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Hammer vs Jet

2 month old Hammer A331 @ R5k more
1 (100%)
New Jet JPT 260
0 (0%)

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Author Topic: Woodworking machinery  (Read 20563 times)

Offline Skylark

Re: Woodworking machinery
« Reply #15 on: July 18, 2014, 12:50:18 AM »
The Makita version of the Rs E2 gives the pins and needles, not pleasant.
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Offline Gerhard

Re: Woodworking machinery
« Reply #16 on: July 18, 2014, 06:35:09 PM »
Hi Guys,

Is Hardware Centre in Randburg open on Saturdays?

Offline GECO

Re: Woodworking machinery
« Reply #17 on: July 18, 2014, 06:36:13 PM »
Very much so

Offline Gerhard

Re: Woodworking machinery
« Reply #18 on: July 18, 2014, 10:26:45 PM »
 :rubhands:

Offline oradba69

Re: Woodworking machinery
« Reply #19 on: July 19, 2014, 07:40:34 AM »
:rubhands:
Enjoy, that place is my candy store with some very expensive sweeties.
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Offline Gerhard

Re: Woodworking machinery
« Reply #20 on: July 19, 2014, 08:23:04 AM »
I am just going to look around today, see what's there etc. I'll buy a later when I know what I want and where I'm gonna put everything. I am going to spend quite a bit so I have to be sure...

Offline Gerhard

Re: Woodworking machinery
« Reply #21 on: July 21, 2014, 10:05:29 AM »
My first purchase is done:

http://www.boschtools.com/Products/Tools/Pages/BoschProductDetail.aspx?pid=GCM12SD
http://www.boschtools.com/Products/Tools/Pages/BoschProductDetail.aspx?pid=GTA3800

Thanks Ian!  :dop: I see what you mean with the mechanism.

 ;D

I met a guy there (can't remember his name - I SUCK at that :-[) who doesn't work for the store but apparently he is there every Saturday and seems very knowledgeable - who reckoned that the JET JTS-600 is not a good all rounder and that the JET DeLuxe X ACTA (http://www.jettools.com/us/en/p/deluxe-xacta-saw-3hp-1ph-50-rip/708675PK) is a better choice. And for about R6k more you can get the Powermatic PM2000 (http://www.powermatic.com/Products.aspx?Part=1792000K) - the Rolls Royce (their words). I would REALLY HATE it if I spent >R26k on a saw to find out that it can do this or that or it has issues with certain things. I am not aware of any such issues, but I'd rather spend the extra money (nearly double :'( ) and know I will never have any issues with the machine. The PM2000 has a Biesmeyer type fence, integrated casters, wide cut width (you can extend the table also) so it certainly does everything the JTS-600 can do and more. If there is one machine that you should not skimp on it is the table saw. It is the work horse in the shop. There will probably not be a job that I would not use the table saw but there will be plenty where I would not even switch on the planer or thicknesser.

Secondly, I am having second thoughts about the JET JPT-260 (http://www.axminster.co.uk/jet-jpt-260-planer-thicknesser) planer/thicknesser. Things I don't like about this (type) machine:

  • It is a combination machine so it is a PITA to adjust the machine every time you want to use the other function - even though this model makes the process much easier than others
  • The in/out feed tables are short
  • Thickness width is limited to 256mm

I was thinking that perhaps I could get 2 machines for the same price roughly that address all the above issues:

http://www.adendorff.co.za/ProductDetails.aspx?id=546 - I can't tell if this one's tables are longer than the Jet's but this just an example.
http://www.adendorff.co.za/ProductDetails.aspx?id=544 - this thing can plane >500mm and weighs 375kg! It looks like a tank!

I have not seen either of the machines above but I will certainly check them out. I have the space for separate machines and I would really like the extra capacity/ease of use they offer.

What do you guys think?

Offline oradba69

Re: Woodworking machinery
« Reply #22 on: July 21, 2014, 10:29:52 AM »
Gerhard,
congrats on your purchases.
On the thicknesser planer the switching is not an issue at all. The width may be an issue even though I have never encountered it.
I will never ever buy any machine from Adendorfs again. I think they are rubbish. Bought an oscillating belt sander and it is my least favourite machine. Should have waited saved up a bit more and bought the Jet equivalant.
On the tablesaw it is a personal choice between you (and maybe you bank manager)  ;)
I got the 10" prosaw (R19000) and plan to add one of these to it in future.
http://www.incra.com/product_tsf_lsts.htm

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Offline Gerhard

Re: Woodworking machinery
« Reply #23 on: July 21, 2014, 11:00:53 AM »
Thanks Louis. I am hesitant with the Ardendorff stuff for that very reason. I should perhaps get that idea out of my head unless someone can vouch for the machines I listed.

I haven't ruled out the JPT-260. I am just wondering if I could address the issues I listed with separate machines without spend much more.

Offline Abu

Re: Woodworking machinery
« Reply #24 on: July 21, 2014, 02:13:08 PM »

Offline JimGore

Re: Woodworking machinery
« Reply #25 on: July 21, 2014, 02:15:25 PM »
I would second the feeling regarding Ardendorf machines. Even if you could rebuild them such that they perform well, then where will you find parts if something breaks or need replacing?

As for the Jet thicknesses / planer, yes it is width limited, but I have never needed to plane down any single piece of wood wider than 260mm so it's a non issue for me. Jet do make a bigger version of the same thing if you truly need wider, etc. Simple indeed / out feed tables are very easy to set up if you are worried about it that kind of thing. I have never needed to do that on my side either, but needs differ. Fortunately the solution is simple and inexpensive,

As for constant adjusting in the machine - there is no adjusting to be done. For the planer function, it has a depth adjustment and the thicknesses has a thickness adjustment. These 2 things are separate and do not influence each other in any way so there really isn't any fiddling you need to do or worry about.

Ian.

Offline Gerhard

Re: Woodworking machinery
« Reply #26 on: July 21, 2014, 02:25:55 PM »
With adjusting I mean you have to "convert" the machine from a planer into a thicknesser by lifting the plaining table and flipping the dust collector over - and reversing again to get back to a planer.

I agree with the overall sentiment though. It is just too much money to gamble on machinery from Adendorff. When I spend that kind of dough I want to be 100% confident.

I am going to pop in at Passetti's and Pretoria Tool Centre today just to see what they've got. No harm in knowing what's on offer.

Offline Henry

Re: Woodworking machinery
« Reply #27 on: July 21, 2014, 02:35:40 PM »

Offline Skylark

Re: Woodworking machinery
« Reply #28 on: July 21, 2014, 03:26:38 PM »

http://www.incra.com/product_tsf_lsts.htm

My father hats the Incra jig for router, it is incredibly precise and makes setup and getting what you want first time a breeze.
Once you start using one and realise it's capabilities the possibilities really open up.
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Offline Gerhard

Re: Woodworking machinery
« Reply #29 on: July 21, 2014, 05:53:27 PM »
It does look impressive! Where do you get these in SA and what do they cost - the table saw fence?