Author Topic: So I bought a pair of Bentley FS-150's  (Read 723 times)

Offline Orcish75

So I bought a pair of Bentley FS-150's
« on: February 09, 2021, 04:30:54 PM »
Sorry, this is a long post, just had to share my experience of getting them.

TLDR; Simply the best speakers Iíve heard in their price range, period. Go and demo them and hear for yourself.

I've been wanting upgrade my modded Mission MV-8Es for a little while now, https://www.avforums.co.za/index.php/topic,86302.msg985778.html#msg985778 they've been great, but they lack the punch I've been wanting for HT. They're decent speakers, but the small 6" drivers don't really have the drive to bring movies to life. I'm gonna use them for a stereo setup once we move the HT upstairs.

I've heard the Polk RTi-10/RTi-A7s a few times and really like the sound they produce for HT, especially when driven by a decent power amp. My centre is a Polk CSi-A6 and the surrounds are Polk Monitor 30s, so getting Polk fronts was a no brainer. I had my heart set on getting a pair of RTI-10s or A7s, knowing that I'll also have to fork out for a power amp to get the best from them. Once my mind is made up, I can be a stubborn bas#%*d, nobody's gonna change my mind easily.

Iíve read many posts on the forum that the Bentleys are really good and that anyone considering getting new speakers should at least give them a listen. None of my friends or family have Bentleys so Iíve never had the chance to listen to them or ever really bothered to give them a chance. I bought my Monitor 30s from @Reef  a couple of months ago, he had just been to @BiZKiT ís place to pick up a Bentley sub and on the way, dropped off the Monitor 30s for me. Reef mentioned just how good the Bentleys were and should seriously consider listening to them.

I then started thinking about the Bentleys and thought, meh, perhaps I should ask on the forum and get an idea of the FS-150s vs the RTi-A7s https://www.avforums.co.za/index.php/topic,92319.0.html Bizkit kindly invited me over for a demo, heís not far from me, so I happily accepted the offer. I arrived at Bizkitís place thinking ďAg, well, nothing to lose, letís see what all the fuss is aboutĒ As I walked into the first demo room, I was immediately impressed. Massive TV, FS-150s, FS-250s and some Klipschs all lined up for demos. I eyed the FS-150s straight away and realised just how big they are. I could see that they were gonna be a real threat to the RTi-A7s.

Bizkit played a few songs and demoíd a couple of movies. I was gobsmacked! The FS-150s werenít even being driven by a power amp, just the Marantz AVR (albeit a really decent Marantz) More detailed, crisper, gobs of bass, just so much better than the RTi-A7s. The crossover is really well balanced, the frequency transitions are so effortless. Theyíre slightly on the warm side, just as I like it, no tweeter fatigue. Night and day difference compared to the Klipschs (sorry I canít remember which model they were) The Klipschs had my ears hurting after 5 minutes, the horn tweeters are just way too bright.

I went home a changed man, I couldnít believe just how good the Bentleys were, one of those WTF moments in your life. Look, Iím certainly no audiophile, I didnít have a unicorn pee in my ears as a baby, so the more learned would probably think Iím over-reacting, but apart from speakers that cost 10x more than these, theyíre the best Iíve heard by far. A few people on the forum give Bizkit and the other Bentley dealers a lot of flak for promoting the Bentleys. After my experience listening to them, I honestly cannot fathom why they do it. They are simply that good, all I can say is well done to @Dreamerm6  , @GECO  , Bizkit and the rest of the team.

As it would happen, I mentioned the Bentleys to one of my clients and he said one of his mates had a pair he wanted to get rid of. My client didnít know which ones he had but gave me his contact details to get hold of him. I spoke to the seller and said he had a pair of FS-150s and a FC-150 centre he wanted to get rid of as they were taking up too much space and that he had got a soundbar instead. He offered me a ridiculously low price for them and said I could go see them anytime. I was feeling really bad at this stage as I had told Bizkit that I was really keen on getting a pair from him. I went to check out the speakers and they were in reasonably good condition. After a close inspection, I noticed that the one grill was broken and that the one tweeter was pressed in and had a small nick in it, the sellerís kid had clearly had some fun one day. I told the seller that I wasnít really interested due to the damage, so he knocked down the price even further to a point that I couldnít refuse. I loaded up the speakers in my car and took them home.

Fortunately I have the CSi-A6 as my centre, so I removed the tweeter from the FC-150 centre and replaced the damaged tweeter in the tower. Hooked them up to my Onkyo AVR and couldnít believe what a massive difference they made to my system. I no longer need the subs when listening to music, thereís just too much bass with them running as well. I contacted Bizkit and told him Iíd picked up the Bentleys in a deal I couldnít refuse and felt really bad about it. He was more than gracious about it, he offered to get a replacement tweeter and grill for me, to which I immediately accepted. Bizkitís service and helpfulness has been exemplary, he definitely goes out of his way to please and to help. I canít rate him high enough for what he has done.

The Gods mustíve been smiling on me for some reason, as I bought the Bentleys, @agies  put up an ad for a Rotel RB-985 five channel power amp. https://www.avforums.co.za/index.php/topic,92454.0.html The money I saved in the speaker deal allowed me to buy the amp from Agies. I hooked it all up and ÖÖ.. Wow!!! I was speechless. A match made in heaven. When I cranked it up, the Bentleys simply got louder, zero distortion or clipping, even to the point where my ears started hurting, they were still crystal clear. The bass was literally causing the windows and trinkets to rattle. Iím not trying to blow my own horn, I say this without ego, but the setup now simply blows any cinemaís sound to smithereens (except perhaps the better IMAXs and Premier cinemas). I canít wait in the evenings once the kids are in bed and can slap in a Blu-Ray.

I canít get enough of these speakers..

Offline BiZKiT

Re: So I bought a pair of Bentley FS-150's
« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2021, 06:18:24 PM »
Thank you for the kind words and honestly this is why i do it, not for the money its because i love what i do :dop:

Offline Orcish75

Re: So I bought a pair of Bentley FS-150's
« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2021, 07:45:12 PM »
For sure! You have a customer for life, you went well beyond any expectations, despite the fact I bought them elsewhere. Thank you for the great experience.  :2thumbs: When I win the lotto, I'll swing by and buy a full set of Definitive Technologies from you.  :rubhands:

Offline 70007

Re: So I bought a pair of Bentley FS-150's
« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2021, 07:50:08 AM »
Very interesting read and glad you're over the moon with your purchase. I've been eyeing the Bentleys with a keen interest every time a post about them pops up. I have Polk RTI-10's and also the CSI-A6 playing through a Denon AVR 3600. Now my problem is the system sounds awesome when the sub is connected (SVS), but the RTI-10's seriously lacks base when I disconnect the sub. Now I've read many posts on the internet where people say the RTI-10's are very power hungry and one would most of the time need a power amp to drive them.

For the past few months I'm in two minds how to address this (assuming my settings on the AVR are correct, which I think they are); either get a power amp and be done with it (and hopefully this was the reason why the RTI-10's lacks base) or replace the RTI's with Bentleys.  The problem with the last option is the CSI-A6 center speaker, I love this speaker and I'm afraid getting Bentley towers the whole timbre matching issue comes into play again. So I'm keen to hear from you how you find them blending in with your CSI-A6?

BIZKIT I recall you were a Polk fan many moons ago and would probably have some experience with them, any input from your side would be appreciated.

Orcish75, sorry for the slight thread highjack, but this was an perfect opportunity to enquire about my issues. I've been meaning to post about this the last couple of weeks, just never got so far.

Offline Orcish75

Re: So I bought a pair of Bentley FS-150's
« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2021, 08:44:25 AM »
Very interesting read and glad you're over the moon with your purchase. I've been eyeing the Bentleys with a keen interest every time a post about them pops up. I have Polk RTI-10's and also the CSI-A6 playing through a Denon AVR 3600. Now my problem is the system sounds awesome when the sub is connected (SVS), but the RTI-10's seriously lacks base when I disconnect the sub. Now I've read many posts on the internet where people say the RTI-10's are very power hungry and one would most of the time need a power amp to drive them.

For the past few months I'm in two minds how to address this (assuming my settings on the AVR are correct, which I think they are); either get a power amp and be done with it (and hopefully this was the reason why the RTI-10's lacks base) or replace the RTI's with Bentleys.  The problem with the last option is the CSI-A6 center speaker, I love this speaker and I'm afraid getting Bentley towers the whole timbre matching issue comes into play again. So I'm keen to hear from you how you find them blending in with your CSI-A6?

BIZKIT I recall you were a Polk fan many moons ago and would probably have some experience with them, any input from your side would be appreciated.

Orcish75, sorry for the slight thread highjack, but this was an perfect opportunity to enquire about my issues. I've been meaning to post about this the last couple of weeks, just never got so far.

Yup, I love the Polk RTi-10s, a friend of mine (well, two actually, one with a power amp and the other without) has a pair of RTi-A7s rigged up to a NAD power amp, I can't remember which one, I'll ask him, and they pump out bass. They are the ones that made me want to buy RTi-10/RTi-A7s in the first place. @Willi has a pair of RTi-A10s rigged up to his Denon and they pump out decent bass as well, hopefully Willi can comment on his setup for you.

Long term, it'll be a good idea to get a power amp, regardless of which speakers you decide upon. The Bentleys sounded really good connected to the AVR, solid bass and decent mids and trebles, but they came alive when I got the Rotel RB-985. They simply played louder and louder, the bass got stronger and stronger as the volume went up, no distortion at all. The other cool thing with a power amp is that it'll last through a few AVR upgrades, the RB-985 is 20 years old and still going strong.

The CSi-A6 is definitely one of the best centres out there, I've tried a few centres, but I always went back to the A6. There is a bit of a timbre mismatch, I had to drop the output level for the centre channel by 3dB to get it reasonably even volume wise. It's not a huge mismatch, the A6 is just slightly brighter than the Bentleys, fortunately not enough to be bothersome.

No worries about the highjack, the more info that can be put out there, the better for people who read the thread in the future who are in the same predicament.  :thumbs:


Offline Orcish75

Re: So I bought a pair of Bentley FS-150's
« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2021, 08:55:56 AM »
@70007

If you were in JHB you'd be welcome to swing by my place and do a head to head comparison.

@Drifter sells Bentleys in CPT, perhaps you can swing by his place with your RTi-A10s and do a head to head. He has a power amp so you'll be able to hear if it makes a difference to your RTi-10s, especially in the bass department.

Offline 70007

Re: So I bought a pair of Bentley FS-150's
« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2021, 09:17:46 AM »
Thanks for the quick reply Orcish75. Yes I'm in the northern suburbs area (CT) and I believe Drifter as well. I'm going to play around with my amp settings and see if I'm not perhaps missing something somewhere, would be interested to know Willi's AVR settings, since it appears we have similar setups.

These RTI-10's are really heavy, so would try to avoid moving them around to other venues for testing, but of that is what it takes at the end of the day, so be it then.

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Re: So I bought a pair of Bentley FS-150's
« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2021, 11:14:18 AM »
@70007

If you were in JHB you'd be welcome to swing by my place and do a head to head comparison.

@Drifter sells Bentleys in CPT, perhaps you can swing by his place with your RTi-A10s and do a head to head. He has a power amp so you'll be able to hear if it makes a difference to your RTi-10s, especially in the bass department.

You are more than welcome to come over. I am based in Durbanville, Sonstraal to be exact.
I have a Rotel 1075 set up together with a NAD T778.

If you prefer I can give you a set of 150's and you can demo them at home.

Offline 70007

Re: So I bought a pair of Bentley FS-150's
« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2021, 11:19:46 AM »
You are more than welcome to come over. I am based in Durbanville, Sonstraal to be exact.
I have a Rotel 1075 set up together with a NAD T778.

If you prefer I can give you a set of 150's and you can demo them at home.

Thanks a lot Drifter for the offer. I'll come around your place to chat a bit and then we can take it from there. I'll be in contact in the next week or 2. I'll PM you for your phone nr.

Offline BiZKiT

Re: So I bought a pair of Bentley FS-150's
« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2021, 11:22:33 AM »
Very interesting read and glad you're over the moon with your purchase. I've been eyeing the Bentleys with a keen interest every time a post about them pops up. I have Polk RTI-10's and also the CSI-A6 playing through a Denon AVR 3600. Now my problem is the system sounds awesome when the sub is connected (SVS), but the RTI-10's seriously lacks base when I disconnect the sub. Now I've read many posts on the internet where people say the RTI-10's are very power hungry and one would most of the time need a power amp to drive them.

For the past few months I'm in two minds how to address this (assuming my settings on the AVR are correct, which I think they are); either get a power amp and be done with it (and hopefully this was the reason why the RTI-10's lacks base) or replace the RTI's with Bentleys.  The problem with the last option is the CSI-A6 center speaker, I love this speaker and I'm afraid getting Bentley towers the whole timbre matching issue comes into play again. So I'm keen to hear from you how you find them blending in with your CSI-A6?

BIZKIT I recall you were a Polk fan many moons ago and would probably have some experience with them, any input from your side would be appreciated.

Orcish75, sorry for the slight thread highjack, but this was an perfect opportunity to enquire about my issues. I've been meaning to post about this the last couple of weeks, just never got so far.

So funny i was telling Orcish75 exactly what im going to tell you now. I was the biggest Polk Rti fanboy and yes they are good to start with but then you realize what is out there. The FS150 is miles beyond what my Rti A9 ever was even when driver on a huge Rotel. The Rti looks more intimidating with its curved cabinets and fancy ports but on sound Bentley all the way. Im getting a sealed box set in today that i client had to return that is going for a steal so if interested inbox me, ill do a great deal with a center also to match the front stage. Also like always come pop in for a demo first and feel free to bring the polks.

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Re: So I bought a pair of Bentley FS-150's
« Reply #10 on: February 10, 2021, 11:24:06 AM »
Thanks a lot Drifter for the offer. I'll come around your place to chat a bit and then we can take it from there. I'll be in contact in the next week or 2. I'll PM you for your phone nr.

No problem. You are welcome any time.

I have done some renovations to my listening room but it has turned into one of those projects that just never ends  :facepalm:
I owe a few people demos and I'm planning to do the last few tweaks this weekend.