jpg)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulleit_Bourbon

https://www.connosr.com/bulleit-bourbon-whiskey-reviews-1478
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Nirvana on May 08, 2021, 05:31:41 PM
^ Hehe, the (very happy!) guy from Tampa, Florida, who bought my P A Budgie, urged me to get this!
His fave go to Bourbon...  :thumbs:
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: johan.pretorius on May 09, 2021, 11:02:52 AM
^ Hehe, the (very happy!) guy from Tampa, Florida, who bought my P A Budgie, urged me to get this!
His fave go to Bourbon...  :thumbs:

Nice, some confirmation from a 'local' :-)

I have my eye on the Parks Audio Puffin (since the Budgie is no longer available). But they've made it difficult, there are now three versions - the unit with 24/96 Toslink output looks the most tempting.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: JayMac on May 09, 2021, 01:21:59 PM
Just for a change, I bought a whiskey (i.e Irish spelling) last week. Usually I don't l;ike them all that much as they tend to be lighter and softer than my preferred Islay styles.

And I needed a bottle for our annual Irish format of croquet last Sunday. So I tried Peaky Blinder - a relatively new release made by Sadler Distillers. Not all all bad and decent value at R229. My fellow croquet players finished the bottle in a couple of hours of short glasses between games....

https://greatdrams.com/sadlers-peaky-blinders-irish-whiskey/
SADLER’S PEAKY BLINDERS SHERRY MATURED IRISH WHISKEY
A blend of grain and malt whiskies, the Peaky Blinders Irish Whiskey from Sadler’s has been finished in Sherry casks. It is full bodied and very smooth, owing to the traditional Irish whiskey making process of triple distillation.

The nose begins with notes of caramel, summer berries and marzipan. It is sweet and smooth. Apples, pears and white grapes add a nice fruity note. There are lots of orchard notes and a hint of warming sherry.

The palate is full of fruit and chocolate, and cinnamon and nutmeg bring in a nice spice. The body is mellow and easy going. Dried fruits give it a chewy texture but never take away from the smoothness.

The finish is full of cinnamon and sherry spice. it lingers of apples and citrus fruits.

While it might be easy to say that producing a Peaky Blinders whisky is a bit of a gimmick, Sadler’s have actually put their money where their mouth is and created a rather impressive dram. We recommend checking it out whether you’re a fan of the show or not.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Kshah on May 10, 2021, 02:12:57 PM
New to the thread, but if its local to support, then Bains gets my vote... i doubt better can be had for the price.

It is however not an Islay styled whizzer...  but definitely easy drinking and "creme bulee" nuanced.. excellent for the price.

Cant comment much on the three ships though...


As for peat, i have had the Smoke Head, and a few of the other popular brands, Ardbeg, Bunnhabain, Lagavulin, Laiproag....

My favourite has to be, Port Charlotte from the Bruichladdich distillery. mmmm delicious
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Tzs503gp on May 10, 2021, 05:47:15 PM
So... guess where my wife works.

Got a special bottle today

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Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: johan.pretorius on May 10, 2021, 05:52:26 PM
Got a special bottle today

(https://i.postimg.cc/05Kh5hVT/484-ED9-A8-9293-4428-B82-D-A76-DF79713-F3.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/G9rXqgwK)

Awesome, do tell once you've sampled some of it  :thumbs:
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: GoodEnoughGear on May 10, 2021, 05:57:40 PM
Wow, a special bottle indeed.
Title: Re: The Whisky thread
Post by: Kshah on May 10, 2021, 08:36:33 PM
OMW.... What a treat... This is really a special something....

Not easy to come by, when they do come up they usually snapped up quick...

Just depends on the vintage, but these are so delicious... Must be sipped neat... Then send a drop or two of water... Swill... Whisky completely changes it's character... It becomes unctuous and coats the mouth...

Definitely one of my absolute favs,

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