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Golden Era of audio/Hi-Fi.
« on: June 05, 2010, 10:15:33 am »
Reading the Castle thread certainly brought back a lot of memories for me.
Someone else mentioned in another thread on what they thought was the golden era of Hi-Fi.

To many of us the decade will change and the love of certain products in terms of visual appeal, name and price will also be different to all of us.
I would perhaps like to encourage the members here to join this discussion and tell us what they consider to be their golden era (bearing in mind that we have age differences, tastes and preferences), so do bear in mind this is not a debate about disagreeing.

To me it has to be the 90's and as I said it was the castle thread that got me started.
I still recall a pair of castle standmounts being reviewed by Gavin Isaacs (I think) at around 1995. They were highly recommended for their price range.
I then recall listening to a pair of Howards and I was totally overwhelmed as a relatively you audiophile back then.

This was an era where you could go from store to store and drool, you could speak to other passionate audiophiles and music lovers.
It was an era where Sonus Faber released the stunning Minuetto's and then decided to bless the "less rich" audiophiles with their incredibly well priced and to this day their beautiful sounding Concertino's.
I recall speakers like the KEF Coda's and the B&W 600 i series. We also had the likes of Boston and then Sonor audio. These all made the audiophile on a tight budget very happy as we could purchase good quality ant affordable prices whilst we aspired to dreams like the B&W Matrix 801's and the bigger Sonus Fabers.
The Sonor Signets were around R 1 300.00 if I recall, what a bargain at that price.
Chario had the Academy 1, where a reviewer even compared them to Sophia Loren.
Martin Logan started making an impact (although most folks didn't have homes big enough to accommodate these monsters)

This was an Era where CD players became ever more popular by the day. Ken Ishiwata blew us away with his 63 KI signature. We got the likes of California Audio Labs (superb players) and the Arcam players were to be found locally.
Audio Alchemy brought us affordable DACS and decoding engines.
Can anyone remember the Musical Fidelity CDT triode cd. player ?
The big boys like Theta and Wadia blew us away with their boisterous size and cost. I drooled to my toes over these units (I would still like to own a Wadia)
Teac delivered the huge and incredible VRDS units.
Some of these big units were so stunning that to this day they give me goosebumps when I look at some pictures.

On the amplifier side names like Conrad Johnson became a common term though most of could not afford them.
We had the likes of Krell and those big Classe pre-amps and of course the boisterous Mark and Levinson's.
Can anyone remember the beautiful Sonus Faber Musica amplifier.
Seperates were too expensive for most of us, but we had superb intergarted amps to our disposal form the likes of Copland, Harman Kardon,Arcam, Cambridge Audio and Sherwood, just to name a few.
Nad and Rotel became as synonymous with audio as Hoover is with vacuum cleaners.
I can picture Schalk from Valve Audio loading his heavy Black Widow in a crate to Deon Schoeman for a review, the review had such an impact that the Black Widow has become one of those power amps that many aspire to.

This was an era where Audio and Video magazine did their reviews with a list of software used for the reviews.
I recall how we used to go on a hunt to look for these LP's and CD's.
Mary Black-Babes in the wood, Jazz at the Pawnshop, Roger Water-Amused to death, Windam Hill-Various artists just to name a few.
We had audio shows at Sandton and you could spend the entire day going from room to room and listen and drool.
How I remember the Sonus Faber Stradivari's and the B&W Nautilus.............awesome stuff.
We had the Bedini and also discwashers  ;D

Then on the analogue side Wilson Benesch and Roksan delivered awesome TT's.
The Linn LP 12 was an object of lust form most.
ARA from SME provided some of the most beautiful tone arms.
The VDH Grasshopper sold for something like 3 500 pounds sterling in 1995.
Pink Triangle had many an audiophile smiling.

Lastly to me I believe that vinyl is now in it's golden era.
Not in the volumes sold but in terms of the quality.
Records are better recorded, the mastering with people like Stan Ricker and others enables us to get the best from an album
People are buying esoteric Cartridges from the like of Koetsu, Benz, Zyx, Clearaudio and Shelter more than in the previous era of vinyl.
At home we have the Blue Angel Mantis, how is that for an incredible resurgence of vinyl as a super achievement.
Static, and snap crackle and pop is a thing of the past and the phonostages at our disposal is too vast to even choose from,

Thanks for letting me share.

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Re: Golden Era of audio/Hi-Fi.
« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2010, 07:26:34 am »
Excellent post!

My "Era" goes back a bit further, the early 80's to be precise. Even then the equipment I drooled over was mostly entry-level.

What comes to mind is the NAD 3020, AR38's and to me the highlight was some Aiwa tapedeck and a Technics TT(can't remember the model)

A favourite pass time was to go from one hifi shop to the other where salesmen were knowledgeable and did not mind to let you listen to equipment although they knew you could not afford it.
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« Reply #2 on: June 07, 2010, 07:41:58 am »
Most of my Hi-Fi is mid to late 90's, second hand Arcam stuff I got for a good price (R2500 for AMP + TUNER + CD PLAYER)... Not bad going... I have listened to some newer gear and the improvements are there. Just not drastically there. The same setup (as in slotting into the same pricing level) would cost about 15k new...

Going older is my vinyl setup... The oldest being my TD124 (the original brochure I have quoted £34) from about 1961 to an early 70's TD150 right to the newer late 90's TD190... The carts are Old School Shure and AT.

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Times have changed... If you not spending big tom then the sales guy is loath to set anything up for you... Eventually he does and pops in a scratched copied disc of some boef-chee/boef-chee gansta rappa... Drives the amp into clipping turns it down and looks at you with those - 'so what-do-ya think' eyes.... mmmmmmmmmmmm  ::) - I think you should be selling freeflow exhausts....

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Re: Golden Era of audio/Hi-Fi.
« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2010, 09:12:16 am »
Times have changed... If you not spending big tom then the sales guy is loath to set anything up for you... Eventually he does and pops in a scratched copied disc of some boef-chee/boef-chee gansta rappa... Drives the amp into clipping turns it down and looks at you with those - 'so what-do-ya think' eyes.... mmmmmmmmmmmm  ::) - I think you should be selling freeflow exhausts....

LOL!

My "Era" goes back a bit further, the early 80's to be precise. Even then the equipment I drooled over was mostly entry-level.
What comes to mind is the NAD 3020, AR38's and to me the highlight was some Aiwa tapedeck and a Technics TT(can't remember the model)
A favourite pass time was to go from one hifi shop to the other where salesmen were knowledgeable and did not mind to let you listen to equipment although they knew you could not afford it.

Yeah, Abe. Same here. I used to collect hifi posters... Sansui SuperCompo, Technics, etc., to stick on my bedroom wall.
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Re: Golden Era of audio/Hi-Fi.
« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2010, 09:21:26 am »
LOL!

Yeah, Abe. Same here. I used to collect hifi posters... Sansui SuperCompo, Technics, etc., to stick on my bedroom wall.

Same here! I love 80's hifi kit.

That Aiwa deck was probably the AD-F270. I actually still own one of those.
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« Reply #5 on: June 07, 2010, 09:24:02 am »

TDL Speakers.
I had a pair of 202's and always wanted the RTL's or Studio series, but could not afford those way-back-when.  :'(
When I finally could, the company closed their doors.  ???

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Re: Golden Era of audio/Hi-Fi.
« Reply #6 on: June 07, 2010, 11:29:45 am »
I quite enjoyed from an aesthetics appeal some of the Pioneer stuff in the 80's and I was besotted with the Sansui stuff  :-[
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Re: Golden Era of audio/Hi-Fi.
« Reply #7 on: June 07, 2010, 02:10:18 pm »
my experience is a mixed one with new and old. when i started drooling over hifi was back in the late 80's, when my uncle had a Tempest all in one LP and Tape box with big separate speakers. the hi-fi used to play intil the late hour of the night till the early morning. i was young then and still in primary school so it was the best thing since a toyota corolla. this was when the saying "everything keeps going right toyota" slogan ment something. It wasnt until the all in one cd and tape miniature hi-fi set ups bacame the norm, i liked one panasonic set up which at the time was the best compared to my uncles Tempest all in one hi-fi, it had to be the best it had CD and CD the was the thing to have then. when i started having some sense I started drooling over 80's silver facia pioneer separates. dont ask me about model numbers, then if it had the pioneer logo on it it had to be good. when i actualy started showing an interest in hi-fi and music i was in early high school, early nineties. i started learning about the nad's, kenwood and the marantz of this world. i was toung tied for a long time trying to pronounce marantz. then these brand names where dreams as i was in high school and could not buy any of them except sneek a listen at a friends place. Plus the nineties according to me was the golden era of Casset tapes and decks i used to bug this one friend of mine to record stuff from CD to tape. then this process was called dubbing. ahhhh those were the years when things were so simple. the only thing we had to steer away from where the cheap "International 60" empty tapes that always sounded horrible after recording on them. In the late nineties i got introduced to Paradigm studio monitors i was blown away, everything i knew about speakers before that moment had changed forever. It was then when i got introduce to Sherwood, Carlifornia labs, Infinity, Proton, Yamaha, Jamo, Harman Kardon, Celestion. this was when receivers had just become part of my knowledge base. before now all i knew was that you bought a stereo amp and voala music happened, some where along the line a cd player had to be introduced how i didnt know. To cut a long story short, i started then to frequent the second hand shops like cash converters, then you got the good stuff for a real bargain. my frst set up was a tiny sony stereo integrated amp with a wood surround, a sansui graphic equaliser, technics tape deck and unknown outdoor speakers with steal surrounnds and a kenwood tuner, works still today, since then my set has gone through many changes, TEAC Amp/Speakers/CD player, Technics CD player, JVC DVD player(champagne colour), Poneer DVD (piece of crapp *%$@*), Sony speakers/Receiver/DVD (most reliable CD/DVD player i ever bought from Cash Converters still got it today) Onkyo Receiver Sansui surround speakers and the list goes on. My first decent speaker purchase compared to everything else i had before was in the shape of the Polk Audio Monitor 40's (bookshelfs) back then i didnt know speakers stood on stands and there after where the B&W 602 S3's nearly got the 300 series instead good thing i didnt. so actually i have had a small piece of everything, 80's/90's/2000's and until. i eventualy settled on rotel stuff.
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Re: Golden Era of audio/Hi-Fi.
« Reply #8 on: June 07, 2010, 03:13:44 pm »
I like many started in the early 80's with hifi,Nad 3020B still using it today,nad turntable still works but retired,AR speakers not sure of model they are staring at me right now and get used every day,marantz tapedeck,then Technics CD player also still spinning tunes,I have recently picked up an old Marantz amp PM 310 case is rusted through in places but still plays ,Technics SU Amp,Pioneer A4 amp and more i am dying to buy a brand new amp,and cd player But hmmmmmmmmmmmm do i need it also going digital route with pc who knows,I also have 3 x home theater Amps 5.1,7.1 & 7.1
maybe i should start a shop,

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Re: Golden Era of audio/Hi-Fi.
« Reply #9 on: June 07, 2010, 03:14:58 pm »
The 80's and 90's come to mind and the salesmen were quite good and knowledgable.  Now I agree with the previous reply, some youngster pops in a copied CD and it is all about bass, I was once told "that because this is real wood veneer on the cabinet, it gives better sound"  These shops don't even have proper demo rooms and they want you to fork out your money with out a test drive or listening cession.

JPW's come to mind and I am still building my stereo up around late 90's equipment AVI preamp, AVI monblocs and Marants KI 63 - need some speakers - what speakers defined the 90's?

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Re: Golden Era of audio/Hi-Fi.
« Reply #10 on: June 07, 2010, 03:19:06 pm »
need some speakers - what speakers defined the 90's?

I'd say a good pair of AR's
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Re: Golden Era of audio/Hi-Fi.
« Reply #11 on: June 07, 2010, 03:38:30 pm »
JPW's come to mind and I am still building my stereo up around late 90's equipment AVI preamp, AVI monblocs and Marants KI 63 - need some speakers - what speakers defined the 90's?

I have 2 sets of JPWs. A set of Mini Monitors that do duty as surrounds, and a slightly bigger set (the ones with the same drivers as the Morduant-Short MS10s) used on a Pioneer Rondo 3000.
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Re: Golden Era of audio/Hi-Fi.
« Reply #12 on: June 07, 2010, 04:26:07 pm »
Lekker thread! ;D I had a similarly hi-fi inclined school friend and as teens we used to drive retailers mad - collecting pamphlets to drool over later. Most of the kit I had as a youngster was begged for / donated. I also messed around with ancient donated valve stuff. My parents never had "proper" hi-fi - the Sharp all-in-one was a disaster, especially turntable-wise. Teeth-grinding distortion.  :o

Tape decks were "in" then. I had a couple of Aiwa machines (great value!) and later a borrowed Sony. I bought stacks of TDK SA and SA-X cassettes and took much care in recording from vinyl (Technics, Pioneer or Kenwood TTs). A much older friend had a lovely Denon tape deck and we were rather envious. If you knew who Nakamichi was, you were considered an expert  :) I also had to do emergency repairs to the kit of friends' parents more than once after overenthusiastic use at garage parties.  Final stage trannies, fuses (if I was lucky) and speaker drive units (very often) ;D We later DJ'ed at garage and hostel / student res parties and I built our first mixer using 741 op-amps  8)

My first CD player was a Philips, I had a very old Kenwood amp and some entry-level Sennheisers. The first new amp I could afford was a NAD 304.

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Re: Golden Era of audio/Hi-Fi.
« Reply #13 on: June 07, 2010, 06:41:29 pm »
We later DJ'ed at garage and hostel / student res parties and I built our first mixer using 741 op-amps  8)

Hehe - same here! In fact, I still own my first home-built mixer, and it's working great to this day. Those op-amp-based mixers, if properly constructed, had pretty decent sound quality too... 8)
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Re: Golden Era of audio/Hi-Fi.
« Reply #14 on: June 08, 2010, 08:06:16 am »
used on a Pioneer Rondo 3000.

Oh my goodness, I remember that as well! A friend had one, its the all-in-one jobbie isn't it?
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