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Letter section on AVSA - Dead?
« on: February 07, 2008, 12:49:27 pm »
Is the letter section on AVSA now completely dead?  ???

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Re: Letter section on AVSA - Dead?
« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2008, 12:51:18 pm »
Hopefully. That was (by a looooonnnngggg shot), the most pointless and useless part of AVSA.

(I'm referring specifically to the 'right of reply' column.)

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Re: Letter section on AVSA - Dead?
« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2008, 12:57:31 pm »
Is the letter section on AVSA now completely dead?  ???

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Yes, it's being replaced by feedback from questions and threads that appear here in the forum. No-one really writes letters anymore, it seems. We were struggling to fill it each month, and a lot of questions received had to do with system/product advice, which is better dealt with here.  As RR points out, we had already stopped right to reply several months back, as it was, to a certain extent being used more as free advertising space by certain people than as genuine feedback on a specific review.
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Re: Letter section on AVSA - Dead?
« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2008, 01:27:24 pm »
Should you not then have link/url to this forum in its place? I feel that you should do this every issue. I could not find it in the last issue.
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Re: Letter section on AVSA - Dead?
« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2008, 01:33:42 pm »
Should you not then have link/url to this forum in its place? I feel that you should do this every issue. I could not find it in the last issue.

Look in the November and Dec/Jan issue and you will see that the Forum address is clearly mentioned. It seems a glitch in the system led to the Forum page being left out in the Feb issue.

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« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2008, 02:31:02 pm »
Look in the November and Dec/Jan issue and you will see that the Forum address is clearly mentioned. It seems a glitch in the system led to the Forum page being left out in the Feb issue.



There were also some extracts from discussions on the forum in the Dec/Jan issue.
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Re: Letter section on AVSA - Dead?
« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2008, 03:33:55 pm »
There were also some extracts from discussions on the forum in the Dec/Jan issue.

I like that a lot... should be a permanent feature. If not a quote, then an editorial comment.
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Re: Letter section on AVSA - Dead?
« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2008, 06:01:32 pm »
Hi GD,

Yes, it's being replaced by feedback from questions and threads that appear here in the forum. No-one really writes letters anymore, it seems. We were struggling to fill it each month, and a lot of questions received had to do with system/product advice, which is better dealt with here.  As RR points out, we had already stopped right to reply several months back, as it was, to a certain extent being used more as free advertising space by certain people than as genuine feedback on a specific review.

IMO this is a positive development for the magazine, to cut the 'free advertising' out. Now the link to this forum in the mag is great, good thinking!!

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Re: Letter section on AVSA - Dead?
« Reply #8 on: February 09, 2008, 04:51:26 pm »
I've been a reader of AVSA since I returned to South Africa from the UK in 1996, but the content mix you now offer makes it scarcely worth bothering. More than half the magazine is given over to reviews (mostly perfunctory) of camcorders, cameras, servers, "laptop speakers" -- come on! -- home "automation" (a monumentally boring subject) and too much home theatre, although I don't mind a few items in that sector.
 
In the February 2008 issue, for example, genuine high fidelity coverage is relegated to six freakin' pages labelled "Stereo"  in the last quarter of the mag. "Technology and Lifestyle", a somewhat all-embracing label, gets 10 pages, and includes such low-fi dreck as MP3 players, microsystems and portable DVD players. You.can.not be serious, as John McEnroe was wont to say.
 
In trying to be all things to all people (with the accent on consumer stuff (lifestyle?) you are satisfying none, as far as I am concerned anyway. Fine reproduction of music, this wonderful pursuit of the remaining few,  appears to be going down the tubes (sorry)..
 
I don't expect a South African Stereophile, obviously, but AVSA would do well to observe that publication's dedicated approach.
 
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Re: Letter section on AVSA - Dead?
« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2008, 03:03:10 pm »
I would want to agree with Dave F. There are magazines covering gadgets, mp-3 players, cell-phones, camara's etc.

Could you guys perhaps try a bit more HiFi? Oh, and I have nothing against featuring home theatre, doesn't need to be stereo only.  ;)
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« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2008, 03:35:21 pm »
Your comments are noted, but I have to point out that we had an almost identical reaction from some readers when we started moving into featuring home theatre several years ago. It was regarded as being the death-knell of AVSA.  ;)   But the simple truth of the matter is that this was the way the industry by large was moving, and we could stay as we were and ultimately become a niche magazine with a circulation of 1000, or we could adapt and grow, while still providing quality content for all our readers. Also, the magazine needed to grow - it's a business after all - and we needed to attract new readers. It would have been financial suicide to ignore the industry trends. So we made the move, showed readers that all tastes were still catered for, and we grew.

Now it's happened again. We cannot stagnate, cannot ignore the fact that the industry is once again changing. And we had the choice of staying where we were or adapting to attract new readers in fields we hadn't featured before, but which were becoming increasingly part of the whole AV field. Pure business sense dictates that one must grow and adapt, or die.

And again, we have the occasional complaint that we're 'diluting' the magazine content, that things aren't as they were. I cannot disagree more - take a look at the November issue for example: 5 reviews on home theatre, 6 on stereo, 2 on AV accessories. Only 5 for New Technology (vs. 13 for 'old' AVSA-type reviews). Then Dec/Jan issue: 5 reviews on home theatre products, 8 reviews on stereo only products, 3 on AV accessories. A mere 5 on new technology (again, vs. 16 of the 'old'-type reviews). And in the above examples I also excluded the cover stories, which were loudspeakers and plasma televisions.

One can hardly say that all of a sardine we're neglecting our home theatre and stereo only readers. What used to be the type of copy from the old-look AVSA remains by far the largest part of magazine content, and we continue to feature some of the most exclusive stereo-only products in the country. But we have to move forwards, and there has to be an acknowledgement that hundreds of thousands of people out in the market place have different ways of listening to their music, of watching video, and we cannot ignore those trends - not as a magazine that prides itself in being the country's foremost audio and video magazine, and one that is always keeping an eye on where the industry is heading.

So far support for the new format has been overwhelmingly positive - from the industry itself as well - and I hope that our readers with more specialised tastes will support us, and will see that we have by no means left them behind: we remain the only magazine in SA for hi-fi enthusiasts to use to see what is going on in the industry.  :)
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« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2008, 05:40:14 pm »
(deleted) So far support for the new format has been overwhelmingly positive - from the industry itself as well (deleted)

I guess that says it all - particularly the keyword "industry", as they pay for the advertising content...

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Re: Letter section on AVSA - Dead?
« Reply #12 on: February 14, 2008, 08:54:24 am »
I guess that says it all - particularly the keyword "industry", as they pay for the advertising content...

Pity...


You've completely missed the point, but...  :-\  If there is no support from the industry, there is no advertising. If there is no advertising, there is no AVSA.
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Re: Letter section on AVSA - Dead?
« Reply #13 on: February 14, 2008, 12:07:41 pm »
You've completely missed the point, but...  :-\  If there is no support from the industry, there is no advertising. If there is no advertising, there is no AVSA.

Guys, this is a factor in business and although we feel we are the "business" of AVSA, the other side of the coin is still that advertising keeps the magazine's price to acceptable levels.

I also get annoyed by the fact that we have to sometimes bite our tongues, but lets give Andrew and the guys some slack.
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Re: Letter section on AVSA - Dead?
« Reply #14 on: February 14, 2008, 06:47:33 pm »
You've completely missed the point, but...  :-\  If there is no support from the industry, there is no advertising. If there is no advertising, there is no AVSA.

Andrew,

I have no problem with advertising and the revenues it brings to enable a publication to survive (and I'm fully aware of the dependency-level that magazines have on advertising income). 

Where I do have a problem is when the "advertisers" start to dictate either 'content' or 'focus'.

Where I would also have a problem is when, in order to grow advertising income from new advertisers, editorial policy shifts and starts to include content that is totally at variance with either the loyal supporting readers or the title of the magazine.

(Of course one could always indulge in yet another name-change - to something like "Audio-Video-Laptop-Photocopier-Fax-Printer-Modem South Africa" and really go out and lassoo some new advertisers...)    ;D ;D ;D

Broadening of a publication's focus virtually forces a dilution of content targeted at the loyal reader base - take it too far, and these readers are likely to look elsewhere.  (Don't me wrong - this is NOT a threat - just an observation on human nature.)

The more targeted the focus of a magazine, the more relevant it is to a target audience.  In the same way, the less targeted the focus of a magazine, the less relevant it is to a target audience, to the point where, eventually, it becomes totally irrelevant and the readership absconds.  Once the circulation drops below a certain level, the advertisers also tend to abscond and the magazine becomes a vague memory...

It would be a great pity if this fate befell AVSA, as the only other local alternatives (and we all know which they are) certainly would not fill the void!