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Offline Winslow

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Negative remarks on sales threads
« on: July 07, 2018, 01:11:42 PM »
I have noticed for some while that there are remarks passed about equipment on sales threads, that put the said item in a negative light.

Any person who has passed the 50 post limit can put any thing up for sale he or she chooses and is entitled to ask whatever price they want.

Adding your opinion on a sales thread about anything that reflects the item in a negative light just seems to be a rather egotistical exercise.
If you think this or that about the item that might reflect it in a negative light, or have an opinion that something else might be a better bet;  keep it to your self.  That is just your opinion and yours alone;  it has nothing positive to add to the sale of the item.  If the price seems high in your estimation keep that to yourself, it is a free market.  If you feel it is a bargain, them by all means help the sale along.

If you have an input that is positive from direct experience;  not a borrowed opinion dragged up from all the rubbish people post on other forums then feel free to post it, if it will help the sale along.

If you are genuinely interested in the item and there are no pics then express your interest and ask for pics, the "pics might help" remark does not help.

Adding input trying to sell something else on a sales thread is just not on, I have noticed this happening from time to time.
If you have something for sale that you think is better then put it up for sale on its own thread, do not hi-jack another's sales thread.

People are free to research something themselves to check opinions and prices, and then decide whether an item is something they want.


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I read so much that I disagree with from my direct experience on all of the forums.  These second hand passed on personal opinions of others soon become audio gospel;  I.E. Fake News.
If you have direct and personal experience with a piece of equipment post it,
After all this is not an objective hobby, no matter how hard people try to make it so.  It is purely subjective, messing around with it for over 50 years has at least taught me that.  It is all in the ear of the listener and their personal experience of their emotional connection with the music.

Please this is just my opinion on the above.  Let us try and keep this forum a pleasant and ethical experience for everyone.
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Offline Steerpike

Re: Negative remarks on sales threads
« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2018, 02:41:58 PM »
I agree with all you say, except I have a comment on this....

After all this is not an objective hobby, no matter how hard people try to make it so.  It is purely subjective,

When people blatantly contradict science, maths or physics, there should be correction made. The engineering theory behind music reproduction can be quite complicated - especially digital signal processing, which requires around 4 years of university level maths to fully 'get'. But that's no excuse for making stuff up to fill in a lack of understanding - admittedly that is much more common on overseas(*) sites than here.

* - I heard a wonderful comment on a TV show last night - a very correct British gentleman, (this not a verbatim quote but my best memory):
"She is trying so hard to show she isn't a bimbo, that she has a brain. And she does have a brain, but it's an American brain"

« Last Edit: July 07, 2018, 02:46:44 PM by Steerpike »

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Re: Negative remarks on sales threads
« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2018, 04:44:13 PM »
Yep, only sometimes subjective not all the time, especially if it can be measured.

Otherwise if you can't say something nice, try harder.

Offline rodga

Re: Negative remarks on sales threads
« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2018, 06:31:04 PM »
I don't agree with the op. Either no opinions should be allowed or they must take the good with the bad.



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Re: Negative remarks on sales threads
« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2018, 08:57:54 AM »
What annoys me (although I bite my tongue) is to see a product advertised way above its new price, with the comment "you wouldn't be able to buy this today for this price".  Still, its buyer beware and the haste to say "I'll take it" soon becomes tempered when you look at another classified advert site and realise the realistic price
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Offline zer0

Re: Negative remarks on sales threads
« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2018, 11:06:15 AM »
I don't agree with the op. Either no opinions should be allowed or they must take the good with the bad.
My first opportunity to use the like button ;D

I have to agree with rodga.
If you have the same product and you think it's great then it's okay to say so, but if you think it falls short in some categories then you should keep it to yourself? If you don't want questions or opinions on your advert, ask people to communicate via pm and ask a mod to lock the post.
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Offline PaganMcLoud

Re: Negative remarks on sales threads
« Reply #6 on: July 27, 2018, 05:10:24 PM »
A sales thread is no place for your opinions, good or bad.   The seller does not need your help in shifting the item.  It's totally fine to leave a comment about the ad itself, but NOT THE ITEM imo.  If u really MUST comment, then state facts, and not your opinion, no matter how good your intention.  There are plenty other places on the forum for your opinion.  Somebody else's SALE thread is not 1 of them. It's quite disrespectful, and it just happens way too often imo. 
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Offline rodga

Re: Negative remarks on sales threads
« Reply #7 on: July 27, 2018, 05:40:31 PM »
A sales thread is no place for your opinions, good or bad.   The seller does not need your help in shifting the item.  It's totally fine to leave a comment about the ad itself, but NOT THE ITEM imo.  If u really MUST comment, then state facts, and not your opinion, no matter how good your intention.  There are plenty other places on the forum for your opinion.  Somebody else's SALE thread is not 1 of them. It's quite disrespectful, and it just happens way too often imo.
There are platforms available that allow you to sell your goods without getting any opinions.

For some price discussions are a no. I don't mind them, perhaps it's better to keep to pm.

The thing I can't stand most about some sellers is when they say "no low balling". (don't think I've come across it much on this forum though) What exactly is a low ball offer? 10%,90%,50%? Everyone values items on a different scale. Some sellers won't even reply if you make an offer, which is wrong imo. I  always reply and rather tell the guy I'm not willing to go lower than x at this time. So if you don't want offers, maybe stick to Gumtree/olx/etc

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Offline zer0

Re: Negative remarks on sales threads
« Reply #8 on: July 27, 2018, 06:54:16 PM »
A sales thread is no place for your opinions, good or bad.
Yes it is. It's a place for both.
I browsed through the classifieds now and of the +/- 10 ads I looked at, 8 had comments. All were in good spirit, even the ones that were off topic.
It's part of the forum and it should remain this way.

Online Andile

Re: Negative remarks on sales threads
« Reply #9 on: July 29, 2018, 08:01:11 PM »
I ignore all negative posts on my for sale thread, and I always specify that "please pm me if interested " that's very important to me to filter all these commentators with a lot of negative comments to say.

Offline King_Julian_S

Re: Negative remarks on sales threads
« Reply #10 on: July 29, 2018, 08:38:03 PM »
If you donít like something for sale and not going to buy it go read another post..
If you really think the seller is quoting it incorrect info then PM him...
if he is misleading people intentionally or a con then advise the mods ... also in PM ..
unless maybe a potential buyer asks something specific on the thread and u have practical input through use of the item( i.e. an opinion )
why else comment on a for sale item you are not interested in ? Just plain ..,, (I.e. negative comments) ...


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