Poll

Which of the Red and White wines do you prefer?

Pinot Noir
2 (4.5%)
Merlot
7 (15.9%)
Cabernet Sauvignon
6 (13.6%)
Shiraz
6 (13.6%)
Malbec
1 (2.3%)
Pinotage
7 (15.9%)
GlŁhwein (ein Witz)
2 (4.5%)
Chardonnay
4 (9.1%)
Sauvignon Blanc
5 (11.4%)
Riesling
1 (2.3%)
Blanc de noir (A.K.A. "Blank de Naar")
0 (0%)
Chenin Blanc
3 (6.8%)

Total Members Voted: 13

Voting closed: November 06, 2016, 12:50:47 PM

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Offline Larry

Wine
« Reply #120 on: May 07, 2019, 08:50:56 PM »
Epic meal at Rust and Vrede this afternoon.

For those who havenít been there, they have two things on the menu.

A brilliant piece of sirloin, chips and salad

A brilliant piece of salmon, baby potatoes and salad


This brilliant white (although, anecdotally maybe not as good as some previous)



And the fantastic and ever present


« Last Edit: May 07, 2019, 08:53:27 PM by Larry »

Offline santoshlv426

Re: Wine
« Reply #121 on: May 09, 2019, 08:19:17 AM »
Rust En Vrede (Red's) are way out-priced compared to the other local wines.
Last I had Rust En Vrede was 15 years ago. The cheapest bottle at Makro is R310.

Offline BJ

Re: Wine
« Reply #122 on: May 09, 2019, 09:49:38 AM »
Rust En Vrede (Red's) are way out-priced compared to the other local wines.
Last I had Rust En Vrede was 15 years ago. The cheapest bottle at Makro is R310.

Santos....Santos, my brother🙈🙈

I can feel your pain....you have been waiting for 15 years for a moment like this....

You should put this to RUST now and have some VREDE   :point:
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Offline Larry

Re: Wine
« Reply #123 on: May 09, 2019, 10:08:50 AM »
Rust En Vrede (Red's) are way out-priced compared to the other local wines.
Last I had Rust En Vrede was 15 years ago. The cheapest bottle at Makro is R310.

Great wine - and I wasn't paying.....  ;D

Further to that, their wine (like most in SA) has changed visibly over the years.

Wine, like audio equipment is subjective and value based.

For example (based on a previous thread), I like Champagne.....a lot.  But I would any day of the week buy a decent bottle of Rust en Vrede Estate red for a few hundred rand,  over some non vintage forgettable Champagne at at least the same price.

Oh yeah - then try and buy a bottle of European red wine at the same level of quality.....
« Last Edit: May 09, 2019, 10:35:48 AM by Larry »

Offline santoshlv426

Re: Wine
« Reply #124 on: May 09, 2019, 03:16:55 PM »
Howzit BJ, Larry.
Guy's I agree with you 100%. I'd LOVE to have a bottle of Rust en Vrede and during my wine buying days, I dabbled with the Spier's, Nederberg's and just could not justify the cost of R&V. It's indeed for special occasions only.

It's been a long time since I've had a really good wine. Currently, I have the Rupert Rothschild 2015 in my fridge (yet to be opened) and this will be followed by a KWV Shiraz (also yet to be opened).

Let me rekindle the pleasure of a good red with these two and then perhaps I'll get a bottle of R&V to commemorate something special. It better be good as the R&V is double the price of the Rupert Rothschild.

Faced with an average Champagne or a mediocre overseas Red, I'll go for a local win anytime. One of my favorite's is still the Nederberg Barone which doesn't surprise being a blend of my two favorite grapes - Cab Sav and Shiraz

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Re: Wine
« Reply #125 on: May 09, 2019, 04:10:34 PM »
Some nice wines suggested... Thanks

I have a soft spot for Thelema's wine. Since their amazing 1997 Sauvignon Black, that became my benchmark for SB's together with Cloudy Bay in NZ, I have been a fan of the wines from this estate.

Maybe, I must also link it with some audio that informs my sentiment because Gyles Webb bought some equipment from Serge and me, a Pathos Logos and a set of ProAc response 3.8s if I remember correctly. The man loves music, classical music and as far as I remember he also loved the Quads Esl speakers which he used for ages 

Cheers, now sipping a Tokara 2017 SBlanc.

Offline BJ

Re: Wine
« Reply #126 on: May 19, 2019, 02:36:03 PM »
Typical Cape Weather on the West Coast this weekend. Misty outside with a Chilly Breeze.

Perfect for a good Red.

Missus about to serve Leg of Lamb, that's been in the oven since 08h00 this morning

Man.....Good to be back home

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Offline Larry

Re: Wine
« Reply #127 on: May 19, 2019, 04:52:29 PM »
^^^^ - good plan.

Spierís wines have improved so much, and that is a very pleasant wine now.

Offline Larry

Re: Wine
« Reply #128 on: May 19, 2019, 04:57:58 PM »
Now Iím drinking and oddity today called Rabbit Spaghetti.

Itís Syrah driven and the name is derived from the common meal that Italian POWs weíre eating in Australia at the end of WWII.

It comes from the Clare Valley where they worked, the wine recognizes that Australian wine benefited from those men being there and providing labour.


I was going to drink it with my Lamb Loin Chops, but HoHum, fire is taking so long....

(Capitalization is in recognition of my deification of Lamb Loin Chops.... )




Offline BJ

Re: Wine
« Reply #129 on: May 19, 2019, 05:34:48 PM »
Now Iím drinking and oddity today called Rabbit Spaghetti.

Itís Syrah driven and the name is derived from the common meal that Italian POWs weíre eating in Australia at the end of WWII.

It comes from the Clare Valley where they worked, the wine recognizes that Australian wine benefited from those men being there and providing labour.


I was going to drink it with my Lamb Loin Chops, but HoHum, fire is taking so long....

(Capitalization is in recognition of my deification of Lamb Loin Chops.... )



Never been to Aus.......would LUV to visit some of their Wine Regions.....

What is the verdict on the Rabbit, or are you still chasing it😊😉
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Offline Larry

Re: Wine
« Reply #130 on: May 19, 2019, 06:03:45 PM »
Iím a lucky guy, my Australian brother in law is a wine lover.  So when my sister comes to visit my mum each year we do a wine trade.

Iíve really enjoyed this one, itís a light, easy drinking but still satisfying Syrah.  My fav thus far has been an outrageously priced Penfolds Single Barrel Syrah and a Clare valley Cabernet Sauvignon from an estate I can no longer recall.

Their wines are remarkably like SA wine (new world), but I would suggest a touch more sophisticated.

In my brain - Barossa Valley is rock star Syrah, and Clare Valley is rock star Cabernet, but honestly Iím no expert in Oz wine.

Offline BJ

Re: Wine
« Reply #131 on: May 20, 2019, 07:06:17 PM »
Some of the Best Chardonnay I have tasted came from Aus...

Still have this in the Cellar......waiting for a memorable moment to happen



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Offline BJ

Re: Wine
« Reply #132 on: May 20, 2019, 07:14:03 PM »
But tonight it is Round 2 with the Leg of Lamb....

I know, I know.....my eating habits

And to help me through the meal....Orchestra
the Mentor Series from KWV

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Offline Larry

Re: Wine
« Reply #133 on: May 20, 2019, 09:00:38 PM »
Very nice...


You and I suffer the same food problem, I was eating cheese and charcuterie at the Lanzerac while nursing a (admittedly mediocre) bottle pinotage with some colleagues.


Offline BJ

Re: Wine
« Reply #134 on: May 27, 2019, 06:09:08 PM »
Celebrating the arrival of the New Baby Maggie......The LRS(Little Ribbon Speaker.)
Fresh out the Box....Over the Moon with this....

Yes, I am enjoying both

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