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Re: Golden Era of audio/Hi-Fi.
« Reply #45 on: June 29, 2010, 09:52:13 am »
Now all we need is a campfire on 4th beach and some - er - Boeries! (Ja OK Alphabet, some of that too.)

Yeesh! This talk about campfires on 4th beach do stir up some VERY fond memories and not of the HiFi kind ;D When you are around 20, have had some "beverages" and have some nubile company who insist on skinny dipping, the water is not THAT cold ;D
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« Reply #46 on: June 29, 2010, 10:14:44 am »
Yeesh! This talk about campfires on 4th beach do stir up some VERY fond memories and not of the HiFi kind ;D When you are around 20, have had some "beverages" and have some nubile company who insist on skinny dipping, the water is not THAT cold ;D

Agreed. Everything needs to be placed in its correct context. Some things are worth cold water, lol.

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« Reply #47 on: June 29, 2010, 11:42:08 am »
"Aai jaai jaai!"  :)

Anyway, seems like I'll have to take some pics of my cassette collection too. Fond memories. I think that around 85% or so of my cassettes are TDK SA, SA-X and quite a few TDK SF. Sony also had some decent chrome dioxide cassettes. Maxell metals were great too. I have quite a few BASF cassettes, but they suffered from a "sensitivity" problem, for want of a better term. Recordings made at let's say 0 dB on the VU meters played back at a much lower level with some of those. The TDK's did not have the issue.

I also had the most beautiful little portable Aiwa cassette player (Competition for the Sony "Walkman"). Not much bigger than a cassette case, Dolby NR, autoreverse, the works!  ;D
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« Reply #48 on: July 01, 2010, 02:20:08 pm »
Great posts prompting some really nostalgic feelings: the kit mentioned and some pics does take one
back a while

I think the golden era really was in the 80's and early 90's for most SA folks who enjoy this hobby. The expos and regular gatherings at specialists shops, the vibrant second hand market and also the free trading of tweaks was good back then. These days you need to pay for everything and every second person is an expert of sorts offering services at a fee.

In the western cape the doyens of dealers (central and southern suburbs) were undoubtedly Tony Croft of Paul Bothner (recently passed away) and Merton Wasserson of Hamrad, passed on a few years ago and Norman Fogler, Fogler Hi Fi , passed on a few years ago. Knowledgeable, friendly and caring folks who became friends and advisors. Their listening rooms became meeting places to swap stories and tweaks and first and reviews of kit. Newspapers carried supplements for sound and hi fi, dealers put together systems which they found synergised best etc: the Dual CS 505, Nad 3020 and AR18s speakers come to mind. My first real venture into "hi fi" (away from mass market stuff AVAILABLE IN FURNITURE AND DEPT STORES) was a Nad 3020, AR18s speakers and a LUxman PD284 turntable with Goldring cartridge. This formed the core of my upgrade route which continued incrementally from the same dealer I bought the original system.     

We had a Hi Fi club of Cape Town as well. Regular monthly meetings, newsletter, house meetings etc. Good links with real enthusiasts and also access to the latest kit for review at meetings. It fizzled out in the 90's as dealers dissapeared and home theatre started its take over bid with mass market multi channel, dolby ... processors and DVD. Only die hard two chanel friends still meet and have listening sessions.

Kit way too expensive from the few specialist dealers still in existence these days. The vibe and "brotherhood" no longer exists like back then and hence my view of that period as the Golden era. I think one contributor summed it up correctly saying that the golden era was subjective to individuals and their start in the hobby. I feel however it is linked to when it had the biggest mass interest and support. It is home entertainment after all and that aspect has changed a lot and so has the mass appeal and support. These forums still provide a great space for SA enthusiasts and other on line forums for a bigger audience. I think once its in your blood this hobby stays.

My upgrade route has taken me right back to 80's kit and Japanese at that. I remember the anti Japan stance was big in SA and was biased to British in particular. I now run yamaha C4 pre amp and M2 power amp with Yamaha NS 1000 speakers. I use a Linn LP 12 and Yamaha PX3 linear tracker as vinyl sources and Rotel RCD 951 cd player (due for upgrade soon). Just sourced a Yamaha CDX 1100 cd player from same era - it needs repair though. Very happy with the overall sound quality. Very involving and enjoyable music system. Probably another reason why I think 80's - 90's was golden era. Build quality of kit also took a dive after that, except for money no object stuff

Anyway, nuf said and time to listen some more: Sadao Watanabe (resvendous) is waiting on PX3   



 




 

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« Reply #49 on: July 01, 2010, 02:47:36 pm »
In the western cape the doyens of dealers (central and southern suburbs) were undoubtedly Tony Croft of Paul Bothner (recently passed away) and Merton Wasserson of Hamrad, passed on a few years ago and Norman Fogler, Fogler Hi Fi , passed on a few years ago. Knowledgeable, friendly and caring folks who became friends and advisors. Their listening rooms became meeting places to swap stories and tweaks and first and reviews of kit.
Agreed fully. I knew Merton and Norman well, and still have contact with Norman's son. I do think that Mike Gebert from tafelberg needs to be included in that list though.

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My upgrade route has taken me right back to 80's kit and Japanese at that. I remember the anti Japan stance was big in SA and was biased to British in particular. I now run yamaha C4 pre amp and M2 power amp with Yamaha NS 1000 speakers. I use a Linn LP 12 and Yamaha PX3 linear tracker as vinyl sources and Rotel RCD 951 cd player (due for upgrade soon). Just sourced a Yamaha CDX 1100 cd player from same era - it needs repair though. Very happy with the overall sound quality. Very involving and enjoyable music system. Probably another reason why I think 80's - 90's was golden era. Build quality of kit also took a dive after that, except for money no object stuff.

Ooooh - NS1000's... where's that drool smiley? They've always been amazing speakers to me. Unfortunately I've only ever owned NS10's, which I still use daily, and NS100's fro the same era, which I owned for a short while.
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« Reply #50 on: July 01, 2010, 03:13:08 pm »
Merton Wasserson.... what a lovely guy.
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« Reply #51 on: July 01, 2010, 03:16:33 pm »
Merton Wasserson.... what a lovely guy.

Indeed.
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« Reply #52 on: July 01, 2010, 03:27:33 pm »
This post in probably OT concerning the Golden Era of audio/Hi-Fi, but reading through the posts reminded me of Crystal sets.

In 1973 I was in standard 8 and needed a radio and after reading up about it, I got the schematics and bought the components over a period of three months. Assembly was quite simple and after running about 200 feet of "aerial wire" I was up and running and could listen to the Top 20(Springbok Radio) on Friday evenings.

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« Reply #53 on: July 01, 2010, 03:32:51 pm »
Top 20(Springbok Radio) on Friday evenings.

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« Reply #54 on: July 01, 2010, 03:33:18 pm »
Keep your feet on the ground and reach for the stars!- David Gresham. ;D

That one ;D
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« Reply #55 on: July 01, 2010, 03:42:22 pm »
Springbok 4:30 Special...
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« Reply #56 on: July 01, 2010, 03:58:46 pm »
This post in probably OT concerning the Golden Era of audio/Hi-Fi, but reading through the posts reminded me of Crystal sets.

In 1973 I was in standard 8 and needed a radio and after reading up about it, I got the schematics and bought the components over a period of three months. Assembly was quite simple and after running about 200 feet of "aerial wire" I was up and running and could listen to the Top 20(Springbok Radio) on Friday evenings.



Bliksem!! In 1973 I was in Sub A...  :D

But by the 1980's I discovered "hi-fi" when my stepdad bought me a Blaupunkt portable tape; it had one 4" driver and the tape mechanism next to it and a carry handle on top.
I immediately took one of my mother's old bedside tables and drilled a massive amount of holes into the door in order to get the cut-out for the driver to size using one of those egg-beater type drills (in those days jigsaws and routers were things only the rich could afford, if they were available). I ripped open the Blaupunkt and removed the driver, extended the speaker wire and fitted it to the inside of the cabinet. Switched on, and man I had "hi-fi"!!  ;D ;D The bass was amazing!  :D


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« Reply #57 on: July 01, 2010, 04:18:03 pm »
Bliksem!! In 1973 I was in Sub A...  :D

I was in sub B then :)

I remember those drills. Had a lot of fun my dad's. And I used the exact same many-holes method to make cut-outs.
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« Reply #58 on: July 02, 2010, 10:20:16 pm »
Hehe! My first experience was an all-in-one sound system (cannot remember model name) circa 1963. This was a coffin-shaped device(mono) with a speaker or  two and a built-in tuner, amp  and turnatable. Most of the time we had to install a coin above the headshell in order to ensure that the ceramic stylus would not skip. Outfits like Mahlatini and the Mahotela Queens who became popular around 1967 and  Spokes Mashiane (very popular in the black community around 1963 and qa pennywhistle maestro ) were the usual diet. Later, the Everly Brothers, The Seekers , The Troggs, The Monkeys and so on.  My very first sound sytstem and proud possession was a UK-designed Gramaphone by the name of Metro Sound.  I bought this in 1974 and it  was made up of a all-in-one Garrard record player and in-built amplifier and two book-shelf speakers. I celebrated this acquisition by buying my firrst record. This was a 45 single record by Alice Cooper' with the title " I am 18" (Well, i was 18 aslo) .Later, i "upgraded"  to three sets of Tempest sound systems, with different power.sound quality capabilities, until in 1983 when i retained  my Tempest speakers and bought a Nikko NA-790 amplifier. Soon i upgraded to a Pioneer SA608 amplifier, and then to a more poweful Pioneer SA708 amplifier. Six Months later, the Pioneer SA708 amplifier was replaced by a Sony TA-AX5 amp. To my dismay, although this beatiuful amp had the same power rating on paper(65 watts per channel) it was overheating all the time. I later discovered when reading Hifi-news and Record review that when faced with an 4 ohm load, the beaty's output would collapse to only 27 watts at 8 ohms. I remember when we used this amp at a traditional ceremony, it began to cut-out. The older "uncles" became angry with the dj. They assumed that the dj was deliberately switching-off the amp and did not realise that the amp could drive low impedances at a sustained level. I then started to apreciate "musclular" amps. My next amplifier was an Onkyo
A-8015 integrated amplifier. Although this amp was more load-tolerant, it sounded "too clinical". The frequency extremes also sounded to be "rounded-Off". The Onkyo was then replaced with a Pionner SA 7800"non-switching amplifier". This amp was a good amplifier in most repects until the electrolytic capacitors began to leak. It was then replaced by a tank-like Technics, model SU-8600. The Technics could be played at maximum volume for the whole day without cutting out, but was not very musical. In 1987, my ultimate upgrade was a Dual CS505 turntable with Ortofon mm cartridge, Sansui AUG77X amplifier, Marantz  DS990 speakers,Technics SG-8045 Graphic equaliser(before banishing this to hell forever!)
and Pioneer F90 tuner. In between i had two Sharp tassete decks and a Sony turnatabe i can not remember the model names)
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« Reply #59 on: July 02, 2010, 10:59:04 pm »
Oh by the way, it was such an unforgettable experience to  reading promotional brochures, Hifi magazines or  simply go for " window shoping" for brands like Quad 303/404 , Vintage Sansuis, Pioneers, etc knowing that i was too broke to buy a set . It is interesting to note that audio magazines like Audio Video SA, Hifi News and Record review, Hifi For Pleasure, Stereo Review, (even Playboy), Gramaphone would feature tantalising reviews of the 'state of the art sound sysyems".  My "wake up" moment was when a friend played a quad 44/405 amp through 15inch full-range tannoy speakers. The memory is still etched in my brain.
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