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J.S.

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J.S.'s Garrard 301 Project
« on: June 27, 2011, 04:33:50 pm »
She is cream, she is greasy, and she is very dirty. (Under normal circumstances if I heard this I would interpret it as: She is an ill lass, with poor body hygiene and whose hair knows only grease and not shampoo) However this description in the weird and wonderful world of audio means that it is a later cream Garrard, but with the original GB.
At first glance, it makes one think why you would swop for a Linn? But one day, we'll get there.

Right now first things first; before I allow myself to touch any further her she is getting a serious clean. I do not know what has grown down there in the sub platter area, but whatever it is do not think sunlight is going to clean it off. After many hours with a very light "all purpose cleaner" it is beginning to look more tangible.




Because I wish for this to serve as a reference thread for other people considering a Garrard restoration I shall structure it as a process.

First: before you can take your new acquisition home you need to tighten the transport clamps. In order to do this you need to remove the platter. To remove give it a gentle (yet persuasive) hit with the back of a screwdriver.
With the same screwdriver now tighten the two screws which appear on the right and left of the motor.
When you are home these must be untightened before you can turn the motor on.
At this stagge you can go straight into making a plinth for her although I have started by servicing the unit first.

Although I have owned her for more than two weeks now I still haven't seen her turn. The lack of a plug is the easy part of the fix. A wire travelling from the spark suppresser to the "on-off" block is bracken. I thought considering I needed to replace the wire I should investigate the condition of the spark suppresser at the same time. I removed the suppresser and not to my surprise it was totally blown.

On the block housing the suppresser it states 0.05 uf and .220 ohm. This I hope indicates what is inside the "black box". What does worry me is that it also says 4KV T. Which presumably means tested for 4 KV. The motor is also tested for 1500V so I guess the 4 KV does not seem too unreasonable.  ::)

I have a 0.05 uf 1000V cap lying around. (It says 503K on it and I seem to remember that that was a 0.05 uf cap. I know it isn't a resistor) I still need to find the resistor. Any recommendations for the wattage? I take it that these components are wired in series?

I have also removed the GB and cleaned it using a new rag that I pulled through the bearing removed all the grease. I’ve also used ear buds to clean out the cap and the grease inject shaft. Now what type of grease to use?  :D

My largest complaint thought is the remnants of a dustbug which has become the bain of my life. I still have not been able to remove it. I'm working on it though.
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« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2011, 04:43:22 pm »
keep this URL close if you want to do a 100% restore and make friends with the DON

http://www.perfectsound.co.uk/
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« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2011, 04:53:26 pm »
£8.33 excl. shipping for a spark suppresser? Ludo? I've carefully removed mine. I shall replace the components (which are much smaller because they are modern) and then refit the original red wax covering. It'll be as good as new (well old actually)

This unit has seen so little work that it seems silly to replace what is still practically new.
« Last Edit: June 27, 2011, 04:56:45 pm by J.S. »
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« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2011, 07:02:03 pm »
Hi J.S

I sent you a pic of something I recently found. The maker's name is stated as Supprescraft.

Another thing, if the existing suppressor is totally unserviceable, you will not be able to switch the deck off unless you pull the plug on it. Don't be disheartened by its condition. My own cream grease bearing deck looked much, much worse than yours. Those marks should come off with application of fine rubbing compound used on car paintwork.The product I use around here is Turtle Safe Cut which you can get from auto accessory shops. Or otherwise Sonax liquid polish which has a very fine action which removes blemishes for car paintwork. THe latter product is very good. I've seen it used by dent removing places. Comes in a red squeeze bottle and made in Germany but I think there is a distributor in Johannesburg. Garrard cream paint is rather soft so care should be taken as it is very easy to rub through the paint. Other stuff I use with cleaning Garrards include turpentine and Cleen Green. Also take care with those horny ones on top - two pinned-together pillows will protect them.

All these 'prescriptions' come from a bloke who once broke his own 301 :-[ - and thats's very easy so I'll let on how it happened.

After a week's intensive cleaning, I set the deck up between two low foldup chairs, barely 10" off the ground which was thickly carpeted.

I switched the deck on and let it run for a while. Then my phone rang and as I picked it up, the 301 dropped-down between the two little chairs no further than about 6 or 7 inches, breaking the motor mount ring in two places. THe poor person at the other end of my phoneline must still be wondering why I cursed him....

The motor's inertia must have shifted the 301 off the chair edges :-[ :-[

So there you are. Interesting thread which I look forward to read.

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« Last Edit: June 27, 2011, 07:30:54 pm by mafioso »
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« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2011, 09:57:36 am »
Congratulations and all the best with the restoration project.

I restored my two grey 301's and it was a pleasure to do it with the help of my friends and information on the internet. There are so many information on the net that one must be very careful in selecting the right one. Some general tips.

Use mineral turpentine to clean the metal parts. Be careful with certain detergents.

Do not use isoprophyl alcohol to clean the body part of the grease bearing assembly as this will dissolve its original paint work. Same goes for the rubber mat as it will leave permanent marks on it.

Make yourself a rough plinth out of pressed wood with "long legs" so that you can easily work on it. If you need its mounting template you can contact me. I am in the Pretoria area.

If possible keep the paintwork original even it there are some blemishes and scratch marks as this ensures that it keeps it collector's value. I also have a grease cream one with a dustbug mark on it as yours, that is not yet restored, so it will be interesting for me to see how you find a solution for this problem.

Be careful if you disassemble the drive motor when you want to service it. If possible check the toque of the screws before doing this. It is possible when these screws are not tightened correctly the motor will run very hot.

I will look for the specific grease's name that I used on mine.

I hope that some of this information may help you with the restoration process.

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« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2011, 12:46:01 pm »
Please forgive my ignorance, or lack of artistic recognition, but I have now seen many pics of the Garrard 301 and to it remians the ugliest TT I have ever seen, even the arm shown on one of Mafioso's pics looks like something not out of place in a Radiogram, complete with "turning stylus" for 33/45 and 78s.

It has to be a VERY good turntable if so many swear by it, but those looks, URGH!
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« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2011, 01:11:37 pm »
Please forgive my ignorance, or lack of artistic recognition, but I have now seen many pics of the Garrard 301 and to it remians the ugliest TT I have ever seen, even the arm shown on one of Mafioso's pics looks like something not out of place in a Radiogram, complete with "turning stylus" for 33/45 and 78s.

It has to be a VERY good turntable if so many swear by it, but those looks, URGH!

When you handle (work on and play) a 301 the over-engineering and design become the beauty spots of the table... All that engineering to make sure a 180 gram vinyl turns at exactly 33.3 (or 45 or 78)... The styling can also look great in a nice plinth.

This one looks good to me:



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« Reply #7 on: June 28, 2011, 01:17:23 pm »
Eish Jacques, still looks like the old washing machine my mother used to have in the 70s, even the selector switches look the same ;)

Okay, I will keep quiet now for a few minutes and try not to insult anyone during that period ;D
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« Reply #8 on: June 28, 2011, 01:23:15 pm »
Eish Jacques, still looks like the old washing machine my mother used to have in the 70s, even the selector switches look the same ;)

Okay, I will keep quiet now for a few minutes and try not to insult anyone during that period ;D

ag man some of the ugliest bits are nice to touch ye... you gotto try it ( a 301 that is) one day...



J.S. - gonna follow this one with interest... I never managed to completely remove the dustbug mark off the one I had. Even after quite a bit of polishing...

What are your plinth plans?


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« Reply #9 on: June 28, 2011, 01:26:30 pm »
ag man some of the ugliest bits are nice to touch ye... you gotto try it ( a 301 that is) one day...

Hey, I know that one(not the 301) ;D
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« Reply #10 on: June 28, 2011, 01:33:18 pm »
i suppose tastes differ. i for one quite like it.

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« Reply #11 on: June 28, 2011, 01:42:48 pm »
Yup, also like the 301's looks. Probably nicer than any of the $$$ decks out there - Just needs a bit of inspiration with the plinth. It's in the old school looks, either you like it or prefer more modern(sometimes kitsch) designs.

Wish I could find one somewhere too!
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« Reply #12 on: June 28, 2011, 01:49:52 pm »
That one that dotvibe posted will seriously put a dent in the budget, especially with that Tri-Planar tonearm.

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« Reply #13 on: June 28, 2011, 02:35:20 pm »
Yep, aesthetics... some are just better at it... ;D

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Re: J.S.'s Garrard 301 Project
« Reply #14 on: June 28, 2011, 05:54:44 pm »
Please forgive my ignorance, or lack of artistic recognition, but I have now seen many pics of the Garrard 301 and to it remians the ugliest TT I have ever seen, even the arm shown on one of Mafioso's pics looks like something not out of place in a Radiogram, complete with "turning stylus" for 33/45 and 78s.

It has to be a VERY good turntable if so many swear by it, but those looks, URGH!

So Abe, when last did you clean your glasses?  ;)

The 301 is undoubtedly one of the prettiest turntables ever! Dare I even say "The Handsomest"?  :D

I've always been crazy about them, although never a particul;arly big fan of the 401 which I thought was a bit of a let down.


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