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alternativeroute

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Lip Sync problems...
« on: September 09, 2010, 10:16:22 pm »
So this is my Moms set-up....


The problem I am having setting up the TV for my mom is that the Lip Sync is out with the satellite receiver... Mother reckons its out with the DVD too - I don't see it...

Any ideas?

Irritations...

There are only two sources being used. Is there no way to disable all the other multitude of sources so that pressing the source button (on the remote) a person does not have to cycle through so many options... I have looked through (the rather sparse) manual and not found anything.
A fly out menu comes out when you press the same source button... It switches the source but the menu doesn't fly back (retract) without pressing the enter key (many buttons away from the source key)... Thus making a simple cycle from source1 to source2 a multi-button operation...


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Re: Lip Sync problems...
« Reply #1 on: September 09, 2010, 11:25:15 pm »

    [slight hijack]
    What does she get to see on this? I assume it's Free-To-Air stuff?
    Picture quality? Comparable to SD DSTV?
    Cost?
    [/hijack off]
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    Re: Lip Sync problems...
    « Reply #2 on: September 10, 2010, 12:17:00 am »
      [slight hijack]
      What does she get to see on this? I assume it's Free-To-Air stuff?
      Picture quality? Comparable to SD DSTV?
      Cost?
      [/hijack off]

      Picture quality is pretty shocking... I do not have DSTV (or a TV at home for that matter) so I cannot really compare...

      What do'ye'get?

      • TV1, TV2, TV3 - used to get ETV but sentech and Etv are in a non-loving stage at the moment...
      • French news channel (In English) - not too bad, loads of repeats but then also some great feature programming with a more cultural bend.
      • The sensational(ist) SkyTV - by far the best picture of the lot... They cut away from the human devastation and floods in Pakistan to tell us about Tiger Wood's divorce  ::)
      • A whole lotta Christian TV channels
      • Some radio channels - I am listening to Classic FM as I tap away here (a nice rendition of Beethoven's 9th is playing)

      [Religion on]
      The religious programming ranges from the good common sense speakers to the really wacky dude who sells holy water... Loads are selling something. Whether it be a Book or a DVD or something... The commodification of Jesus. That is not to say its all insincere.
      [Religion off]

      That said it is 100% free[/list]
      « Last Edit: September 10, 2010, 12:19:12 am by alternativeroute »

      KenMasters

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      Re: Lip Sync problems...
      « Reply #3 on: September 10, 2010, 07:37:11 am »
      I'd imagine the sound is more out of sync due to the component input. More processing involved in getting the image on screen and so lags further than HDMI.

      To explain, flat panels all have certain amount of input lag, how much they lag between input and display depends from panel to panel. There's a certain threshold at which delay is noticeable, cross it by only a few milliseconds and something like your lip-sync issue becomes obvious.

      When you use an HDMI connection you're sending a digital signal to a digital TV and so each pixel already has it's predetermined position, quick and easy for the TV to upscale (which still adds a modicum of delay on top of what the panel already introduces). But feed it an analogue signal and it will have to go through the process of converting it to digital, then assigning each pixel and then upscaling, which increases delay even further.

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      Re: Lip Sync problems...
      « Reply #4 on: September 10, 2010, 08:23:08 am »
      To explain, flat panels all have certain amount of input lag, how much they lag between input and display depends from panel to panel. There's a certain threshold at which delay is noticeable, cross it by only a few milliseconds and something like your lip-sync issue becomes obvious.

      Thanks for the response. Is there any kind of fix for the problem?

      I have trawled through the manual and the only time they mention the possibility to address lip-synch is if you use the SPDIF output to a receiver... Then there is the possibility to use time delay between 0ms and 250ms

      Otherwise I cannot see anything....

      Does anyone know if the Sentech satellite and the DSTV satellite are the same one? Can two decoders use the same satellite dish?

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      Re: Lip Sync problems...
      « Reply #5 on: September 10, 2010, 10:07:22 am »
      Thanks for the response. Is there any kind of fix for the problem?

      I looked through the Digistar's manual as well, I didn't see any mention of a delay setting and I doubt there is one. The Digistar looks as though it was intended for use with a CRT rather than a flat panel.

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      Re: Lip Sync problems...
      « Reply #6 on: September 12, 2010, 10:31:57 pm »
      So I clicked here and clicked there through all the sub menus (on the satellite decoder)... Frustrated I went for the restart fix...

      Voila. Lips now match sound... Why a restart would fix it I am not too sure...

      BTW. Found Tetris in the sub menus...  ::) Rather addictive

      ps. a minor irritation with the samsung is that does not seem t have a 'match source' type setting for the aspect ratio (with component input)... It would be nice if the unit could sense if the programming is 4:3 or 16:9