Author Topic: AVSA - Listening Session Part 2...?  (Read 5076 times)

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AVSA - Listening Session Part 2...?
« on: May 04, 2011, 06:06:08 pm »
The last session (AVSA Cable listening session), was very good/informative/fun - and ended up with a few ideas on how the next session can be held.
Some very good suggestions came through, and i was wondering if this is still in the pipeline?  :)

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Re: AVSA - Listening Session Part 2...?
« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2011, 07:17:43 pm »
The last session (AVSA Cable listening session), was very good/informative/fun - and ended up with a few ideas on how the next session can be held.
Some very good suggestions came through, and i was wondering if this is still in the pipeline?  :)

Hi, yes, it is. Just having one or two problems our side that have left us slightly off-balance at the moment, but we hope to get stabilised ASAP, after which we'll be sending out invites again.  ;)
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« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2011, 11:45:22 pm »
We filled in forms with the previous session, but I did not notice results being shown afterwards. What happened to those?
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« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2011, 08:43:58 am »
We filled in forms with the previous session, but I did not notice results being shown afterwards. What happened to those?

You'd have to ask Joel about that, Ampdog.
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« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2011, 11:33:15 am »
Hi, yes, it is. Just having one or two problems our side that have left us slightly off-balance at the moment, but we hope to get stabilised ASAP, after which we'll be sending out invites again.  ;)
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Sure thing - just wanted to check... it'll be great for sure.


We filled in forms with the previous session, but I did not notice results being shown afterwards. What happened to those?

If memory serves, Joel said the completed forms were not enough to be statistically worthwhile, though they indicated that the attendees could hear the difference between the two cables. I stand to be corrected though....
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« Reply #5 on: May 05, 2011, 12:02:58 pm »
The forms were only used for our own personal purposes and weren't handed back to Joel.  It was just to make notes as we go along for ourselves on the aspect we hear, etc.
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« Reply #6 on: May 07, 2011, 10:49:47 pm »
Last two posts,

Yes .... OK. I handed my form back and noticed a few others given in. I was under the impression that the figures were going to be revealed, even though not being statistically relevant.

But then with all respect, a pronouncement that attendees could hear a difference in an exercise deemed not to be statistically worthwhile, would be misleading as such. I don't wish to belabour this now nor bore members (apart from being OT), and will only remind of the previously quoted (by me) experiment we did at the CSIR regarding the tossing of a coin - I will assume that most have read it. There it could have been concluded that some of us were clearly clairvoiant (6 out of 6 outcomes predicted correctly in succession, more than once ....??). Yet, such a conclusion would have been  incorrect, as borne out by an experiment which was statistically meaningful.

But from my side, let's leave it at that. Have to go and finish an article for AVSA .....
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Re: AVSA - Listening Session Part 2...?
« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2011, 09:10:24 pm »
Have to go and finish an article for AVSA .....

Not to sound forward, or disrespectful - but was this article ever finished?  :)
Am always keen to read a few words of wisdom from om Ampdog - Always so enlighting.

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Or charge him - with making a Reference Amp for AVSA - or me?  :) (hahahaha)....

Maybe it'l inspire me to be a scienctist - and make my own amps....  ;)
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Re: AVSA - Listening Session Part 2...?
« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2011, 01:03:37 am »
Let me save Andrew's face - alas not yet completed. (Guys this bloomin' winter 'flu in the cold dry weather up here ....)

To be serious, there are two going. The initial one started on how our hearing interprets musical sounds. But a quick search done on internet revealed more than 40 very relevant research articles, apart from a host more (let those purporting with high stand that 'we' do not know how the ear works, notice).

At present I am working on a synopsis of how stereo works which will be a summary of several articles in Stereophile and other magazines over the past 30 years. A number of things there on e.g. imaging that is probably less known......

I am hunting my forum topics for a thread about 2 years ago where I asked what kind of topics would raise interest .... Nigel Hesk has done pretty well covering some of those.
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« Reply #9 on: June 24, 2011, 08:18:40 am »

At present I am working on a synopsis of how stereo works which will be a summary of several articles in Stereophile and other magazines over the past 30 years. A number of things there on e.g. imaging that is probably less known......


That sounds like a very interesting article.  8)

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Re: AVSA - Listening Session Part 2...?
« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2011, 09:50:05 am »
Andrew and Joel, I am not sure what cables were tested in the first session, but would be very interested to know if the honourable members can hear/see any differences between power cables. Would it be possible to include a few power cables in the second listening session? Yeah, I know this is controversial. However, there are people who firmly believe that power cables make a difference.

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« Reply #11 on: June 24, 2011, 02:37:56 pm »
Could consider that. Why not be controversial.


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« Reply #12 on: June 24, 2011, 02:44:58 pm »
Andrew and Joel, I am not sure what cables were tested in the first session, but would be very interested to know if the honourable members can hear/see any differences between power cables. Would it be possible to include a few power cables in the second listening session? Yeah, I know this is controversial. However, there are people who firmly believe that power cables make a difference.

you should read the mag a bit more often buddy  ;) our intrepid reviewers have no problems spouting adjectives about R10 000.00 power cables.

a double blind listening test with some forum members on some brand name cables would make for an AWESOME article. controversial sells magazines, do they not?
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« Reply #13 on: June 24, 2011, 03:18:48 pm »
Could consider that. Why not be controversial.

Thanks Joel.

you should read the mag a bit more often buddy  ;) our intrepid reviewers have no problems spouting adjectives about R10 000.00 power cables. a double blind listening test with some forum members on some brand name cables would make for an AWESOME article. controversial sells magazines, do they not?

I read every copy of AVSA, but endeavoured to be diplomatic.

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« Reply #14 on: June 24, 2011, 03:28:22 pm »
you should read the mag a bit more often buddy  ;) our intrepid reviewers have no problems spouting adjectives about R10 000.00 power cables.

a double blind listening test with some forum members on some brand name cables would make for an AWESOME article. controversial sells magazines, do they not?

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