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Maybe a crazy question but do you guys think there is a place for one more speaker line in SA and if so which brand would you like to see on our shores?
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High efficiency speakers are rare in SA.

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Well I still think the IAG brands (Wharfedale, Castle, Quad, Mission) deliver the best value for money that can be found commercially. Locally we have very limited lines available and therefore no real support. The new Quads and Wharfedales look sublime.







They have a habit of being priced very aggressively and have a lovely smooth tone. Honestly have always been my best value for money purchases in Hi-Fi

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Agreed, Quad and Wharfedale are both missed and play in the range that most audiophiles can afford.

Problem is, these days most items can be important directly form somewhere. If I buy something locally I want proper backup and support in exchange for my hard earned money. I also want representation in the major centers. If you are in Gauteng and operate out of there, I may just as well go to the trouble to do a direct import if I cannot demo the product somewhere locally in the Western Cape (and I can count the "proper" hifi shops on my one hand here in CPT). If it breaks I must still box it up and entrust it to the courier to return it, the trouble and the risk is about par irrespective if it goes to Jhb or Europe. I just upgraded my Devialet from a D120 to D220PRO and I can tell you that the round trip from Cape Town to France and back was quicker than many items I sent to Jhb and back.

Most local agents get a decent discount from the manufacturer, so if a portion of that it is not passed on to the consumer, direct imports will grow in volume. Look at Schiit etc .....




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I'd love to see more proper hi-fi (not studio) active speakers.

As an aside, agree 100% that the ability to audition is mandatory. My pet hate is when importers get exclusive distribution  rights yet refuse to carry stock. And if they do it's a quarter of the range and everything else becomes "special order" only.

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I agree with the IAG brands but when they are discounted like they have been on takealot etc people lose faith in them. Currently the whaferdalr 240 floor floor stander is R7300 on takealot. I challenge anyone to show me a better or similar new speaker for anywhere near that.


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High efficiency speakers are rare in SA.

Zu Audio would be fantastic :groovy:

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Spatial open-baffle speakers. From $1695.
Designer is ex Emerald Physics.

"Unlike the Emerald Physics designs of yore, the Hologram series are completely passive. Dispensing with external crossover units is central to Shaw’s aim at the more mainstream buyer."

www.spatialaudio.us

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http://www.digitalaudioreview.net/2016/04/spatial-audio-factory-tour-hologram-m4-review/

https://stevefolberg.wordpress.com/2016/02/16/world-premiere-review-the-spatial-hologram-m4/


Interesting but not sure about these shores.  (Oppo?)


"Do check out this YouTube video by New Record Day, where Shaw talks about the several-years-long process of co-developing the Hologram drivers with Eminence, as well as his vision of driving down costs and selling direct to the customer so as to create an affordable, “mass produced” [by high end audio standards] loudspeaker"



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Zu Audio would be fantastic :groovy:


Don't Zu also go with the direct marketing model?


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Re: Is there place for one more loudspeaker line in SA and if yes, which brand?
« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2017, 06:30:26 AM »
Well I still think the IAG brands (Wharfedale, Castle, Quad, Mission) deliver the best value for money that can be found commercially. Locally we have very limited lines available and therefore no real support. The new Quads and Wharfedales look sublime.







They have a habit of being priced very aggressively and have a lovely smooth tone. Honestly have always been my best value for money purchases in Hi-Fi

I could not agree more :mates:



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Re: Is there place for one more loudspeaker line in SA and if yes, which brand?
« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2017, 06:50:55 AM »
A pair of Zu Druid's in full cry changed my perspective of what a speaker can do forever. Makes a 16watt SET amp sound like a huge power amp. Yet it also works beautifully with big SS amps. 16 ohm. 101 dB. Serves as reference speakers for a number of reviewers.

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Re: Is there place for one more loudspeaker line in SA and if yes, which brand?
« Reply #12 on: February 18, 2017, 10:08:37 AM »
From my experience there seems to be a very big gap locally between the rubbish sold at Makro, Game and Hifi Corruption and the entry level systems from B&W, NAD, Monitor Audio etc. If we want this industry to grow we need to catch them when they young and hook them on early.

My first proper system was a Yamaha HTiB I bought from Hifi Corruption for a steal. I then slowly added Wharfedale Diamond 9's to the mix and hey presto I had a decent system in two years. I was in High School so obviously funds were limited but the ability to go a major shopping complex and listen and see these products alongside the rubbish systems made me understand the benefits and strive to keep upgrading. Currently the only shop offering this sort of thing (on a much smaller scale) is Dion Wired, but their selection is too limited to show the average consumer what else there is.

If you go to America, Europe and so on you find the large chain stores selling the entry level B&W, MA, Kef and so on to the average member of public. Currently I cant even think of recommending a decent normal system for friends under R10k, and even then I have to send them to some specialist store where they feel intimidated by the high ticket items and prices. People want to feel like they getting something special for their money, but going to HFX and buying a pair of B&W 686 s2 for R8k will feel like you cheaped out. If you bought it from Dion Wired for instance it would be one of the more expensive systems and people feel like they got something special (albeit in a much less sophisticated environment).

Very few people care enough about the electronics in their house to go to specialist stores hiding in far off places, they decide one day they want a Blu Ray player and go to the nearest centre to get one.

If we could get in some decent quality components for very good value we could grow this industry and that in turn would make space for some more high end offerings. Like them or hate them but Hifi Corp and the like (some 15 years ago) helped push more audio awareness to the general public than almost any of the HiFi retailers out there now.

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Re: Is there place for one more loudspeaker line in SA and if yes, which brand?
« Reply #13 on: February 18, 2017, 10:14:20 AM »
What do you guys think of the following options:
1)Epos
2Highland Audio
3)Vienna Acoustics



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Re: Is there place for one more loudspeaker line in SA and if yes, which brand?
« Reply #14 on: February 18, 2017, 10:32:30 AM »
Love #3. Have fond memories listening to the Hayden and Bach models.