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Offline Dreamerm6

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The start of a great journey..
« on: January 26, 2018, 02:56:22 PM »
Hi all,

About 6 Months ago I embarked on mission impossible, how do I build a speaker good enough to compete with some of the best out there without breaking the bank.
Where do I start? What drivers, cabinets,, nevermind the crossover..
I searched and researched all the forums day and night for about a month, flew in a whole lot of different speakers from parts-express, tested & tried some pre made XO's.. Nothing worked well together.

Finally I decided to go with HIVI M-series drivers and Tymphany tweeters and after carefull consideration and recommondation decided to use one of our best crossover/speaker builders, Rudi Marloth.
I remember the day Rudi replied to my email and said : "sure I can help you, come over lets discuss it and see what you need"
Best decision ever! This Rudi aka RUDS is the most helpful and pleasent guy in the industry! He showed me stuff and explained things about speakers
I never knew! So enthusiastic and passionate, hell if I think back about it, I think he was more excited than me!

Anyway, week one we plan the cabinet sizes and driver layout, bracings, crossover - 2-way, 2.5 way 3 -way etc.
In the meantime I had some cabinets made, just rough ones to do the initail testing on, ordered a shieze load of coils and caps for Rudi to start the crossover develpment.
A week or so later after the cabinets were completed I took it to Rudi so that crossover development can start,
2 days after I delivered the first set of speaker boxes (FS110 - 2.5 way) Rudi gave me call, "we have a problem" he said.. Ag nee F@K - went through my mind!
Whats wrong Rudi? I asked... They sound too good!!! - he replied! WHAT??!!

I jumped into my car and went to Rudis place! He already had them hooked up and started playing me tunes!! WOW!! I couldnt believe the sound that came from these little guys!
I remeber thinking - Sh#t, I hope they dont sound too good because these are the entry level of the floorstanders!! Should we detune them? NO!! The next one (FS120 - 6" 3 way) sounded even better,
and when Rudi phoned me after the develpment of the FS120 and told me: "this last one im going to make something special" I knew I was in for a treat! The final floorstander was completed (FS150 - 8" 3 way),
a monster standing 1.25meters tall, double 8" wooders, 5" mid and Peerless tweeter blew me away! 6 months later and IT STILL DOES!

After that we tackled the bookshelfs and centre! Even the little bookshelfs outperform some serious floorstanding speakers!

So after long trial and error, finding the right people to build the cabinets, vinyls, faceplates etc we managed to pull off something epic!
I will have all of the speakers on display and demo for all enthusiasts to listen to :
1) FR100 - 5" bookshelf
2) FS110 - 6" floorstanding
3) FS120 - 6" Floorstanding
4) FS150 - 8" Floorstanding
5) FC150 - Centre speaker

Come and join Rudi and myself for some good whiskey and Gin while we celebrate and play away at the all new proudly South african speakers - BENTLEY ACOUSTICS.
RSVP me direct at Vaughan@quza.co.za to reserve your spot, we can unfortunately only cater for X amount of people.
DATE TO BE ANNOUNCED!

Some pics: Available here : https://www.facebook.com/Bentleyspeaker/














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Re: The start of a great journey..
« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2018, 02:56:50 PM »
Thank you RUDI!! You are the best!!

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Re: The start of a great journey..
« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2018, 03:26:36 PM »
What was the design goals?

Is there performance specs like impedance and sensitivity for all models, are they tube/fly friendly?


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Re: The start of a great journey..
« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2018, 03:34:26 PM »
They look like 1000000 bucks. Best of luck with your venture!
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Re: The start of a great journey..
« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2018, 03:34:50 PM »
Shew - stunning looking! Congrats! :notworthy:

..and the price point for that size and quality speaker is incredibly competitive I think..

https://www.audiocorponline.co.za/product/bentley-acoustics-fs150-speakers/
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Re: The start of a great journey..
« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2018, 03:38:02 PM »
ooohhhh dear... ANOTHER yellow/orange cone!   ;D

Seriously- WELL DONE!  and best of luck!

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Re: The start of a great journey..
« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2018, 03:39:52 PM »
What was the design goals?

Is there performance specs like impedance and sensitivity for all models, are they tube/fly friendly?

I aimed to build a speaker which sound better than for instance SONUS FABER PRINCIPIA 7 OR b&w 683 S2 , JAMO C97, KEF Q700/900 OR KLIPSCH r28 OR polk s60. So I bought a set of each and Rudi and myself compared and listened to which sounded the best and then made these sound better but at a quarter of the price. So basically the aim was to get a speaker out there which easily compares or better than competition but which is AFFORDABLE.

Rudi is the technical guy but here is what I have:

FR100 - 100w 6ohm 89db - 55hz to 20000hz
FS110 - 140w 6ohm 89db - 45hz to 20000hz - 15kg (200W x 262D x 850H)
FS120 - 160w 6ohm - 89db 35hz to 20000hz - 22kg (200W x 312D x 1000H)
FS150 - 180w 6ohm - 89db 25hz to 20000hz - 33kg (245W x 362D x 1200H)

We did compare them to some of the best and the sound that come out of these babies are phenomenal.
 
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Re: The start of a great journey..
« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2018, 03:40:42 PM »
ooohhhh dear... ANOTHER yellow/orange cone!   ;D

Seriously- WELL DONE!  and best of luck!

Thank you, rose gold cones :D

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Re: The start of a great journey..
« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2018, 03:41:12 PM »
They look like 1000000 bucks. Best of luck with your venture!

Thank you!!

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Re: The start of a great journey..
« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2018, 03:53:24 PM »
Shew - stunning looking! Congrats! :notworthy:

..and the price point for that size and quality speaker is incredibly competitive I think..

https://www.audiocorponline.co.za/product/bentley-acoustics-fs150-speakers/

Yeah thank you so much, that is for the complete 5 speaker package, I Think the FS150 on its on is R12990 Bookshelfs R3990 Cetre R3990 and they will give you less 10%. But there will be some serious promotions when we have to official launch. This same package should be available at a limited time for around R 14900.

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Re: The start of a great journey..
« Reply #10 on: January 26, 2018, 03:58:59 PM »
Sjoe, those do look good.

Is that 20k for the whole package, front's, surrounds and center?

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Re: The start of a great journey..
« Reply #11 on: January 26, 2018, 04:17:45 PM »
Thank you RUDI!! You are the best!!
thank you very much. been a pleasure developing them

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Re: The start of a great journey..
« Reply #12 on: January 26, 2018, 04:20:28 PM »
The look awesome, love the photography too.

Wishing you and Rudi everything of the best... :2thumbs:

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Re: The start of a great journey..
« Reply #13 on: January 26, 2018, 04:22:29 PM »
Sjoe, those do look good.

Is that 20k for the whole package, front's, surrounds and center?

Yes, but will be R13900 on promotion for the first few weeks, all 5 speakers, will upload centre speaker next week, also a serious monster!

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Re: The start of a great journey..
« Reply #14 on: January 26, 2018, 04:24:18 PM »
Yes, but will be R13900 on promotion for the first few weeks, all 5 speakers, will upload centre speaker next week, also a serious monster!

WOW, I may just purchase a set.

Can you tell us the rest of the details? Which drivers, tweeter etc were used? Cross sections of the cabinets?