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Unsolicted SMSs - does Vodacom sell its customer database?
« on: April 06, 2011, 05:54:39 pm »
Don't know about others but I'm getting an inordinate amount of unsolicited SMSs offering all and sundry from co's I've never heard of.  The circumstances are particularly fishy and lead me to believe that Vodacom either sell their customer database or Vodacom employees do so for personal gain.  For context: my wife and I use different surnames; until 2009 I'd lived abroad for over a decade; I have no accounts with anyone - even municipal accounts are in my better half's name.  The only exception is a Vodacom mobile contract.  Here's what's happened:

  • I recently reached the annuity date of a 2 year contract with Vodacom and terminated rather than renewed
  • Prior to cancellation I received some sms spam, but not at the volumes currently being experienced
  • I retained my number on a prepaid basis for a few weeks whilst shopping around and realising that Vodacom and MTN are equally pathetic even when dealing with corporate accounts.  During this time I received no unsolicited SMSs
  • Choosing the devil I know, I resigned with Vodacom and kept my number.  No sooner was I back on contract than the unsolicited SMSs were back and the volume is now around 10-15 messages a day including ungodly hours of the evening
  • Thinking through their business model, there's little incentive for them not to sell their database - they collect revenue from the DB sale to the broker, then if they're lucky from the spammer SMSing you, and then if they're really lucky from you when you send 15 SMSs daily to opt out of the unsolicited messages

Today, after receiving 3 messages inside of a minute I picked up the phone and called the responsible company - Direct Axis - some CT loanshark outfit operating under the guise of making personal loans (of course to people they know cannot afford it).  I speak with their marketing manager tell them I want out and ask them where they got my number.  The give me the name and number of an outfit called Black Moon.  I call the pricks, ask where they got my details and they put the phone down.  I call again and explain nicely that I'm going to get to the bottom of this with or without them and that the question is quite simple - either Vodacom's selling it to them or they're obtaining it illegally from Vodacom employees.  Either way I'm happy to take it directly to Vodacom and implicate their organisation in the process.  Now suddenly I have their attention and they claim they don't know the source offhand but would look into their records and get back to me, as well as remove me from their database.  Very eager to be cooperative...

Of course they won't call back, and at best I'm off their database for a while anyhow.  So, before I take it up directly with Vodacom, can anyone shed some light on whether Vodacom do in fact sell their customer database?
« Last Edit: April 06, 2011, 06:11:44 pm by audiomuze »
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Re: Unsolicted SMSs - does Vodacom sell its customer database?
« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2011, 06:11:02 pm »
I get many of these SMS's which state, please send SMS with STOP to opt-out... I will just delete and let them send often to their expense.

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Re: Unsolicted SMSs - does Vodacom sell its customer database?
« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2011, 06:14:31 pm »
Have you ever Googled your phone number? You are in for a surprise I can guarantee you!
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Re: Unsolicted SMSs - does Vodacom sell its customer database?
« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2011, 06:23:38 pm »
Have you ever Googled your phone number? You are in for a surprise I can guarantee you!
Just did - six hits, none of any relevance, correlation or connection to me - basically USA reverse phone lookup services.
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Re: Unsolicted SMSs - does Vodacom sell its customer database?
« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2011, 06:42:57 pm »
I put a complaint on Hellopeter about Direct Axis marketing spam and a friendly customer consultant gave me a call and removed my details from their marketing list. Will see how long this lasts, but at least they were pleasant to deal with...

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Re: Unsolicted SMSs - does Vodacom sell its customer database?
« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2011, 06:52:05 pm »
This is not a Vodacom problem.I am with MTN and Direct Axis offered me a loan today.Taking into account the Insurance SMS I have received this week probably about 4 SMS's in total.I just delete the SMS.Will Google my number now.
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Re: Unsolicted SMSs - does Vodacom sell its customer database?
« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2011, 07:04:03 pm »
Okay I have done a Google search. Apart from "legitimate" possible contacts this websight looked the best for  possible numbers been handed out.Start sending SMS's guys or guess my number.
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Re: Unsolicted SMSs - does Vodacom sell its customer database?
« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2011, 07:05:53 pm »
http://wtfcalls.co.uk/833/26/2
Sorry forgot the website address
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Re: Unsolicted SMSs - does Vodacom sell its customer database?
« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2011, 08:28:30 pm »
Is it possibly a specific supplier? Eg nashuamobile?

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« Reply #9 on: April 06, 2011, 08:32:58 pm »
Is it possibly a specific supplier? Eg nashuamobile?

You know my story with outsurance
Nope, my contract was signed directly through their enterprise sales - no store/ 3rd party involved.  Don't know what happened re outsurance - could you point me to the thread?
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Re: Unsolicted SMSs - does Vodacom sell its customer database?
« Reply #10 on: April 06, 2011, 08:35:22 pm »
since I Rica'd I have been receiving the unsolicted SMS's ,I wonder how secure the  Rica database is  ?
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« Reply #11 on: April 06, 2011, 08:45:05 pm »
since I Rica'd I have been receiving the unsolicted SMS's ,I wonder how secure the  Rica database is  ?
I've not yet bothered, but I'm willing to bet it's definitely not secure.
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Re: Unsolicted SMSs - does Vodacom sell its customer database?
« Reply #12 on: April 06, 2011, 09:26:43 pm »
Add your details to the Opt-Out list on www.dmasa.org

The amount of calls and SMS's should be reduced to about 10% after that.


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Re: Unsolicted SMSs - does Vodacom sell its customer database?
« Reply #13 on: April 06, 2011, 09:34:22 pm »
OUCH!

I guess I'm fortunate then. But not looking forward to 'join-the-club', - thanks Maxxis for that hint.
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Re: Unsolicted SMSs - does Vodacom sell its customer database?
« Reply #14 on: April 06, 2011, 11:52:27 pm »
I've not yet bothered, but I'm willing to bet it's definitely not secure.

Absolutely! I also have term contracts with Vodacom and get my upgrades directly from them as well as these spam sms's but not so many as the OP mentioned. There are other places which demand your mobile number such as Telkom and SAPO. Could be them too.

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