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Spikes, door stoppers or something else for speaker stand base?
« on: January 15, 2012, 02:15:13 pm »
What would recommend to place underneath a speaker stand.  Many folks enjoy spikes for their grip, and I know they don't always gell with wood/tile floors unless you use some type of disc.

What alternatives are there that are cheap and DIY-able?  I've thought of ordinary door stoppers.  Or making small wood feet, about 20mm think and about 50mm x 50mm.  These wood feet can be attached by fisrt placing pieces of rubber between them and the stands.  The rubber would be about 8mm thick.

The stand i'm making will be about 600mm high and weigh about 12kg.  The speaker is also about 9kg, so that's a total weight of about 21kg, which is a pretty decent weight.

Any suggestions or alternatives?  See the article below to also provide guidance.

http://www.audioholics.com/education/loudspeaker-basics/speaker-spikes-and-cones-2013-what2019s-the-point

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Re: Spikes, door stoppers or something else for speaker stand base?
« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2012, 03:04:28 pm »
Unless your speakers have spikes I'd add spikes to ensure you're able to adjust the setup to ensure your tweeters are on-axis i.e. both pointed at the same height. If your floor's uneven you'll need a way to compensate. Get the spikes and discs from JimGore.
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Re: Spikes, door stoppers or something else for speaker stand base?
« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2012, 05:57:06 pm »
The speaker stands will be built so that the speakers sit at the correct height.  The question is, are spikes necessary, or could I just make wooden feet about 50mm x 50mm and place them under the stands?  I'd make 4 feet per stand.  It'd work out cheaper.  Cost ain't the major issue.  I'm just wondering if even the humlble doorstopper would even do the trick, as in the article whose link I posted

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Re: Spikes, door stoppers or something else for speaker stand base?
« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2012, 07:07:28 pm »
I'd go with adjustable feet.
If its going to stand on a tile/wood floor it doesn't necessarily have to be spikes.

If the base of your stands your building are wood you could use threaded insert for wood and insert them from the bottom.
Then use some longish cap-screws through a hole in the base through the threaded insert onto your wooden feet.
This gives you the adjustment to level the stands out.
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Re: Spikes, door stoppers or something else for speaker stand base?
« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2012, 07:16:22 pm »
I had my spiked speakers, which are pretty freakin' heavy, on spikes with discs in my TV room for a week or 2. All good and well, but because the contact surface is slippery and small, and the floor laminated, you're barely touching the speaker or it skids off. I'd go for something with rubber to grip.
At the moment the spikes are pearcing the lounge/listening room's carpet, which is ideal. But not while your setting up. ;)
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Re: Spikes, door stoppers or something else for speaker stand base?
« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2012, 07:35:56 pm »
Main issue is simply: do you think there'll be any difference in sound quality by using the wood feet I described or doorstoppers, instead of spikes. 

I'm not really concerned with damage to floor since it's carpeted.

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Re: Spikes, door stoppers or something else for speaker stand base?
« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2012, 08:04:20 pm »
I think there is a lot of misunderstanding between isolating from vibes and actually wanting to couple and sink.

-Consider "soundcare superspikes" or these http://www.cold-ray.com/products/cold_ray_solutions_3/
Bare metal discs don't work.

-Use large cap screws with the cap pointing to floor and epoxy a ball bearing in to the cap contacting the floor.

-Try a large heavy anchor like a slate slab or tile (I like slate more than granite and marble, it rings less) and place the slate on some rubber washers/feet/door stops to the floor.. Then have spikes under the stand on to the slate. The anchor will be too heavy for the speaker energy to rock it back and forth and you provide a sink for the vibrations.


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Re: Spikes, door stoppers or something else for speaker stand base?
« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2012, 08:29:57 pm »
-Use large cap screws with the cap pointing to floor and epoxy a ball bearing in to the cap contacting the floor.

Great idea, and a cheap alternative that won't damage floors as easily as spikes

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Re: Spikes, door stoppers or something else for speaker stand base?
« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2012, 09:08:16 pm »
I have 6 of these - soundcare superspikes:

http://www.soundcare.no/

I could do a triangular-based stand and use 3 per stand.  Any opinions?

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Re: Spikes, door stoppers or something else for speaker stand base?
« Reply #9 on: January 15, 2012, 09:14:04 pm »
I have 6 of these - soundcare superspikes:

http://www.soundcare.no/

I could do a triangular-based stand and use 3 per stand.  Any opinions?

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Re: Spikes, door stoppers or something else for speaker stand base?
« Reply #10 on: January 15, 2012, 09:19:57 pm »
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Actually, no, keep the bases square or rectangular but use 3 spikes. stands with triangular bases are tipped over too easily anless they are MUCH larger then the speaker base.


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Re: Spikes, door stoppers or something else for speaker stand base?
« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2012, 05:07:04 pm »
I'm going to have 4 wood feet made.  Round, 70mm in diameter, with a bull-nose edge.  Then get 20/25mm metal balls, countersink them so that they portrude 15mm, and fix them with expoxy as suggested by Hi-Phibian.  I think that's the most carpet-friendly solution.  The metal balls cost R5/R6 and will be the cheapest alternative.  They will probably not show under the base, but that's great.

Still no opinions about using door stoppers?

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Re: Spikes, door stoppers or something else for speaker stand base?
« Reply #13 on: January 18, 2012, 05:26:40 pm »
I read your op as being needed for a tile floor. On carpet IMO only spikes work. The balls will work on a hard surface. With carpet  you need to pierce the carpet to get rigid contact below on the actual floor.

If you dont want to pierce the carpet try the slab anchor idea but they will flatten the carpet "pile".

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Re: Spikes, door stoppers or something else for speaker stand base?
« Reply #14 on: January 18, 2012, 06:02:34 pm »
Noted.  Do you not think that if the total weight of one speaker and one stand together is about 20kg, that that will be heavy enough to anchor?

Otherwise it's spikes.  Any ideas of how to make homemade alternatives to spikes, i.e. home-made spikes?  I have seen thick screws screwed through the base, from the top, that portrude about 10mm past the bottom