Author Topic: Nad M51 or C150 or Essence HDACC II 4K  (Read 3539 times)

Offline Neal

Nad M51 or C150 or Essence HDACC II 4K
« on: July 23, 2019, 05:16:07 PM »
Hi all.
Which to choose.?
My previous HDACC (v.v.nice.. could turn my Balve Audio Predator to max on Sonor Claro 6.2 and no distortion) got hit by lightning.
I must have 2 HDMI and 1 coax and 1 toslink.
The NAD C510 has a volume control..so does the Predator..which may be traded in on a Black Widow, if the Black Widow offers more grip and more clarity.
Or do I go with say a Cambridge Audio CXU  and get a new disc spinner same time?
Thx

Offline FranZAR

Re: Nad M51 or C150 or Essence HDACC II 4K
« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2019, 05:20:52 PM »
I had both the C510 and M51. They are essentially the same DAC inside. Where the C510 has a "volume knob", the M51 volume is only controlled by remote. Both can be set to either fixed or variable volume, so can be used as a digital only pre-amplifier. Sound wise they sound pretty much identical.
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Offline scrarfussi

Re: Nad M51 or C150 or Essence HDACC II 4K
« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2019, 05:45:30 PM »
m51 if you can find it
also listened to both thanks to Franzar
Still prefer the m51  to the c510
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Offline FranZAR

Re: Nad M51 or C150 or Essence HDACC II 4K
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2019, 05:49:48 PM »
m51 if you can find it
also listened to both thanks to Franzar
Still prefer the m51  to the c510

The M51 is very good. Only caveat is, for the Linux users, for some reason the C510 works on USB with Linux and the M51 not. If I recall correctly @scrarfussi ?
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Offline scrarfussi

Re: Nad M51 or C150 or Essence HDACC II 4K
« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2019, 06:22:00 PM »
The M51 is very good. Only caveat is, for the Linux users, for some reason the C510 works on USB with Linux and the M51 not. If I recall correctly @scrarfussi ?
there was a software update that fixed that

First Time around had issues . 2nd time around it was perfect .

I would say the M51 sounds solid beefier than the c510 . maybe its the upsampling in the m51 dont know if they have the same upsampling in the C510
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Offline FranZAR

Re: Nad M51 or C150 or Essence HDACC II 4K
« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2019, 06:34:17 PM »
there was a software update that fixed that

First Time around had issues . 2nd time around it was perfect .

I would say the M51 sounds solid beefier than the c510 . maybe its the upsampling in the m51 dont know if they have the same upsampling in the C510

Ok. Up-sampling is the same in both.
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Re: Nad M51 or C150 or Essence HDACC II 4K
« Reply #6 on: July 25, 2019, 09:26:28 AM »
M51 get's my vote. Looks better and sounds better. But good luck finding one...
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Offline juventino

Re: Nad M51 or C150 or Essence HDACC II 4K
« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2019, 10:16:23 AM »
is the Essence really in the same league as the NAD, if you looking at it just for the HDMI then can understand the Essence, BUT quality wise the NAD should be quite a step up.

There have been a couple of M51 on the forum and AVSA
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Offline Neal

Re: Nad M51 or C150 or Essence HDACC II 4K
« Reply #8 on: July 25, 2019, 12:27:44 PM »
Thanks all.

Offline JJJ

Re: Nad M51 or C150 or Essence HDACC II 4K
« Reply #9 on: August 09, 2019, 09:13:19 AM »
Send you a PM.
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Offline Phase

Re: Nad M51 or C150 or Essence HDACC II 4K
« Reply #10 on: September 09, 2019, 08:21:58 PM »
Went to a mates house to try my Benchmark dac in his system. It never came back so this left me looking for a replacement dac. At the time I was running the Nad M22 amplifier into horns. So this was the ideal opportunity to for once have a matching and nice Looking system. I bought the Nad M51dac.

To put the new boy through its paces I gathered up as many DACs as I could to run back/kcab. In the mix was my old "Benchmark", a friend's Bel Canto DAC3 with Underwood's level 2 UPgrade, MarkC's Denafrips Ares, and a GIANT would enter the mix later...

Also in the mix were 3 SPDIF converters. AudioAero, Xmos and an Audiophillio with battery pack. First we tested the bridges, the AudioAero/M2M was bass heavy on all the DACs. The Xmos was noisy on almost all the DACs. The Audiophillio was in a league all on it's own with a black background. This would later go up against Johan's Berkley but that's a story for another day...

All the DACs were then run through the Audiophillio. In last place was the M51, very detailed but was left sounding very digital on the BIG horns. Didn't like it at all what a disappointment! Second last was the Denafrips, after much hype it was lost against the next two DACs. Runner up was the Benchmark which had replaced the Mytek in my system, best on instruments but a little thick on vocals. TOP place went to the Bel Canto which was best on vocals.

Must tell you this, that I could pick out each DAC almost immediately even when being tricked with the cables going back into the same DAC.

Enter Johan's AudioAero and all of a sudden you have the instruments of the Benchmark together with the Bel Canto's vocals in one DAC and more depth than both of them. For  $12k (new) it better have! Needless to say I ended up with the AudioAero...