I had a pair of these, bought them two years ago for R250, listened to them for 6 months (and only to them). After six months of happy listenings, I sold them to a friens for R180 and got me a set HD515's. The difference was amazing, except that I sometimes miss the isolation of the HD202's, they can almost double as ear-protection. Anyway, I think normal retail on them(HD202) is over R300 nowadays.