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AlleyCat

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Mundorf, Clarity and Solen Caps
« on: January 04, 2012, 02:46:43 pm »
I am considering replacing my caps in my B&W N802 speakers, and have been given the advice to only tweak only the tops and mids, and Solen or Clarity's to be used for the former, and Mundorf's for the latter. Am I on the right path and secondly, are the any other caps I should consider beyond those mentioned above?Thanks for all those whom will respond.

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Re: Mundorf, Clarity and Solen Caps
« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2012, 02:48:35 pm »
I also need to know where I could find Clarity, Mundorf and Solen caps. Many thanks.

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Re: Mundorf, Clarity and Solen Caps
« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2012, 02:55:43 pm »
I know Ian / JimGore stocks some of them, I'm sure some other members also have, otherwise you can import them.

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Re: Mundorf, Clarity and Solen Caps
« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2012, 03:31:08 pm »
Ian stocks the Solen and Clarity caps AFAIK, but his stock is limited...

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Re: Mundorf, Clarity and Solen Caps
« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2012, 04:40:33 pm »
I have Solen and ClarityCap caps in stock - most of the common sized ones.  If there is a need for an *odd* value then this can usually be made up from other sizes.

Mundorf - I only have these in bypass caps.

PM me the sizes you need & let's see.

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Re: Mundorf, Clarity and Solen Caps
« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2012, 05:56:55 pm »
My N802’s have the following:

LF : R47 50W Resistors; 150Uf 100V Electrolytic caps; 3u3 250v polypropylene caps; 2.5Mh inductor; 1mh inductor
MF : 3R3 50W Resistors; 47Uf 250v, 3u3 250v polypropylene caps, 1Mh & 1.7 Mh inductors, air core 0.9wire
HF : 3R3 50W Resistors, 6Uf 630v & 20uF 250 propylene caps and 0.077nh air core 0.71 wire inductor.

Thanks Ian and also for time you gave me today, enjoyed the talk. Allan

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Re: Mundorf, Clarity and Solen Caps
« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2012, 08:14:21 pm »
I've heard before that age can affect caps, but those were mostly stuff that's fom say the 70's. Why do you want to replace the entire xo?
Is there even any sense in replacing resistors and inductors?
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Re: Mundorf, Clarity and Solen Caps
« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2012, 08:47:40 pm »
what caps do you have currently in the 802. i know the later models have mundorf caps already, solen and clarity will be a down grade. only upgrade with better mundorfs . silver and oil or silver and gold and oil
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Re: Mundorf, Clarity and Solen Caps
« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2012, 11:23:57 pm »
From experience with voicing ( :) ) I'd just advise that you shouldN't expect a night and day difference with cap upgrades so be sure you want to try it.

The differences are there but subtle. And you right mostly for the treble and ya maybe mid as well.
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Re: Mundorf, Clarity and Solen Caps
« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2012, 08:38:22 am »
From experience with voicing ( :) ) I'd just advise that you shouldN't expect a night and day difference with cap upgrades so be sure you want to try it.

The differences are there but subtle.

I would expect the same.

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Re: Mundorf, Clarity and Solen Caps
« Reply #10 on: January 05, 2012, 08:43:24 am »
I would expect the same.

@ AlleyCat: are you confident that your room acoustics are optimal? You may get a better return on your efforts in this area.

Definitely, with room treatment its like day and night everything improves.
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Re: Mundorf, Clarity and Solen Caps
« Reply #11 on: January 05, 2012, 09:36:52 am »
From experience with voicing ( :) ) I'd just advise that you shouldN't expect a night and day difference with cap upgrades so be sure you want to try it.

The differences are there but subtle. And you right mostly for the treble and ya maybe mid as well.

I think this actually depends on the system resolution and the amount of caps etc in the path.
Once you get down to only a few or one in the signal path (wherever that starts ends or leads to) the last caps can and have profound influence. If you have 10 caps in the chain between say dac chip outputs and tweeter, changing one cap will have less effect.

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Re: Mundorf, Clarity and Solen Caps
« Reply #12 on: January 05, 2012, 09:47:09 am »
I would also agree with Rudi. Only consider caps with substantially better street cred then what is in there. Comparing Solen, Sonicap, Clarity cap Kimber, etc will only drive you mad. Add to this that these all require substantial break in you may just have yourself going in circles forever.

You may consider V Caps as a high quality alternative to the above mentioned. IMO very good but different to Mundorf.

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Re: Mundorf, Clarity and Solen Caps
« Reply #13 on: January 05, 2012, 10:36:21 am »
PM sent.

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Re: Mundorf, Clarity and Solen Caps
« Reply #14 on: January 05, 2012, 06:54:40 pm »
Thanks to all who replied, I enjoyed each and every response. Still on holiday and was up the mountain hiking and enjoying my photography when the majority of the comments were made. Here's some observations, in random order: The caps suggested/recommended was from a friend who has years of proven experience in changing them. He currently has one of the Focal JM LABS Utopia speakers, amongst many other high end "toys". The list I supplied was from the wonderful B&W Support Group's USA website that has all the service manuals on B&W,Classe and Rotel, and tons more useful information for owners of these products. I have no experience on changing caps in speakers.. and thefore asked the questions. By looking at the B&W information it could be assumed that building the separate boards would be easier, as suggested by Rodney, but I thought I would go the easier route by thinking of changing caps first. Lastly, I have a very well treated room, built largely myself, with I feel the correct amount of "sound"materials, including floors and walls. I have built my own acoustic /bass panels based on the Ethan Winer Designs and various friends, some Forum members, have liked what they heard. Now, I am thinking of trying to milk out of my aging (?) speakers an improvement(if that is possible). May the inputs continue gentlemen, thanks again.