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Re: A headphone amp for the not so thrifty
« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2007, 12:57:33 am »
OK.
As a junior member I am supposed to still learn 8) ...and I will set the example. :) :)

I have had it with these expensive headphone amplifiers.  >:( (The price of this one was not quoted but I can imagine by the looks.) Will someone kindly broaden my horizons and inform me why a headphone, requiring no more than the lofty output power of say 1 - 2W (unless you are so deaf that you should really be going to a live performance and lip-read the performers and their instruments), should require an electronic driving device, the more exotic models of which cost more than some quite decent stereo power amps ?? Is this even worse than cables?

I saw some circuits on other forums capable of some tens of watts, and someone even suggested that now that we have digital chips, those could be used to keep the size down (guess it was an oversight not to also mention keeping the heat down). I am delusional enough to still simply just use my main amp. - with a suitable output attenuator to get slightly away from the bottom 10% of the volume control (I switch the loudspeakers out). I can also understand that that might sometimes not be an option and a separate unit might be desired. But apart from that I see no reason why the simplest of decent low power circuits could not be used. From what I know about headphones (cheap and high-end) they are usually around 25 - 100 ohm impedance, etc. I have Sennheisers and they sound perfectly good this way, as do a number of other well-known brands.

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Re: A headphone amp for the not so thrifty
« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2007, 07:31:23 pm »
Off-topic. Couldn't resist making a new user group specially for Ampdog :)

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Re: A headphone amp for the not so thrifty
« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2007, 07:55:14 am »
Off-topic. Couldn't resist making a new user group specially for Ampdog :)

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Re: A headphone amp for the not so thrifty
« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2007, 12:34:35 am »
Off-topic. Couldn't resist making a new user group specially for Ampdog :)

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Re: A headphone amp for the not so thrifty
« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2007, 09:54:31 am »
We'll have to sort something out for that :)

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Re: A headphone amp for the not so thrifty
« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2007, 01:51:44 am »
Gee, guys, I really enjoy being a 5-star general, and even more to have hi-jacked the thread. :) :)

But to go back: Does anybody here have experience of any headphone amplifier, why are they used except to have separate control for headphone volume perhaps for monitoring purposes, and what advantages if any are there for a price that will cover quite a few CDs?
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Re: A headphone amp for the not so thrifty
« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2007, 09:07:47 am »
I think the idea was that with a separate headphone amplifier it is easier as well as cheaper to do a class-a amplification and to use the best quality components than with a power amp. Unfortunately I think, these money making #$%@#, have seen a gap in the market, just like with cables, to milk some suckers from their cash. Even with the best components and pure class-A amplifification, I can not see how a tipical price of say R9k could be justified for a headphone amp. ???

But thats just my 2c woth....  ;D ;)
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Re: A headphone amp for the not so thrifty
« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2007, 01:33:54 am »
Probably dead-right, Norval.

But distortion at that amplitude (unless you're so deaf ...etc.) is immaterial with normal techniques. I have never measured, but I get deafening sound from a few volt over, in my case, 32 ohm.

R9K? I believe I have seen them advertised at $4K. Enclosure like an army tank ......
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Re: A headphone amp for the not so thrifty
« Reply #9 on: September 17, 2007, 10:08:52 am »
Now this is a headphone amp!!


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Re: A headphone amp for the not so thrifty
« Reply #10 on: October 03, 2007, 11:35:03 pm »
Going from various ways of listening to cans to a headphone amp made a very big improvement and made headphones more listenable.
A simple op amp circuit (though less suitable for cans under say 50 ohms) like the Chi Moi amps already sounds far more open end less fuzzy then an attenuated "speaker" amp. Sadly, as with phono stages, a lot of the boodle ends up in the case on commercial product, add to that the specialist nature small volume and prices rise high quickly..