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Re: Members' Kit pics
« Reply #6525 on: July 10, 2018, 10:08:09 PM »
Upgrade completed .....

Out with the B1's and in with the B1 Decades.







And the difference in sound?

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Re: Members' Kit pics
« Reply #6526 on: July 11, 2018, 06:50:00 AM »
And the difference in sound?

It took me the entire last Sunday to crate up the B1's and uncrate the B1D's so listening was limited to testing and very initial placement.
I'll spend more time this weekend and will do a more comprehensive write up then.
Initial listening identified 2 very immediate differences. Firstly the bass on the B1D's is simply massive. It has much more impact and weight than the B1's. Secondly the treble is much improved. It has more sparkle and conveys a bit more fine detail. Unfortunately my living room where the speakers are now is acoustically very poor. I've already converted a spare garage into a home cinema and I'm running out of space. I'm considering my options to move the system to another room and have initiated early discussions with the boss.
Physically the speakers are gorgeous. I simply love the red. It is a deep red, not a cheap red - the photos do not do it justice. The new magnetic grills are also miles ahead of the old grills that the B1's had (which was really a sub standard design).

I upgraded the Devialet's firmware last night to the version that was newly released yesterday. This still remains the most impressive piece of technology that I have ever had the pleasure of laying my grubby paws on. Initially the French company battled to get the software sorted, they hired a team of software experts who got it going quite quickly. Streaming over wifi is absolutely rock solid and the integration with Roon is simply a pleasure to use - more so if you add Tidal to Roon. I'm now comfortable to say that this has reached the point where it just cannot get any better, simpler and faster. This is the ultimate in digital music streaming. If you have spare cash, is in the market for a new amp and have outgrown the concept of romance (read: valves  :sh1tstirrer:) then buy yourself a Devialet.
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Re: Members' Kit pics
« Reply #6527 on: July 11, 2018, 08:05:44 AM »
Having heard the Decades powered by a Devialet at Mervin' s place, I can concur with your initial findings. The bass floored me,rock solid with plenty of weight/slam and there seemed to be an added level of detail that I had not heard on the B1s. Brilliant speakers

Superb set up Drifter and congrats man  :2thumbs:
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Re: Members' Kit pics
« Reply #6528 on: July 11, 2018, 08:50:00 AM »
Nice.  How does the LS50 sound as a center speaker?

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Re: Members' Kit pics
« Reply #6529 on: July 11, 2018, 03:13:46 PM »
Thanks guys.

I'm pretty much satisfied with my system right now :) For the first time in my life, I have the same centre speaker as my mains ... and now I have a 'wall' of sound in the front.

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Re: Members' Kit pics
« Reply #6530 on: July 16, 2018, 10:15:52 AM »


Please give your impression moving from the B1’s to Decades.

And the difference in sound?

So I managed to spend quite some time over the weekend with set up. I used to have each B1 on a granite plinth to remove them off the wooden floor to some extent. With the Decades I’m almost convinced there is an ever so slightly increased time alignment slant compared the B1’s. Even my wife noticed it and after unpacking the speakers indicated that the speakers seem to be “leaning back” more than the B1’s. I can’t find any literature on it and have made a mental note to ask Philip Guttentag about this next time I chat to him.

As the granite plinths are quite high, the increased height together with the perceived slant lifted the Decades’ tweeters to a level that I was not happy with the position when seated in the normal listening spot. I therefore removed the plinths and initially had the speakers directly on the floor on the little hard rubber feet they came with. As mentioned in my previous post, the bass on the Decades differ from the B1 and more listening on Friday night confirmed that it is quite a substantial change.  I cycled through various speaker positions and toe-ins and ended up with the Vivid recommended position where the speakers cross directly in front of the listener’s face.

On Saturday morning I sourced some floor protectors and changed the rubber feet for the spikes with lots of help from the wife. I got my electronic measuring device out and spent a few hours carefully measuring out distances between the speakers, distance from the rear wall, toe-in degrees as well as cross over points in front of the listening position. The introduction of the spikes made a massive difference. It cleaned up the already improved bass. The first thing that I noticed was the impact of the hammer on bass kick drums on tracks that I know very well. This is something that never stood out before.  I’m sure that the redesigned bass port plays quite a significant role here. The B1’s created lots of air and on drum heavy tracks I could feel the wind escaping from the bass ports, on the Decades the bass ports are much “quieter”.

The upper frequencies are also more refined and fine details more apparent. Jackson Brown’s Unplugged Vol 1 is a great close microphone recording and the sliding of his hands over the guitar as they change position is quite pronounced. My room is still not perfect but the Decades’ interaction with the room is lot less than that of the B1’s, mostly due to the very controlled bass produced by the Decades and secondly completely decoupling the speakers from the floor.

Are they worth the asking price – hell yes.