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Offline naughty

a few n00b vinyl questions
« on: September 17, 2011, 05:46:11 AM »
okay - i am comparatively a vinyl n00b - the last few turntables that i worked with are the Technics SL1200 models because i used to be a club DJ - since i gave up the clubbing i have not used turntables at all - prior to that i used to use a few but i was by no means an audiophile in my youth so it was more for recording from vinyl to tapedeck

so I have a friend who has an L&G turntable and doing some research on this i have found that its manufactured from Luxman - the guy has purchased a decent set of speakers and due to his old amp giving up the ghost he has decided to get an AVR to allow him to get the best out of his sources which include DVD players and DSTV HD so HDMI is a bit of an advantage - he isnt interested in adding a phono stage so he is selecting an AVR with built in phono capabilities

the problem is that most AVR's with phono capability only handle MM and will still need an independent phono stage for MC - so the thing is given that his cartridge is described as a VM model we have a few questions and hope someone can help

1) is it worth keeping this turntable ie is it decent enough given he isnt by any means an audiophile but he does value decent sound with an emphasis on great tonal range rather than concentrating on all fussy audiophiley considerations (though having these would obviously be a bonus)

2) if this VM type cartridge which seems to be some type of Audio Technica patent is an MM cartridge - will it work with a typical MM phono stage - or will something else be required .... then are these types of cartridge and stylus still available anywhere in the Gauteng area - if so where? If he is able to service the turntable so that it works perfectly can he just add a more modern MM cartrige to the tonearm thats there right now?

3) who near the Roodepoort area is the vinyl specialist to see - ie someone who can service the turntable and probably get it into really decent shape to carry on working properly ie make sure it has the right type of cartridges etc and a decent new stylus that doesnt cost an arm and a leg

4) would it be better to just scrap that idea and get some sort of newish entry level turntable like a moonbeam SOTA and probably some type of new cartridge and stylus from a brand like Ortofon or if someone can suggest something thats a decent budget solution ..... bearing in mind we dont really have to have absolute audiophile performance so a Koetsu Jade Platinum would definitely be out of place  ;)


Offline handsome

Re: a few n00b vinyl questions
« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2011, 09:08:30 AM »
if you prepared to go the newish route you will have the least headaches as most new turntables at entry level come with cartridges and are set up.

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Re: a few n00b vinyl questions
« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2011, 09:39:01 PM »
I am in JHB north, not too far from Roodies. However, I tend to be cautious of obsolete older turntables that dont work. If you are a twiddler, prepared to make stuff yourself and buy bits of ebay etc it can be fun. However, if you dont have the skills to maintain the deck and must have someone else do it you would be best of with something current. That does not mean new or even young but it does mean something from Project, Rega or Thorens for eg for which parts are reasonably available.

If the deck works, perhaps fit a modern cartridge for which styli are around and enjoy.
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Re: a few n00b vinyl questions
« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2011, 09:53:17 PM »
if he is going to use a AVR and not interested in a separate phono stage then MC shouldn't even be considered, MM will be more than enough and he will get the most that the AVR can handle (the AVR will be the weak link) better to get something that works well than trying to fix a skedonk, you will be throwing good money after bad unless the skedonk is a collectors piece.

talk to Hi-Phibian. he might even have a nice rega floating about that would suit your friends needs perfectly.

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Re: a few n00b vinyl questions
« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2011, 10:01:24 PM »
VM seems to be the same output as a typical MM cartridge.
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Re: a few n00b vinyl questions
« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2011, 10:09:52 PM »
thanks for the replies gents - i think he is the original owner of the turntable for around 20 years or so - im sure its working perfectly but probably just needs a new cartridge and stylus - so obviously it would be an advantage if he can see someone in his area who can sort this out for him

Hi-Phibian - if you can actually PM me your cell number (or any contact number) i will get him to call you and you can advise him directly but i will get him to read this thread as well and let him decide how to proceed from here - if the turntable does need a new stylus and cartridge and if its just an MM type will any cartridge fir onto this arm or will it require something else to be done/added?

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Re: a few n00b vinyl questions
« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2011, 10:16:46 PM »

 - if the turntable does need a new stylus and cartridge and if its just an MM type will any cartridge fir onto this arm or will it require something else to be done/added?

If it has two screws on top, about 12mm apart it is the very standard 1/2"  mount. (95% of TTs use that)
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