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Re: For sle: Line Magnetic 518ia
« Reply #15 on: November 26, 2018, 08:12:31 PM »
Thank  you for your sympathies, wjvrens.

And a steal it is: R65k+ new

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Re: For sle: Line Magnetic 518ia
« Reply #16 on: November 27, 2018, 11:41:41 AM »
This is a great example of the SET art - one of the most addictive tube amps I've heard. You can read my full review here:

https://www.avsa.co.za/line-magnetic-518a-set-integrated-amplifier/

Excellent price, too - even with that scratch! GLWS
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Re: For sle: Line Magnetic 518ia
« Reply #17 on: November 27, 2018, 12:12:05 PM »
I cannot but agree with the posts singing the praises of this affordable piece of audio artistry. I have heard the amp on 2 occasions within different systems(speakers) and it really has a very special sound quality. The build quality is also exceptional. With the right speaker, this would certainly be an end game amp for an enthusiast. At the moment it seems that it is raining good amps in the forum, a number of very good amps on sale, but this SET is probably the cherry to be picked. 

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Re: For sle: Line Magnetic 518ia
« Reply #18 on: November 27, 2018, 02:17:05 PM »
Thank you Deon, Air...

It was supposed to be my final setup. The only thing still missing was the right DAC. And I had my eye on this one:



Not only a pretty face to fit in with the LM518ia, but seems like a very good DAC as well.

https://positive-feedback.com/Issue74/line_magnetic.htm

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Re: For sle: Line Magnetic 518ia
« Reply #19 on: November 27, 2018, 07:38:22 PM »
Just a query here, lots of comment on pairing this with the right speakers, but what would they be?

I'm interested to hear recommendations? Obviously there are many worthy vintage options, (i.e large and efficient), but what "modern" recommendations are out there? Perhaps with pricing in line with the asking price?

Don't mean to hijack the post, but I'm sure others are also interested in the question?

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Re: For sle: Line Magnetic 518ia
« Reply #20 on: November 27, 2018, 08:09:44 PM »
Depending on your budget, I have close to the best DAC up to R100k. Easily. Iíll PM you
I was born analog, not digit by digit....

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Re: For sle: Line Magnetic 518ia
« Reply #21 on: November 27, 2018, 08:19:06 PM »
Just a query here, lots of comment on pairing this with the right speakers, but what would they be?

I'm interested to hear recommendations? Obviously there are many worthy vintage options, (i.e large and efficient), but what "modern" recommendations are out there? Perhaps with pricing in line with the asking price?

Don't mean to hijack the post, but I'm sure others are also interested in the question?

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Re: For sle: Line Magnetic 518ia
« Reply #22 on: November 27, 2018, 09:14:11 PM »
Just a query here, lots of comment on pairing this with the right speakers, but what would they be?

I'm interested to hear recommendations? Obviously there are many worthy vintage options, (i.e large and efficient), but what "modern" recommendations are out there? Perhaps with pricing in line with the asking price?

Don't mean to hijack the post, but I'm sure others are also interested in the question?

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Re: For sle: Line Magnetic 518ia
« Reply #23 on: November 27, 2018, 09:16:57 PM »
Depending on your budget, I have close to the best DAC up to R100k. Easily. Iíll PM you

C'mon Francois, you can't just put it out there..!
Of which DAC do you speak?  :drool:


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Re: For sle: Line Magnetic 518ia
« Reply #24 on: November 27, 2018, 09:27:39 PM »
I have the MingDa 22W version. Played it on Watt Puppy 5's. O crap it was good. Cant do a 8x8m room, but in 4x4 its sublime and way loud enough.
BullFrogs very good
Zingali's absolutely stunning sound
Rethm Sadhana's razy - but here even 3W is enough
Tannoy D900's also perfect, as well as Vusi's (Jazzy) Tannoy TD12. He used 18W...more than enough


And Blue Bull's list is sublime....


Speakers NOT to try:
B&W 8xx
Thiel
Monitor Audio GX/PL 200, 300
Maggies  :point:
Martin Logans
Somehow Quad 2905's hated the SET ?


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Re: For sle: Line Magnetic 518ia
« Reply #25 on: November 28, 2018, 12:39:22 AM »
In my setup it drove Tannoy Westminster SEs, room 8x15m, and always seemed to have a lot in reserve. The listener always quit before the amp.

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Re: For sle: Line Magnetic 518ia
« Reply #26 on: November 29, 2018, 10:30:41 AM »
I can vouch for this amplifier and its greatness! Spent around a week listening to Fanus' setup and it is just sublime!
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Re: For sle: Line Magnetic 518ia
« Reply #27 on: November 29, 2018, 05:21:40 PM »
Thank you, Dewald ^^^

Just a query here, lots of comment on pairing this with the right speakers, but what would they be?

I'm interested to hear recommendations? Obviously there are many worthy vintage options, (i.e large and efficient), but what "modern" recommendations are out there? Perhaps with pricing in line with the asking price?

Maybe read this link: http://www.glow-audio.com/loudspeaker.html

Here is an excerpt:

98-101 dB SPL with 1 watt input:

101:   ZU Loudspeakers*   http://www.zuaudio.com/loudspeakers

    99:     KLIPSCH Heresy III*   

    See also other classic as well as newer KLIPSCH models, with sensitivity ratings typically above 93 dB SPL.

              TANNOY loudspeakers.*  Some models rated 99 dB SPL and up. http://www.tannoy-speakers.com

    (Note: we use a pair of massive 15" Tannoy dual concentric studio monitors to voice our amps)

              ROYAL (Italy) loudspeakers ranging from 93 - 99 dB SPL www.royaldevice.com/donna.htm

    98:     BEAUHORN Loudspeakers.  www.beauhorn.com

              LOWTHER - Full range drivers rated at 98 dB SPL and up.   www.lowther-america.com

     

     

94-97 dB SPL with 1 watt input:

    CERWIN VEGA Loudspeakers - Various models rated from 92 to 97 dB SPL http://www.cerwinvega.com/

              OMEGA Loudspeakers* - Various models rated from 93 to 96 dB SPL  www.omegaloudspeakers.com

              SONIST Loudspeakers* -  www.sonist.com

    FOSTEX full range drivers. http://www.fostexspeakers.com/

              Audio Nirvana

              FRITZ Loudspeakers

              Coincident -  Several models including Triumph rated at 94 db and higher 

     

     

 90-93 dB SPL with 1 watt input:

There are many loudspeakers that fall within this output range, too many to list here, so what you see is simply a small sampling of what is available.

    TEKTON loudspeakers (various full range models)   http://www.tektondesign.com/model41.htm

    Hornshoppe Horns - www.thehornshoppe.com

    Martin Logan LX16 at 92 db SPL

    Monitor Audio Bronze at 90 db SPL

    PSB Alpha B1 at 91 db SPL

    Definitive Technology 45 at 91 db SPL

    Many KEF, B&W, JBL, Definitive Technology, and other bookshelf models fall within this range.

    ADS L420, L520, and L620 at 92 db SPL, 6 ohms nominal and 4 ohms minimum SPL.

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Re: For sle: Line Magnetic 518ia
« Reply #28 on: November 29, 2018, 05:44:41 PM »
Don't blind stare on sensitivity ... look at impedance.

5ohm minimum usually a nice match for tube amps .
Stingray II sounds great with Revel M22s ..min 4.8ohm.86.5dB.Stingray II likes 5 ohm and above ,according to the designing Madam.
Merlins minimum of 6.5ohm ...a breeze with tube amps .89dB
Triode 25 and Simply Italy matches perfect on 6ohm of Max 1s .
Devore and Zu very light loads for tube amps.

There are a few of us that understands the "light load tube amp" nirvana ..It usually takes 20 years of experience before you get it  ;) 

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Re: For sle: Line Magnetic 518ia
« Reply #29 on: November 29, 2018, 06:30:29 PM »
I agree with some (if not all) of the examples of suitable speakers provided by the various members and also agree with Blue Bull that impedance is as important as sensitivity if not more. Even the electrical phase angle of the design can make a difference.

A caveat however, don't ever trust the quoted specs of the manufacturer!!! Try to validate it with a lab test by one of the magazines(Stereophile, Soundstage and avhub.com.au/hi-fi as a starting point and some European mags if you can manage google translate or speak one of the languages) This is one area where most manufacturers are over-optimistic about their product's performance_marketing in control.

This kind of amp requires a bit more homework to get most out of it and not waste money and run in circles.

Yes, it would play with less than ideal matching speakers but it won't be as magical as what it potentially can be.
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