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Offline canman1971

In-Ear-HeadPhones and IEMs - For the Converted
« on: August 20, 2018, 12:34:54 PM »
For the converted:In-Ear Headphones and IEMs

Technology has moved in leaps - TOTL is no longer an uncomfortable wear and a nasty musical experience.

Share your In-Ear-Headphone and IEM experiences  :thumbs:

Offline Michon

Re: In-Ear-HeadPhones and IEMs - For the Converted
« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2018, 01:05:43 PM »
Iíve been thinking about getting a set of CIEM from Ultimate Ears or the like.

Offline canman1971

Re: In-Ear-HeadPhones and IEMs - For the Converted
« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2018, 01:36:22 PM »
Ive tried Jerry Harvey Layla - Loners, if you into serious live hard rock otherwise - ouch!!

Offline canman1971

Re: In-Ear-HeadPhones and IEMs - For the Converted
« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2018, 01:38:16 PM »
Iíve been thinking about getting a set of CIEM from Ultimate Ears or the like.

Never listened to any of the Ultimate Ears Range.

Offline Jaxxon

Re: In-Ear-HeadPhones and IEMs - For the Converted
« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2018, 02:37:27 PM »
I have a set of 1964 ears from when I used to play drums.

IMHO they are superior to most high end headphones for my kind of music.

JAXX

Offline Michon

Re: In-Ear-HeadPhones and IEMs - For the Converted
« Reply #5 on: August 20, 2018, 03:07:57 PM »
I have a set of 1964 ears from when I used to play drums.

IMHO they are superior to most high end headphones for my kind of music.

Which model do you have? How do they compare with the Sennheiser HD600 or HD800 models, if you are familiar with those?


Ive tried Jerry Harvey Layla - Loners, if you into serious live hard rock otherwise - ouch!!

I would need something that is versatile as I listen to a variety of genres.

Offline canman1971

Re: In-Ear-HeadPhones and IEMs - For the Converted
« Reply #6 on: August 20, 2018, 03:29:28 PM »
I have a set of 1964 ears from when I used to play drums.

IMHO they are superior to most high end headphones for my kind of music.

JAXX

Nice, did you custom mould?

Offline canman1971

Re: In-Ear-HeadPhones and IEMs - For the Converted
« Reply #7 on: August 20, 2018, 03:39:10 PM »
Which model do you have? How do they compare with the Sennheiser HD600 or HD800 models, if you are familiar with those?


I would need something that is versatile as I listen to a variety of genres.

Cant really compare them to any of the above, i am running Campfire Andromeda - you just hear detail in the music that was never present, as for the lows, mids, highs, soundstage and pinpoint imaging i would put them in the same league or higher than flagship headphones. Obviously dependent on source - they will sound like a cheap listen out of phones and entry level DAPs

Offline canman1971

Re: In-Ear-HeadPhones and IEMs - For the Converted
« Reply #8 on: August 20, 2018, 04:36:47 PM »
Senn IE800 / IE800S also very good - a few people in SA can vouch for them - source dependent.

Offline Wolvebain

Re: In-Ear-HeadPhones and IEMs - For the Converted
« Reply #9 on: August 20, 2018, 06:33:22 PM »
I have a pair of Shure SE846's... Love them.. tho, they are not as detailed, spacious, or revealing as the HD800S or LCD-4
Why stand on a silent platform?
Fight the war...

Offline canman1971

Re: In-Ear-HeadPhones and IEMs - For the Converted
« Reply #10 on: August 21, 2018, 05:38:00 AM »
I have a pair of Shure SE846's... Love them.. tho, they are not as detailed, spacious, or revealing as the HD800S or LCD-4

Nice pair, never had the pleasure of a listen - certainly regarded as part of the TOTL bunch.

From experience tips and snake oil cabling makes a huge difference on multi-balanced armatures. Ive ordered ALO Reference 8 cables for Andromeda in 3.5mm SE, 2.5mm trrs balanced, 3,5mm trrs balanced and 4.4mm Pentaconn balanced - i have been told CA Andromeda with ALO Reference 8 in balanced will make my head go dilly.

As for tips - Andromeda:

- Comply - no go (rolls of highs, micro detail, narrower soundstage)
- Final type E - no go (same as above with an even narrower soundstage)
- Spinfit or spiral dot - (big soundstage, micro detail deluxe, pin pint imaging, very revealing)

For those who don't know Knowles balanced armatures - these are used in hearing aids  :giggle:

The evolution of in-ear audio

Knowles is the leading manufacture of balanced armature drivers. These drivers, originally developed for hearing aids and other critical listening applications, offer improved fidelity, realism and detail over traditional dynamic drivers. They are incredibly small and lightweight, and provide greater output with less power.

Balanced armature drivers use an electronic signal to vibrate a tiny reed that is balanced between two magnets inside a tiny enclosure. The motion of the reed is transferred to a very stiff aluminum diaphragm. This diaphragm is free of resonances in the audio band, allowing it to produce excellent clarity.

Follow link below:

https://www.knowles.com/products/premium-sound/what-is-balanced-armature



Offline canman1971

Re: In-Ear-HeadPhones and IEMs - For the Converted
« Reply #11 on: August 21, 2018, 07:38:55 AM »
Rong needs to join: For the Converted.

Offline ron g

Re: In-Ear-HeadPhones and IEMs - For the Converted
« Reply #12 on: August 21, 2018, 08:21:13 AM »
Rong needs to join: For the Converted.

will do - just had a few busy days...
& you sit there in the rubble, till it starts to feel like home
mary gauthier

Offline xenithon

Re: In-Ear-HeadPhones and IEMs - For the Converted
« Reply #13 on: August 21, 2018, 01:14:18 PM »
They can indeed be incredibly detailed and present music in an intimate and impressively powerful way.

I previously had a pair of custom Heir Audio IEMs (now known as Noble Audio). Would be interested in looking into custom again in future but only when it is possible to circumvent the hack of getting an ear mold done at an audiologist and shipping it overseas.

Particularly interested in what they are doing with in-house kits like the one from Ultimate Ears and, even better, the 3D scanning process shown at CES a few years back and already in use through the likes of 64 Audio.

Unfortunately neither option seem to be available in third-world SA.

Offline canman1971

Re: In-Ear-HeadPhones and IEMs - For the Converted
« Reply #14 on: August 22, 2018, 07:01:18 PM »
Not sure if i want to go custom molds, way too deep.