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Offline itscraig

cleaning records by hand
« on: December 21, 2017, 06:01:13 PM »
on two occasions i have cleaned records with solution and a brush, both times the record is no longer usable afterwards due to the snap crackle and pop.
both were new records that i thought should rather be cleaned before being played.
two questions arise from this.
 1. will the records be ok after a proper machine clean?
 2. what would cause this?

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Re: cleaning records by hand
« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2017, 06:19:32 PM »
I have the same issue. What fluid are you using?
I made up the Isoprop etc brew. I can't get hold of the last ingredient (to be added a few drops per) :nfi:
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Re: cleaning records by hand
« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2017, 06:40:52 PM »
I use Croak solution and either a. Microfiber cloth then a distilled rinse on new records (just to remove any film that may be there) or b. Wood Goat plus Croak plus microfiber or vacuum if really dirty plus distilled rinse.  Not had any issues with New though.
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Re: cleaning records by hand
« Reply #3 on: December 21, 2017, 06:56:34 PM »
Get Croak Audio fluid, the very important part is the wetting agent, should be one that does not leave any residue in formof solid content.
Then the brush, natural "hair" goats etc, not nylon, causes static build up.

In the beginning I did cleaning with a cut paint brush and sunlight liquid and rinse and dry, pop and crackle so I stopped cleaning for a while till I got all the right ingredients to make my own fluid properly.

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Re: cleaning records by hand
« Reply #4 on: December 21, 2017, 07:36:31 PM »

 1. will the records be ok after a proper machine clean?



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Re: cleaning records by hand
« Reply #5 on: December 21, 2017, 07:54:53 PM »

Bring them and we will find out.
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Re: cleaning records by hand
« Reply #6 on: December 21, 2017, 08:12:00 PM »
both times the record is no longer usable afterwards due to the snap crackle and pop.
both were new records that i thought should rather be cleaned before being played.

Did you listen to the records prior to washing them?
Maybe pressing issue?


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Re: cleaning records by hand
« Reply #7 on: December 21, 2017, 08:19:47 PM »
Please let us know the outcome.

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Re: cleaning records by hand
« Reply #8 on: December 21, 2017, 08:29:16 PM »
Just clarifying, I donít usually wet clean new records, do when they are NOS (the plastic sleeves may have dropped some gunk on) and always run an antistat brush over.  If there is a bit of click itís usually static so a wee surface clean does the job.
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Re: cleaning records by hand
« Reply #9 on: December 21, 2017, 09:35:49 PM »
I do use Croak fluid, goat brush, but never rinsed?
perhaps that could be the problem.

i will try washing them in the machine and then see.

thank you for all the offers.

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Re: cleaning records by hand
« Reply #10 on: December 21, 2017, 09:42:54 PM »
This will probably go down like a lead balloon but try washing the fluid off by running water from a tap (gently now!) then the distilled water rinse and microfiber cloth to remove excess.  It will make sure all cleaning fluid is gone and the distilled water rinse will remove any water detriment (in Durban we have no problems with lime scale)
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Re: cleaning records by hand
« Reply #11 on: December 25, 2017, 11:53:22 AM »
Feedback,

After cleaning the records on a machine they sound ok, not without any snap crackle and pop, but better.
I tried the hand wash again, this time with a forward and backwards motion, then rinsed the record. Now it works ok.
More manual labour than the machine but it works.

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Re: cleaning records by hand
« Reply #12 on: March 09, 2018, 10:13:24 AM »
I bought this item from eBay and used the recipe and it works great..

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Ilford-ilfotol-with-recipe-for-Best-Vinyl-Record-Cleaning-Solution-10ml-for-2-LT-/122955509814?hash=item1ca0b83036

my advice is its worth a try.

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Re: cleaning records by hand
« Reply #13 on: March 09, 2018, 04:06:38 PM »
Has anybody tried out the fluid supplied with the Spin-Clean? I have bought one of these but have not had opportunity to try it out so far. In a few weeks' time, after we have settled down in the Strand, is the soonest I shall be able to do my first batch. Shall post my findings on this forum, in case anybody might be interested.
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Re: cleaning records by hand
« Reply #14 on: March 09, 2018, 07:05:30 PM »
The spin clean fluid is ok.  The magic is in the fact that it is a flocculant used in a bath.







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