Author Topic: A sneak peak listen to the new Bentley Acoustics series in development.  (Read 1184 times)

Offline Trompie67

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Imaging is also affected by the off-axis response (how the speaker interacts with adjacent objects). The amplifier has no role in this. However, I usually take what anyone says about imaging with a pinch of salt, because it is not only subjective, but also depends on the nature of the source material (i.e., the recording).

I'd still classify that as placement surely?

Or, will 2 different speakers have a different imaging effect even if all else remains the same? So in the exact same position, same room, same amplifier & matched gain level, same source material. So all that changes is the speakers & I will therefore hear a greater (or lesser) stereo effect?
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placement will enhance it but in this case i tried to get a near flat phase response. this as a start does gives a better imaging than a speaker that does not have the same phase response.

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here you have two, two way speakers.

first one with flat phase response gives a more holographic imaging than the second one irrespective of FR

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I'd still classify that as placement surely?

Or, will 2 different speakers have a different imaging effect even if all else remains the same? So in the exact same position, same room, same amplifier & matched gain level, same source material. So all that changes is the speakers & I will therefore hear a greater (or lesser) stereo effect?

in my experience every speaker i tried with the same amplifier has a different imaging effect - as an example between my Cambridge Audio Aero 6 and Tannoy Mercury MX1 - with certain recordings the Aero's project to almost 2 metres past the speakers and in the same room with the same amp at similar volume levels the Tannoys struggle to make the same track project to more than 10 centimetres past the speakers (this is not unexpected since the speakers are in different price categories as well as sizes and also in different performance categories) but yep i agree with Shonver it has a lot to do with on-axis and off-axis responses

again just my experience whilst others may differ .... just also want to point out that this experience isnt limited to just the two pairs of speakers mentioned above since i have tried more speakers in the same room with the same amplifier (not always in millimeter identical placement though since the placement .... and toe-in depended a lot on the size of the speakers) and some had better imaging than others



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Stunning, thank you all. I have learnt from this!

Will play over the weekend with different sets of bookshelves in the lounge - as much as is possible without a perfectly controlled environment anyhow!

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As impressive as the 100s are the 200s really fall into a different bracket. They are more detailed, more clear without being bright, better vocals and with more controlled bass. If I can describe it as "More detailed bass".
Obviously the finished product will have better spacing etc .
For example, When you listen to the 683 they sound amazing then you hook up the Jamo c97 and the 683 almost sounds a little muffled, then you hook up the fs120 and the Jamos seem muffled. So you think to yourself that these can't really get much better. Then you connect the 200s and all of a sudden you are in a different league. Yes pricing league also but this way people can appreciate why some speakers are more expensive than others and what a big difference different drivers and cabinets and crossovers really make.
Once again anyone who would like to hear them please give me a call I'll gladly assist.