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Re: Immigration Experiences
« Reply #30 on: November 14, 2019, 10:36:10 AM »
For Ken:

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I have the movie "Hans Christian Andersen" on DVD, I enjoy these old style musicals.  :twothumbs:


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Re: Immigration Experiences
« Reply #31 on: November 14, 2019, 11:03:13 AM »
For Ken:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNy9Hmp2n5Y

I have the movie "Hans Christian Andersen" on DVD, I enjoy these old style musicals.  :twothumbs:

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Ha, my gran also sent me a link to that song, Danny Kaye was my grandad's favourite. The only film of his I've seen is "The Inspector General" - not my cup of tea, but it has its charm.

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Re: Immigration Experiences
« Reply #32 on: December 17, 2019, 07:59:16 PM »
Canada...if native-born Canadians have a problem with the winters, how would it be for South Africans.





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Re: Immigration Experiences
« Reply #33 on: January 19, 2020, 08:34:07 AM »
Whilst everyone has heard of the "brain drain" it was brought home in rather sharp relief yesterday.

We attended a farewell for friends who are emigrating to the UK. He's an electrical engineer turned cloud computing specialist & spent the last 6 months jobless in SA. Applied in the UK & got 3 offers within a month.

When emigrating to the UK the removal company has to obtain a "ticket" from the embassy that correlates your container of goods to your passport/visa/work permit.

The commence each year at number 01. Their ticket was issued on 10 Jan 2020. They are number 814. That is 814 people/families emigrating with their household goods to the UK in the first 10 days of this year!
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Re: Immigration Experiences
« Reply #34 on: January 19, 2020, 09:44:07 AM »
^^^ and that are those fortunate enough to take a container.  A lot to people, especially younger families, sell up EVERYTHING and start fresh that side. Nothing more than the two bag allowance per person.  I know a few.

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Re: Immigration Experiences
« Reply #35 on: January 19, 2020, 12:49:34 PM »
My neighbour moved to New Zealand 13 years ago.  He is a urologist and works in a hospital north of Hamilton.  He came back for 3 weeks this month to see his parents

He has nothing but praise for the country.  It is definitely first world, everything works, there is little crime.  He rented for 4 years then bought a house.  He said the same house here in Constantia that would have been R8m, in NZ it is R12m

Overall, the cost of living is lower, especially food which is much cheaper.  He likes the New Zealand wines.  He has been to the south island several times and says the scenery is breathtaking

He has two boys, 9 and 11.  The school is very casual, no uniforms and the boys do not have to wear shoes if they don't want to.  There is a bus they catch in the next street, free there and it makes 3 trips in the afternoon to cater for extra-mural activities

He says people are a little old-fashioned in some respects but are friendly and welcoming.
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Re: Immigration Experiences
« Reply #36 on: January 19, 2020, 10:41:14 PM »
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When emigrating to the UK the removal company has to obtain a "ticket" from the embassy that correlates your container of goods to your passport/visa/work permit.

The commence each year at number 01. Their ticket was issued on 10 Jan 2020. They are number 814. That is 814 people/families emigrating with their household goods to the UK in the first 10 days of this year!

Interesting.  It fits with some estimates I've seen that show most to the UK, but it's way more than the overall estimates from the same consultants/etc. that mybroadband/businesstech supports.


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^^^ and that are those fortunate enough to take a container.  A lot to people, especially younger families, sell up EVERYTHING and start fresh that side. Nothing more than the two bag allowance per person.  I know a few.

So make it more like 1000, and tomorrow is the 20th.

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Re: Immigration Experiences
« Reply #37 on: January 20, 2020, 09:23:53 AM »
Whilst everyone has heard of the "brain drain" it was brought home in rather sharp relief yesterday.

We attended a farewell for friends who are emigrating to the UK. He's an electrical engineer turned cloud computing specialist & spent the last 6 months jobless in SA. Applied in the UK & got 3 offers within a month.

When emigrating to the UK the removal company has to obtain a "ticket" from the embassy that correlates your container of goods to your passport/visa/work permit.

The commence each year at number 01. Their ticket was issued on 10 Jan 2020. They are number 814. That is 814 people/families emigrating with their household goods to the UK in the first 10 days of this year!

Please PM me details of the agency / contact used for find work in the UK. Have a friend's son who is a specialist in Water related research (studied BSc), he is unemployed despite the honours degree with high marks.His preference is Norwegian region but beggars aren't choosers, for now, he will go where there is work.

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Re: Immigration Experiences
« Reply #38 on: January 20, 2020, 11:58:38 AM »
Please PM me details of the agency / contact used for find work in the UK. Have a friend's son who is a specialist in Water related research (studied BSc), he is unemployed despite the honours degree with high marks.His preference is Norwegian region but beggars aren't choosers, for now, he will go where there is work.

He submitted his CV directly to those companies he'd researched & determined he'd be happy to work for & willing to emigrate for. No agency involved at all.

I have excellent contacts/references at Spencer Stuart, Heidrick & Struggles (which must be the most bizarre name for a head-hunting agency!) as well as Drayton Glendower. I'll PM you my email address & he can make contact with me.
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Re: Immigration Experiences
« Reply #39 on: January 20, 2020, 06:49:16 PM »
Quite ironic.  Electrical engineer and Water.  :-s

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Re: Immigration Experiences
« Reply #40 on: January 20, 2020, 06:53:44 PM »
Quite ironic.  Electrical engineer and Water.  :-s
How did you conclude this?

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Re: Immigration Experiences
« Reply #41 on: January 20, 2020, 07:01:13 PM »
:)   Skills/etc. that SA apparently needs. 




But check the latest matric maths results.   ......Never mind, new school subjects "coding" and robot-building to help in preparing SA for "4IR". 

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Re: Immigration Experiences
« Reply #42 on: January 20, 2020, 07:34:24 PM »


:)   Skills/etc. that SA apparently needs. 

Yes, sorry, a bit slow today. Missed the other post you referred to.

The other reality to consider is that most families who relocate, both are generally "professionals". And if say they have two children, who could potentially also have been future students, you are loosing four people out of the brain pool for each relocation.



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Re: Immigration Experiences
« Reply #43 on: January 20, 2020, 08:13:25 PM »
^^^Since 1980s.   

At one time...(probably around 2010 or so), it seemed most people I knew in the IT division where I worked had family in at least one country overseas.  Although not all "professionals" as such. 
One has aunt in Belgium since early 1990s, sister + family in USA - teacher, brother-n-law had tyre+exhaust fitment co., now has gas station in Atlanta, sister in Saudi Arabia since about 9 years ago - ICU nurse, cousin in Canada, cousin in Australia.  Cousin in Australia had a transport/logistics company in Durban.  One day, after a major episode of employees stealing diesel, he said "f this" and a few weeks later he was setting up in Australia.

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Re: Immigration Experiences
« Reply #44 on: January 21, 2020, 07:13:47 AM »
I have only visited the UK and Portugal; I loved it. Kind of felt like home. What I noticed was that I had no fear, it wasn't a conscious fear, rather an unconscious fear that I realised was absent. If I had kids I would have left a long time ago. For now, I don't know for how much longer, but we have quite a high standard of living compared with quite a few other countries. To be able to buy a house in the UK, is not as affordable as it is here. Some countries  weather could make a SA citizen unhappy.

A colleague of mine emigrated to NZ last year. He is extremely happy. Says that its clean, beautiful, has very low crime and a good standard of living.

My niece and her family emigrated to Ireland in October last year. Her husband was meant to go first, Sarah and their son to follow; she got mugged(luckily not hurt); said that's that, the last straw; left the same time as her husband. They are extremely happy there.

My cousin emigrated about 15 years ago to Canada; said that he would never ever set foot in this country again. Kept his word- didn't even come to his moms funeral. He is very happy there.

My cousin Janice, married an Australian, 25 years ago, been living there since then; has two girls. Very happy there.

Our neighbours in the 80s, emigrated to Australia. They are happy there.

My cousin emigrated to the UK in 1980; he still wants to come back; says that because he has a grand child, he will remain. I suspect that the socialist system in the UK is appealing too. As a liberal globalist, I guess that England is not too appealing at the moment.