Canvas Sound Absorption

[Dolby]

Do we have those locally at all?

I tried to check Google, but it seems most are overseas :/ I have terribly harsh sound in my new place - to the point I thought something was broken. However it's purely the fact that I have nothing on the walls, there's no carpets, no curtains ... nothing.

So I'm thinking of art covered canvas like they have overseas ... but not sure of either price or availability?

Thanks!

[mahleu]

I have a supplier in Durban, PM if interested.

[VK]

Try the sugar cubes as per the link below.
http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/acousticsystem4/sugar.html

You will be amazed at what they can do. You can make them yourself as well and won’t cost you much, just a little effort. Try and use the hardest wood available. Indian rosewood will be difficult to obtain locally, but normal Rosewood will also work. You can paint them the colour of the wall as well, so it won’t look too ugly

[mahleu]

If you have sizes in mind I can get some prices for you. I've only used them for plain photo canvasses before.

[Dolby]

Thanks VK - have you used them at all?

I know acoustics are a black art, but they do look a little small

mahleu - I'd be looking .5m x 5m and 1.5m x 1m ... just roughly!

[VK]

Yep. I use them in many different rooms with great success. They are extremely powerful and yield great rewards if you spend enough time setting them up. You won’t be disappointed 

[Dolby]

Thanks ... I'll search a little more.

I'm just curious - Is a bass trap the same as what I'm doing, just another way of doing things?

[WaterHond]

Yep. I use them in many different rooms with great success. They are extremely powerful and yield great rewards if you spend enough time setting them up. You won't be disappointed 

Ooh snake oil and black magic! - I'm sorry but there's not a chance in hell (or heaven ) that this stuff works. I defy anybody to explain to me in scientific (acoustics) terms how this works - actually, don't even bother. This kind of thing makes me boiling mad as it is criminal deception of the unwary!
Any person that "hears" anything different using these is just subject to the placebo effect.

There's also a marked rise on the internet where these "word of mouth" postings and pseudo reviews are used as marketing tools for cr@p (not saying this is necessarily one of them) and are sometimes actually part of marketing campaigns.
I'm sorry VK but I just don't (and won't) buy it!! There are plenty of well researched and scientifically verifyable ways to improve acoustics, but this is not one of them!

[WaterHond]

From the 6Moons financial disclosure page:

Marja Vanderloo & Henk Boot: Marja & Henk are IT specialists who maintain computer systems for large corporate clients. They also contribute free and paid-for audio reviews to Dutch print and on-line publications.

[Hi-Phibian]

Reviewers not allowed to get paid by the publication they write for?
That is how I read it. Being paid by the manufacturer or their agent is a different matter.

[Blues]

the one thing that's even worse than falling for 'snake-oil' is when ppl. know all about it without even bother to try it.
I made myself a bunch of these sugar cubes quiet a few years ago, since I like to try stuff before forming an opinion about it, even when sceptical. same thing with cables btw.
at the time they didn't do anything noticeable, but it was a huge room, and I have tons of diffusers, absorbers and bass traps, which helped a lot.
then on our current place I tried to set up my system in a rondavel (5m dia), which predictably sounded awful. my conventional treatments made things a little better, but still far from good. as a last try, and without much hope, I dug out the old sugar cubes, and I could not believe how much they improved the sound. my personal theory is that they somehow influence the pressure of the sound/reflections, which would explain why they had more impact in the smaller room.

[VK]

Ooh snake oil and black magic! - I'm sorry but there's not a chance in hell (or heaven ) that this stuff works. I defy anybody to explain to me in scientific (acoustics) terms how this works - actually, don't even bother. This kind of thing makes me boiling mad as it is criminal deception of the unwary!
Any person that "hears" anything different using these is just subject to the placebo effect.

There's also a marked rise on the internet where these "word of mouth" postings and pseudo reviews are used as marketing tools for cr@p (not saying this is necessarily one of them) and are sometimes actually part of marketing campaigns.
I'm sorry VK but I just don't (and won't) buy it!! There are plenty of well researched and scientifically verifyable ways to improve acoustics, but this is not one of them!

Each to their own.
I thought this would open up a can of worms hence I suggested try DIY instead of making a purchase. That way, one can’t slam something they haven’t tried. Just a thought….

[Music_Lover]

Grant,

I've also been researching this topic and I've found these guys http://www.genesisacoustics.co.za/productdetails.php?id=100009

I have no idea of the pricing though.

Vis.

[Dolby]

Hi Vis,

Perfect!

Exactly what I was looking at initially!

I'll mail them tonight and get a price!

Thanks!

[WaterHond]

I lived through Peter Belt and his voodoo in the 80's - where are his wonderful inexplicable tweaks now - but by all means if it works for you....

http://www.stereophile.com/asweseeit/110/index.html

Here's a pic of the 6 moons "reviewers" - wouln't be surprised if they did psychic healing and Tarot card reading on the side as well.



Paid for articles are called "Advertorials" - ads that look like genuine articles. On 6Moons they try to cover their arses by repeated "disclosure" which serves the purpose of protecting them from legal action and also to make you believe that they're oh, so very honest and upfront - classic! Not saying they're not (there's my arse cover!), but it does make me wonder!

No other publication, paper or web finds it neccesary to have this at the very top of every page: "This review page is supported in part by the sponsors whose ad banners are displayed below"
And this at the very top of every "review": Financial Interests: click here

Look I am fine with people believing all kinds of stuff but always find it totally amazing how easy it is apparently to manipulate people's perceptions by awakening some , even illogical expectations. Guess I'm just not very suggestible - just call me Spock...