Author Topic: The great cable debate  (Read 11449 times)

skinnyfat

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Re: The great cable debate
« Reply #30 on: October 01, 2007, 10:32:10 am »
Will you be advertising them on our Classifieds again? ;D ;D ;D ;D



And they call ME the stirrer ;D ;D

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Re: The great cable debate
« Reply #31 on: October 01, 2007, 10:32:58 am »
Agreed, but this cable should be constructed from standard materials and based on sound and well understood principles. Boutique and flavour of the month composites should not be flaunted as the reason for the improvement, but the fact that the manufacturer used technically accepted methods to create results should be submitted as support.
Agreed again, but you don't need a R5k cable to achieve that. This can be done for very little, even considering mid-man markups.

Hi Gert

Fully agreed. I don't think you need much more than three mains rated wires, with the live and neutral twisted tightly together and the earth running parallel. All encased in a good braid connected to the earth wire. Sometimes a good mains filter may help to solve a problem, but that should have been included in the equipment in the first place.

Unfortunately useful design features are often combined with unnecessary cost inflating features. Call that male jewelery if you want except you can't carry that around like an expensive camera. I think after market power cables are even more overpriced than interconnect and speaker wires. Joe Soap is often sold snake oil, hype and inflated expectations.

Interestingly, a good percentage of after market power cable market consists of re-branded / re-packaged product made by a certain Belgian based OEM, re-priced to insane levels. This OEM manufacturer primarily serves the medical and hi-reliability industry and many audio power cables come from their catalogue with just the packaging and printing as well as the colour of the molded parts changed to look more sexy. Sometimes gold plating is added. I'll try and find a link (lost that due to a PC crash).

I guess I got a bit absorbed in technical talk and did not state my position on pricing and fruitless construction features clearly.

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Re: The great cable debate
« Reply #32 on: October 01, 2007, 12:05:55 pm »
Hehe, no problem,

I fully understood your post, but the non-technical members might have got the wrong idea so
i just wanted to clarify that.

Do you know the Belgian manufacturer? I'm in Brussels now, so maybe I'll bring a bunch of the OEM stuff in with when I come back. Rebrand the cable to something like 'Hennies Choice' and make millions. I can see it now... ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Re: The great cable debate
« Reply #33 on: October 01, 2007, 02:15:23 pm »
Do you know the Belgian manufacturer? I'm in Brussels now, so maybe I'll bring a bunch of the OEM stuff in with when I come back. Rebrand the cable to something like 'Hennies Choice' and make millions. I can see it now... ;D ;D ;D ;D

I'll spend some more time to look  for it. "Hennie's Millennium Signature Gold" will do nicely. Thanks for the idea. Now excuse me I want to concentrate on the design of my CD de- :-[ device.

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Re: The great cable debate
« Reply #34 on: October 01, 2007, 02:19:56 pm »
I'll spend some more time to look  for it. "Hennie's Millennium Signature Gold" will do nicely. Thanks for the idea. Now excuse me I want to concentrate on the design of my CD de-?????? device.

Will you also be marketing these on our Classifieds? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Re: The great cable debate
« Reply #35 on: October 01, 2007, 02:23:08 pm »
Will you also be marketing these on our Classifieds? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

ROFLMFAO!  ;D ;D ;D C'mon now, hehe! Poor GD...

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Re: The great cable debate
« Reply #36 on: October 01, 2007, 02:28:10 pm »
ROFLMFAO!  ;D ;D ;D C'mon now, hehe! Poor GD...

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Re: The great cable debate
« Reply #37 on: October 01, 2007, 04:42:06 pm »
ROFLMFAO!  ;D ;D ;D C'mon now, hehe! Poor GD...


Whahahah !!! maybe he'll sell more XLR's to get a CD burn-in device. Oh wait, make that a Vinyl burn in device - the oven !!! ;D ;D ;D

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Re: The great cable debate
« Reply #38 on: October 01, 2007, 06:21:20 pm »
 ;D ;D ;D I'm gonna stay out of this one...

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Re: The great cable debate
« Reply #39 on: October 02, 2007, 08:31:15 am »
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Oh wait, make that a Vinyl burn in device - the oven !!!


Drum roll please.....


Ladies and ladies - here it is! The new and improved LP Cooker! With satin stainless steel finish. 1500 Watts of cooking power! Get those LPs cooked to a golden crisp!!

See attachment for product image...


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Re: The great cable debate
« Reply #40 on: October 02, 2007, 08:33:30 am »


Drum roll please.....


Ladies and ladies - here it is! The new and improved LP Cooker! With satin stainless steel finish. 1500 Watts of cooking power! Get those LPs cooked to a golden crisp!!

See attachment for product image...



ROTFLMAO  ;D ;D ;D ;D Eye of The Tiger nogal! Roll on Rocky ;D
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Re: The great cable debate
« Reply #41 on: October 02, 2007, 08:38:17 am »
Whahahahah !!!! that one deserves to get BURNT

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Re: The great cable debate
« Reply #42 on: October 02, 2007, 09:32:25 am »
All you old cable lovers, take on this challenge...  :

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/calling-bullshit/james-randi-offers-1-million-if-audiophiles-can-prove-7250-speaker-cables-are-better-305549.php

If I paid $7250 for cables I would hang myself with them if they did not sound like "dancin'".

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Re: The great cable debate
« Reply #43 on: October 02, 2007, 09:41:10 am »
Damn proxy server  >:(, will check when I get home, this looks very interesting indeed ! ;D
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Re: The great cable debate
« Reply #44 on: October 02, 2007, 12:08:37 pm »
Oh...the objectivist amongst objectivists takes on the cable debate ... This is quite something.

**chuckles**

Are we throwing the snake oil salespeople into the same pot as other recipients of his $1million award? That is some...er...not so nice company.