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WaterHond

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One man's junk is another's treasure!
« on: June 17, 2011, 11:17:53 pm »
Showing my boet around the local 2nd hand/ junk shops I happened on an item I've been looking for - an old Anglepoise lamp.
Found a rarity: the very first domestic model, the Terry Anglepoise Model 1227 from prewar 1936 England.
It shows its age with most of the paint having flaked off and some rust, but the genius of a design classic is still there!
The road to restoration - as much as possible including what's left of the flaked paint has to be kept I think(?) and the rust must be gently banished and prevented from coming back.
Anyone with some tips on doing this kind of thing.
Also looking for the bakelite lamp holder with a switch built in, similar to the later brass item that was used to replace it.
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WaterHond

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Re: One man's junk is another's treasure!
« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2011, 11:26:18 pm »
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Re: One man's junk is another's treasure!
« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2011, 07:33:06 am »
Wow! Great find.

Looks like yours is the 'krinkle enamel' version as per the flyer   :)
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Re: One man's junk is another's treasure!
« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2011, 10:55:56 am »
Excellent find! Hope you find a replacement bakelite lampholder but I haven't seen one of those for yonks. If you can still get e brass one with switch, you could always spray it black or the same colour as the rest of the lamp. A warm white CFL will work very nicely as the light source.


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Re: One man's junk is another's treasure!
« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2011, 11:59:49 am »
Very nice find, Waterhond. Today's anglepoise lamps are rubbish compared to yours. You can take it apart completely and sand each part down to bare metal using 3M sanding pads (hard work, I know). Otherwise perhaps some sandblasting but you should be present when this is done. Afterwards all parts can be epoxy coated (I think this is the right term?). I've had some of my wife's airers coated with great results. I have definitely seen some of those bakelite switched lampholders at the local flea market at Milnerton.

The lamp in the pic I got for nothing somewhere. I was also recently given an anglepoise lamp with magnifier by a flea market bloke. It was very rusty and the hood with magnifier and lamp was broken. I have repaired the defects and it's as good as new again.

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Re: One man's junk is another's treasure!
« Reply #5 on: June 18, 2011, 12:16:26 pm »
Have made a start with some steelwool and one of those pads and it works to an extent - must suppress the urge to haul out the power tools! ;D

Keep an eye out for that bakelite light holder please Mafioso - there might be a nice bottle of Overberg's finest in it for you!
This one should be about right for you:

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« Reply #6 on: June 18, 2011, 12:30:27 pm »
I've got one of those. My old faithful illuminator at the workbench. Just one slight difference - mine is equipped with a table screw-clamp. Timeless.
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Re: One man's junk is another's treasure!
« Reply #7 on: June 18, 2011, 02:44:26 pm »
Disassembled, loose paint flakes and rust removed from shade and base - the rest waiting for a de-rusting bath.
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« Reply #8 on: June 18, 2011, 02:50:45 pm »
Good work, W/H. Resist powertools as faarkups happen before you can blink. Rather consider it as a labour of love ;D The only gadget on a slow turning powertool which may work is a brass wirewheel but even here there's a bit of danger as one doesn'y know how soft the metal is under the paint.

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« Reply #9 on: June 21, 2011, 02:26:45 pm »
"Back, after all these years...":
Not so much restored as preserved : cleaned, some de-rusting and a clearcoat.
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Re: One man's junk is another's treasure!
« Reply #10 on: June 21, 2011, 06:00:07 pm »
Nice! What clearcoat did you use... I have the same one I picked up for R20 at a yard sale... The problem mine has is that it 'nods'...

Also, how did you take it apart. Mine looks like it is riveted...
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« Reply #11 on: June 21, 2011, 06:40:35 pm »
Quote from: alternativeroute on June 21, 2011, 06:00:07 pm
Nice! What clearcoat did you use... I have the same one I picked up for R20 at a yard sale... The problem mine has is that it 'nods'...

Also, how did you take it apart. Mine looks like it is riveted...

Thanks - used an acrylic resin spray by Zenith. You'll find that once you undo all the little screws and bolts, it just pulls apart. Take some pics first as it is actually surprisingly complicated to put back together again!

You're lucky with the price you paid, mine was R120 - goes for hundreds of dollars on Ebay. Resist re-spraypainting as that destroys the value.
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« Reply #12 on: June 21, 2011, 06:52:33 pm »
@ Alternativeroute: BTW - you'll see there are extra holes in the upright arms at the base where you can reposition the centre spring to fix the "nods". Also be carefull of thin copper washers at the first bend which are necessary for the friction to keep the joint positioned.
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Re: One man's junk is another's treasure!
« Reply #13 on: June 21, 2011, 07:21:48 pm »
This is lamp... How I know if it is original? I also see that it has a nasty @ss blackboard type paint on it...

Been using it in my garage... As you can see from the pic I motion blurred my impeccably tidy workbench  ;D
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« Reply #14 on: June 21, 2011, 08:03:25 pm »
Quote from: alternativeroute on June 21, 2011, 07:21:48 pm
This is lamp... How I know if it is original? I also see that it has a nasty @ss blackboard type paint on it...

Been using it in my garage... As you can see from the pic I motion blurred my impeccably tidy workbench  ;D

That's definitely an original - you can research it here: http://designmuseum.org/design/anglepoise and http://www.vintageanglepoiselamps.co.uk/anglepoise1227.htm
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