Author Topic: TV Calibration  (Read 395 times)

joel

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TV Calibration
« on: September 06, 2010, 10:56:57 am »
I get to calibrate TV's quite often and the more processing the manufacturers throw in, the more difficult it gets.

This is particularly so when you have some kind of contrast "enhancement" features that cant be disabled.

The test patterns I use have typically been designed to fool the TV's into not artificially altering (for want of a better word) contrast, and this means you get good theoretical black and white level settings.

Unfortunately when watching real video the processing kicks in to make dark scenes darker, so you loose detail, and the same happens in bright scenes. This means that there has to be a fair bit of after calibration tweaking to ensure that you get to see all you want to.
Fortunately colour balance isn't too affected but all this automated altering of settings does make a mockery of any Gamma curve, or setting that you may select during calibration.

I'm not saying that you shouldn't calibrate, you absolutely should, as the difference in the overall viewing experience is often quite big, I'm just saying that there is a difference between theoretically perfect and practically perfect.

I for one would for example give up a little bit of contrast for colour neutrality, and decent colour tracking.

KenMasters

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Re: TV Calibration
« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2010, 11:09:33 am »
Yip, I'm guessing you're refering to your attempts at calibrating the C9000? Unfortunately all the 2010 Samsung LED sets have undefeatable dynamic dimming.
« Last Edit: September 06, 2010, 11:32:55 am by KenMasters »

joel

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Re: TV Calibration
« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2010, 11:14:55 am »
Not just the 9000, quite a few TV's have dynamic this and that, and trying to figure out why all yous settings have changed can be a little irritating.

Typically I find that the more enhancements I can disable the better.
Did Mr Masters get the CIE chart?

KenMasters

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Re: TV Calibration
« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2010, 11:35:31 am »
Did Mr Masters get the CIE chart?

Yes, thank you very much, appreciated.

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Re: TV Calibration
« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2010, 11:48:14 am »
Hey guys thanks for all the display calibration threads... I am helping to buy a TV for my mother this week and setting it up for her. These threads are going to be useful.

I work with Graphic design and my printer tells me what colour profile to use...For web I use sRgb as it's the most widely used profile...

Is it not time that Display, DVD, Satellite and other vendors started using a similar standards system to make it easier for Joe Shmoe like myself to get it right..

Also wouldn't a 'spider' type calibration tool be useful for AV display calibration?

Something like this: http://www.datacolor.eu/en/products/monitor-calibration/spyder3elite/index.html





BTW. My old CRT monitors were much easier to calibrate using a software tool like Adobe gamma... Takes ages of tinkering now trying get around all the monitor 'enhancements'...
« Last Edit: September 06, 2010, 11:50:25 am by alternativeroute »

KenMasters

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Re: TV Calibration
« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2010, 11:55:51 am »
Is it not time that Display, DVD, Satellite and other vendors started using a similar standards system to make it easier for Joe Shmoe like myself to get it right..

Also wouldn't a 'spider' type calibration tool be useful for AV display calibration?

They do, there is a standard for SDTV called REC 601 and a standard for HDTV called REC 709. All programming, DVDs, BDs etc. follow these standards (or should).

You can use a Spyder but they aren't considered the most accurate meters. For the enthusiast the most reliable entry level meters are the Eye1 and ColorMunki. ColorMunki only works with paid software however whereas you can use the Eye1 with the free HCFR calibration software.